Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Now the GE is done and dusted, and with MP’s returning to Parliament today to begin being sworn in, we’ve locked the GE Thread last night, and you can now use this one for any Westminster related stuff.

Anything Brexit related will be moved to the ongoing Brexit Thread!

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1 year ago
I think that criminals should be locked up, but I also think they should be treated humanely. If they literally had no rights, that would mean guards could beat and kill them with impunity, is that something you would like to see? Would your opinion change if you had a relative serving time and they were killed by a prison guard?

As for the snowflake comment I'm going to ignore that as it's clear you're just on the wind up considering you are one of the biggest snowflakes on here, you and Barry The Fantasist


If you think the current crop of prison officers in most of the privatised jails would be capable of even saying boo to the prisoners ever mind abuse their human rights you clearly know less than nothing about The Prison Service as it is today.

There are only 2 groups of people currently running British prisons and that's the Muslima and the East Europeans discussions are currently underway as to whether keeping them separate or mixing them best serves the management regime.

The exception to this are the High-Security prisons such as Belmarsh currently being featured in the documentary series which thank god are still run by proper prison officers who know how to impose discipline and keep our foreign friends in order.

The whole system is a joke where we still lock people up for the likes of tv licence and council tax evasion and where we keep East Europeans at our expense filling our prisons to serve their sentences when I would rather we had them breaking rocks for a couple of years in such a tough regime that they never want to come back and infect this country ever again before returning them to where they came from where surprise surprise they are usually wanted there as well.


More rubbish from Barry No Balls
1 year ago
So you claim you served time in the past then Barry, what did they treat you like, were you given any rights despite being a prisoner?
1 year ago
Never had a mention much recently about the anti brexit brigade and their chlorinated chicken scaremongoring bollocks story bla bla..this has well and truly been put to bed last week...amazingly how quiet its been since eh.
1 year ago
Never had a mention much recently about the anti brexit brigade and their chlorinated chicken scaremongoring bollocks story bla bla..this has well and truly been put to bed last week...amazingly how quiet its been since eh.



I think Brexit is one of the very few things me and Barry actually agree on.
1 year ago
Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?


Using that as a yardstick the toties have only been in power once since 1979, albeit for a lot longer.
1 year ago
Fat finger again, should have typed tories.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.


Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).
1 year ago
Well it looks like Labour's time in the wilderness is going to be long and cold.

In fighting, long at home on the left will see even more moderate MP's seeking a new home.

Starmer will perish on his policy for Human Rights, why should terrorists, murderers, pedophiles or prisoners have any human rights ?

Long-Bailey needs Unite and Momentum on her team, who were the brass and strings section of the GE debacle.

The Buffoon is laughing all the way to the next Parliament Term.

Since 1979, Labour has been in power once, Tony Blair's left of center politics won the day for him. What is it that the current Labour Party don't get, or are they now just of bunch of misguided activists lost to an ideology ?


Using that as a yardstick the toties have only been in power once since 1979, albeit for a lot longer.




We have had a number of GE's along the way at least 7, so you are right, and wrong :-)

Using your yardstick, twice, they were voted out in 97.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.


Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).



So regardless of what they have done, you think rapists and paedophiles still deserve to be given food and water? In other words you want them to keep some rights, instead of the prisons just being allowed to starve them to death. That's the point I was making to Waltero, if you removed all of their rights they wouldn't even get food and water.

Ched Evans is a sick and vile individual.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.


Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).



So regardless of what they have done, you think rapists and paedophiles still deserve to be given food and water? In other words you want them to keep some rights, instead of the prisons just being allowed to starve them to death. That's the point I was making to Waltero, if you removed all of their rights they wouldn't even get food and water.

Ched Evans is a sick and vile individual.


From that, I take it you know him personally then ?

