The Politics Thread

I think that criminals should be locked up, but I also think they should be treated humanely. If they literally had no rights, that would mean guards could beat and kill them with impunity, is that something you would like to see? Would your opinion change if you had a relative serving time and they were killed by a prison guard?

As for the snowflake comment I'm going to ignore that as it's clear you're just on the wind up considering you are one of the biggest snowflakes on here, you and Barry The Fantasist

If you think the current crop of prison officers in most of the privatised jails would be capable of even saying boo to the prisoners ever mind abuse their human rights you clearly know less than nothing about The Prison Service as it is today.

There are only 2 groups of people currently running British prisons and that's the Muslima and the East Europeans discussions are currently underway as to whether keeping them separate or mixing them best serves the management regime.

The exception to this are the High-Security prisons such as Belmarsh currently being featured in the documentary series which thank god are still run by proper prison officers who know how to impose discipline and keep our foreign friends in order.

The whole system is a joke where we still lock people up for the likes of tv licence and council tax evasion and where we keep East Europeans at our expense filling our prisons to serve their sentences when I would rather we had them breaking rocks for a couple of years in such a tough regime that they never want to come back and infect this country ever again before returning them to where they came from where surprise surprise they are usually wanted there as well.

Never had a mention much recently about the anti brexit brigade and their chlorinated chicken scaremongoring bollocks story bla bla..this has well and truly been put to bed last week...amazingly how quiet its been since eh.

Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.

Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?

Using that as a yardstick the toties have only been in power once since 1979, albeit for a lot longer.

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.

Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.

Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).

So regardless of what they have done, you think rapists and paedophiles still deserve to be given food and water? In other words you want them to keep some rights, instead of the prisons just being allowed to starve them to death. That's the point I was making to Waltero, if you removed all of their rights they wouldn't even get food and water.

Ched Evans is a sick and vile individual.

From that, I take it you know him personally then ?

Not only proven to be not guilty of any crime but both his supposed victim and her mother proved to have lied in court Hell if that had been me i.d of had every penny they had [ both sold stories to the press ] and donated it to Charity and the sued the arse off the govt and not just accepted the first compensation amount he was offered.

And for what it's worth from a woman I know who knew him and worked with him for 12 months said you couldn't meet a nicer or more polite lad.

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.

Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).

So regardless of what they have done, you think rapists and paedophiles still deserve to be given food and water? In other words you want them to keep some rights, instead of the prisons just being allowed to starve them to death. That's the point I was making to Waltero, if you removed all of their rights they wouldn't even get food and water.

Ched Evans is a sick and vile individual.

From that, I take it you know him personally then ?

Not only proven to be not guilty of any crime but both his supposed victim and her mother proved to have lied in court Hell if that had been me i.d of had every penny they had [ both sold stories to the press ] and donated it to Charity and the sued the arse off the govt and not just accepted the first compensation amount he was offered.

And for what it's worth from a woman I know who knew him and worked with him for 12 months said you couldn't meet a nicer or more polite lad.

How long till Bonzo throws the fisherman under a bus ?
Answers on a postcard

Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.

The train has left the station.

The appetite for discussing brexit has diminished.

If you are worried about the fishermen try sucking a fishermans friend, calm you down.

The train has left the station.

The appetite for discussing brexit has diminished.

If you are worried about the fishermen try sucking a fishermans friend, calm you down.