Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Now the GE is done and dusted, and with MP’s returning to Parliament today to begin being sworn in, we’ve locked the GE Thread last night, and you can now use this one for any Westminster related stuff.

Anything Brexit related will be moved to the ongoing Brexit Thread!

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1 year ago
An article on Tv today claimed that the Tory landslide, especially breaking down the red wall, was actually started by May in 2017 and Boris just needed a bit of a push to collapse it completely, the Tory share of the vote only increasing a little, Labour vote dissapearing.

I can't believe how the likes of Pidcock and Lewis think labour should move further away from the centre ground, the gift that just keeps giving.

The Momentum group seem to be relying on the fact that the Labour party are the biggest party in Europe with 500,000 members, but just a little over 200.000 voted for Corbyn and Corbynism, which I think works out at roughly 1 voter in 200 when it comes to an election.

Their arrogance does them no favours either, is it me or can none of these arseholes accept the result of a referendum or election.

Sturgeon lost the independence referendum and the brexit referendum, because she lost the first she can't argue Scotland didn't vote for brexit because it was a UK wide vote and Scotland voted to be part of the UK in the first referendum.

Swinson ex leader of the Liberal Undemocratic Party.


Can l admit to Swinson being my weirs crush of the year?
1 year ago
An article on Tv today claimed that the Tory landslide, especially breaking down the red wall, was actually started by May in 2017 and Boris just needed a bit of a push to collapse it completely, the Tory share of the vote only increasing a little, Labour vote dissapearing.

I can't believe how the likes of Pidcock and Lewis think labour should move further away from the centre ground, the gift that just keeps giving.

The Momentum group seem to be relying on the fact that the Labour party are the biggest party in Europe with 500,000 members, but just a little over 200.000 voted for Corbyn and Corbynism, which I think works out at roughly 1 voter in 200 when it comes to an election.

Their arrogance does them no favours either, is it me or can none of these arseholes accept the result of a referendum or election.

Sturgeon lost the independence referendum and the brexit referendum, because she lost the first she can't argue Scotland didn't vote for brexit because it was a UK wide vote and Scotland voted to be part of the UK in the first referendum.

Swinson ex leader of the Liberal Undemocratic Party.


Can l admit to Swinson being my weirs crush of the year?


She isn't known as 'Giddy Jo Swinson' for nothing.
Surprised no-one has mentioned this - now we have got past xmas and NY - back to reality.

An unwinnable war with Iran that will define the decade only 3 days in!
1 year ago
Too busy discussing the ‘Pansexuality’ of the lass who may be the next Lib Dem Leader...
I think BBC devoted more time to Vegan beliefs!
What a time to be separating from our European neighbours and throwing all our eggs in with Trump!

Will you be heading to the Middle East and fighting the cause Alan?
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1 year ago
I see Emily has got her leadership campaign off to a flying start.

On BBC news, she gave her 10 pennath on the Iran issues and how serious it was for the World. Of course, it was all Boris's fault as when she wrote to him about the Iran problem when he was foreign secretary, he replied by telling her to stop wasting her time reading newspapers. He had her sussed years ago...go the Buffoon !!
1 year ago
Well thats cheered me up. Perhaps she can maybe just start on sorting out the mess she’s made of the NHS, Police, education and transport.
And maybe find out where all the Brexit preparation money has gone.
1 year ago
I'm surprised she hasn't done an Ian Smith and declared UDI, now there's a thought
1 year ago
Well thats cheered me up. Perhaps she can maybe just start on sorting out the mess she’s made of the NHS, Police, education and transport.
And maybe find out where all the Brexit preparation money has gone.


And I suppose England doesn't have a problem with the NHS, Police, education and transport
I'd be happy to give Scotland and especially Northern Ireland independence:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38077948
1 year ago
Brexit will soon have cost the UK more than all of its payments to the EU over the last 47 years put together

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-will-cost-uk-more-than-total-payments-to-eu-2020-1?utm_source=reddit.com&r=US&IR=T&utm_source=reddit.com
1 year ago
Hi Marko

Given you allege the Tories were pursuing a Final Solution strategy on the sick in the last decade, what’s your thoughts on the abuse scandal overseen by the Labour government?What an utter disgrace.

As for wee nippy, she has no ammo-just rhetoric.
1 year ago
I'd be happy to give Scotland and especially Northern Ireland independence:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38077948

Those per capita spending figures are shocking UD, with England receiving less than Scotland, Wales and NI. But if you take the time to dig deeper, for decades London has received the highest per capita spending of all the English regions, despite generating enormous economy of scale. The English regions are the poor relations in the UK when it comes to spending tax income. Is it any wonder that we’re starting to rebel against the status quo?
1 year ago
Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?
1 year ago
It always amuses me when their supporters say that Blair’s New Labour wasnt Labour. Which makes it 41 years since they were in power.
And they still dont get it.
1 year ago
Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?


What particular human rights do you object to prisoners having?
1 year ago
They in my opinion should lose all their rights. They get fed clothed and accommodated at the tax payers expense. If they can't do the time don't do the crime. But you being a bleeding heart liberal are guaranteed to disagree. What rights would you give a prisoner snowflake ?
1 year ago
They in my opinion should lose all their rights. They get fed clothed and accommodated at the tax payers expense. If they can't do the time don't do the crime. But you being a bleeding heart liberal are guaranteed to disagree. What rights would you give a prisoner snowflake ?


So you think we should let prisoners starve to death then? Because that's what "lose all their rights" really means.
1 year ago
I think that criminals should be locked up, but I also think they should be treated humanely. If they literally had no rights, that would mean guards could beat and kill them with impunity, is that something you would like to see? Would your opinion change if you had a relative serving time and they were killed by a prison guard?

As for the snowflake comment I'm going to ignore that as it's clear you're just on the wind up considering you are one of the biggest snowflakes on here, you and Barry The Fantasist
1 year ago
Here's one for you Kessler.
Why should convicted murderers be allowed any human rights?
They took away the human rights of their victims & in a lot of cases they walk free without completing their whole term sentence after conning some daft buggers on a parole board that they are reformed characters.
1 year ago
They in my opinion should lose all their rights. They get fed clothed and accommodated at the tax payers expense. If they can't do the time don't do the crime. But you being a bleeding heart liberal are guaranteed to disagree. What rights would you give a prisoner snowflake ?


So you think we should let prisoners starve to death then? Because that's what "lose all their rights" really means.


You seem to have overlooked the following

They in my opinion should lose all their rights. They get fed clothed and accommodated at the tax payers expense. If they can't do the time don't do the crime. But you being a bleeding heart liberal are guaranteed to disagree. What rights would you give a prisoner snowflake ?


But if he's saying they should lose all their rights, that would include those. So if he wants them to keep those, he doesn't actually want them to lose all their rights?
1 year ago
Here's one for you Kessler.
Why should convicted murderers be allowed any human rights?
They took away the human rights of their victims & in a lot of cases they walk free without completing their whole term sentence after conning some daft buggers on a parole board that they are reformed characters.


Because I think regardless of what people have done, there is a minimum humane standard with which they should be treated. Waltero mentions prisoners being fed and clothed, that only happens because they have rights. If they literally had no rights then there would be no obligation to feed them, prisoners could literally be starved to death or killed by guards with impunity.

I agree with the last bit though. A life sentence should literally mean life, staying in prison until you die. Not a minimum term and then you get released.
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