Not only proven to be not guilty of any crime but both his supposed victim and her mother proved to have lied in court Hell if that had been me i.d of had every penny they had [ both sold stories to the press ] and donated it to Charity and the sued the arse off the govt and not just accepted the first compensation amount he was offered.

And for what it's worth from a woman I know who knew him and worked with him for 12 months said you couldn't meet a nicer or more polite lad.


Don't know him, but any man who cheats on his partner is a disgrace.
1 year ago
There’s proof, it has to be a woman.
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Yes but is there a limit to how miserable you want it to be for them? Do you believe that prisoners should be fed enough food to keep them alive rather than just let them starve to death? If so, then you believe that prisoners should have human rights.


Depends on the crime I guess.

Rapists, pedos and the likes of those who batter old people up for their pension books deserve sod all but food and water as they didn't think of the human rights of their victims.

But then there would be people like Ched Evans suffering for something he didn't do. (I nearly wrote for a crime that they didn't commit there and now I cannot get the blasted A-Team tune out of my head).



So regardless of what they have done, you think rapists and paedophiles still deserve to be given food and water? In other words you want them to keep some rights, instead of the prisons just being allowed to starve them to death. That's the point I was making to Waltero, if you removed all of their rights they wouldn't even get food and water.

Ched Evans is a sick and vile individual.


From that, I take it you know him personally then ?

Not only proven to be not guilty of any crime but both his supposed victim and her mother proved to have lied in court Hell if that had been me i.d of had every penny they had [ both sold stories to the press ] and donated it to Charity and the sued the arse off the govt and not just accepted the first compensation amount he was offered.

And for what it's worth from a woman I know who knew him and worked with him for 12 months said you couldn't meet a nicer or more polite lad.


Some people did actually suggest she should be prosecuted but it's not that simple

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ched-evans-not-guilty-suggestions-complainant-perverted-the-course-of-justice-are-intellectually-a7362451.html

“The verdict means that a particular jury was not satisfied beyond reasonable doubt of [Evan's] guilt. It is not the same as saying the woman has lied."

“The fact that the jury do not give any motive for their decision is one of the reasons why you cannot say this woman should be prosecuted,” said Mr Brown. “Because it may be that the evidence from the woman was not the deciding factor in the case.
1 year ago
How long till Bonzo throws the fisherman under a bus ?
Answers on a postcard
1 year ago
How long till Bonzo throws the fisherman under a bus ?
Answers on a postcard


Surely you have learned in life by now that you wait until someone has done something before criticising them?
1 year ago
Meaning ?
The train has left the station.

The appetite for discussing brexit has diminished.

If you are worried about the fishermen try sucking a fishermans friend, calm you down.
1 year ago
Posties's union back on warpath again today.Have they not heard of email and the ever growing range of companies stealing their market.Change or die Im afraid
1 year ago
Perhaps if we made prisons miserable degrading places, where life is hell, they wouldn't be so keen to go, and even less likely to go back.


Unfortunately, every piece of meaningful research ever done has shown the better you treat prisoners the less likely they are to re-offend. Denmark has a re-offend rate a fraction of the rate of the US.
1 year ago
The train has left the station.

The appetite for discussing brexit has diminished.

If you are worried about the fishermen try sucking a fishermans friend, calm you down.


How the hell did Parcelpete miss this open goal?
1 year ago
Sorry for having an opinion....
The train has left the station.

The appetite for discussing brexit has diminished.

If you are worried about the fishermen try sucking a fishermans friend, calm you down.


Ha ha. Really Denton. It has only just begun. Enjoy the relaxing transition year, as when the 10s of thousands of job losses rack up thereafter, all the unemployed Brexit voters can suck it up, and us "remoaners" will be there every step of the way to say we told you so.

We are leaving the customs union and single market - which bit of there will be consequences do you not get?

Cue the "You lost, get over it" jibes.
1 year ago
Wanting Brexit to fail, just to say ‘l told you so’

Utterly pathetic.
Expecting it.....not wanting it to!
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