Tuesday, 17 December 2019
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Now the GE is done and dusted, and with MP’s returning to Parliament today to begin being sworn in, we’ve locked the GE Thread last night, and you can now use this one for any Westminster related stuff.

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1 year ago
That’s the spirit Seesaw. Wish I’d read that before donating to the cfm Christmas appeal last week.
1 year ago
That’s the spirit Seesaw. Wish I’d read that before donating to the cfm Christmas appeal last week.


Each to his own db....am talking food banks. Get down to your local FB and see it in action.
1 year ago
That’s the spirit Seesaw. Wish I’d read that before donating to the cfm Christmas appeal last week.


Nice one DB - was it a guilty conscience though for entering the cash call register every day for the last month :)
1 year ago
It's always the few who spoil it for the majority.
1 year ago
The Food bank system is a convenient way for big business to clear it's conscience.

The Supermarkets have monumental amounts of so-called ' waste ' food due to massive over supply which would have ended up in Landfill. So it suits both them and the Government of the day to re-distribute it to the needy. And how The Trussell Trust have exploited it !

A CEO on over £80k a year, with a pledge from the Government to pour even more into this project.

The actual number of food parcels distributed continues grows faster than the numbers who use it as they quickly work out how to get multiple numbers above there allowance.

In many cases ' shopping ' for neighbours and making a few bob to subsidise the drug trade. When the wheels fall off, and they will, it will be the real needy who suffer the most.


A couple of years ago around this time of the year my next-door neighbour [ a semi disabled widow in her early sixties ]Who to be honest we.d never really got on with [mainly due to our parties and shoots etc] got into some shit with her benefits and by the time we found out about it shed been without any cash for a month we set up a couple of things for her one of which was the local food bank. It works a bit differently around here once you are referred they come to you with a box full of stuff and they then sit down with you and make a list and next time they come they try to match up what they have with what's on your list. She invited us round to see what the first box contained and to be honest, I .ve never seen such a load of crap in my life.

So my Doris insisted we take her down to Tesco we did and spent 150 quid its turned out to be one of the best 150 quids I .ve spent in my life. She offered to pay it back when she got sorted but i.d noticed what a great job she did with the plants and flowers outside her house so I said you do our front as well and we.ll call it quits. I was expecting a one-year thing but here 3 summers later and she's still at it.

But as I say I found out quite a lot about our local food bank operation. They actually go out and buy certain things that they need that people don't donate which surprised me a bit and that the guys that do the deliveries are actually paid by a different charity [ back then some of them were actually guys on the dole and in a supposed work placement ] and unlike most foodbank, operations they do actually distribute fresh stuff that the supermarkets give them even putting their own use by dates on and I thought that somebody who got their feet under the table with them could almost give them a shopping list each week. But i.m told they're actually quite ruthless if there are rumours of people taking the piss.

But the whole charity support thing round here is pretty substantial led it seems by a Charity called the Maundy Trust who seem to own half the properties on one of Accys main shopping streets using them when not let out to tenants as second-hand shops run by people who haven't a clue about the value of things I bought a mixing desk and a box full of sound eqpt for 80 quid [ and yes I did make it up to a hundred as I thought it was ridiculously cheap ] and hey presto i sold the lot on e.bay for almost 5 times that in less than two weeks.


Long before the Trussell Trust came to be, the existing food-banks did a great job. They got to know all there regulars, who the leg swingers and chancer's were and managed them well. Then in the same town sometimes the Trussell Trust opened up and the job went to rat-shxt.
1 year ago
That’s the spirit Seesaw. Wish I’d read that before donating to the cfm Christmas appeal last week.


Nice one DB - was it a guilty conscience though for entering the cash call register every day for the last month :)


Nah they used to do toy collections at work and I used to buy some but I think they used to get similar stuff for certain age groups and nothing for other ones so by doing it this way they can buy what they need. I’m sure loads of people do the same :)
1 year ago
Not strictly food bank related, my mother in law manages the local Sally shop. She used to get all sorts in, asking for cereal, tins of soup, beans etc.
They brought in a rule that you had to be referred to get a food parcel, low and behold, shes not given anything out since August.
Nice- not

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/18/snp-mp-crosses-fingers-swearing-loyalty-queen/


If I am not mistaken, did our former Mayor and RMT representitive not do the same?

On a similar issue the civil trial of one of the Hyde Park bombers today brings back memories of how barbaric the IRA were.

Pleased we now have a prime minister who would stand up against terrorists, not stand up for them.
1 year ago
I bet the reaction by the other EU nations was one of horror after last Thursdays election.

They need us so once they see the perks and benefits that we will reap being out of the EU there will be rumblings of why they should be in it.
1 year ago
I bet the reaction by the other EU nations was one of horror after last Thursdays election.

They need us so once they see the perks and benefits that we will reap being out of the EU there will be rumblings of why they should be in it.


I think the EU is at a pivotal point.

It has to address how to negotiate with the UK now that Brexit it is going to happen, bearing in mind that a punitive deal will hurt both the EU and the UK, whilst at the same time there is increasing EU scepticism in other EU member states. Brexit could cause a domino effect of countries wanting to leave if the EU doesn't get the balance right.

I've always said that whilst the EU has expanded for the last few decades, there would come a point when it would start to contract, as countries start to ask whether the negatives outweigh the benefits.
1 year ago
Did you see Denise Coates pay packet for the year that was announced today at £277 million?. Great stuff eh apart from the fact they restrict your account if you look like you might win a few quid.


In fairness Bet365 are very relaxed when it comes to restrictions... They're one of the only ones I'm allowed to bet freely with nowadays. And their app is far easier to use than anyone else's.

IMO a bookie should be entitled to as much profit as they like, so long as they don't intervene with customers who might lose them money...
1 year ago
Hilarious
1 year ago
Support for the EU is very high across Europe, its only here that there are issues. No one else is considering leaving.

Support for EU membership above 80% in most member states amid Brexit mess

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-eu-survey-italy-ireland-portugal-eurosceptic-poll-a8888126.html
1 year ago
Wait till they are asked by Wee Nippy to join if she gets her way.7pc fiscal deficit-before the leave the UK, and they realise;

-no hard border at Berwick
-wee nippy wants rebates
-she won’t accept the euro

All she has to offer is fish

It’s basic economics as always.They need our trade and we need theirs
1 year ago
Good to see Boris already showing his true colours. Dwp taken away the right to have your fit to work assessment automatically forwarded to your gp. Nice
1 year ago
Good article in today's Telegraph business supplement on Scottish independence. I hope Mrs Krankie reads it
1 year ago
She doesn't read comics
1 year ago
Did you see Denise Coates pay packet for the year that was announced today at £277 million?. Great stuff eh apart from the fact they restrict your account if you look like you might win a few quid.


In fairness Bet365 are very relaxed when it comes to restrictions... They're one of the only ones I'm allowed to bet freely with nowadays. And their app is far easier to use than anyone else's.

IMO a bookie should be entitled to as much profit as they like, so long as they don't intervene with customers who might lose them money...


Lucky you Mike ;)
1 year ago
I suppose it depends where you look. The Pro-EU press or a neutral. The slight rise I would put down to the free movement of people.

"Eurobarometer surveys of EU citizens show that trust in the EU and its institutions has declined strongly since a peak in 2007. Since then, it has been consistently below 50%. A 2009 survey showed that support for EU membership was lowest in the United Kingdom (UK), Latvia and Hungary. By 2016, the countries viewing the EU most unfavourably were the UK, Greece, France and Spain. A referendum on continued EU membership was held in the UK in 2016 which resulted in a 51.9% vote in favour of leaving the EU. Since 2015, trust in the EU has risen slightly in most EU countries as a result of falling unemployment rates and accelerating economic growth. Post 2019 election survey "Eurobarometer" report showed that 68% citizens support the European Union, the highest level since 1983; at the same time sentiment among Europeans that things are not going in the right direction in both the EU and in their own countries had increased to 50%."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroscepticism
1 year ago
She doesn't read comics


I’m sure she does read The National.
1 year ago
Dandy and Beano more likely
1 year ago
As much as I am no Trump fan, I can't help thinking the Democrats have made a big mistake impeaching him.

It's all a bit like the Court Case against Boris for proroguing Parliament.

I can't see anything other than the Trump machine now pointing their guns at Pelosi.

Anyone who thinks Politicians get there own way without some back-stabbing, bullying and miss-truths are kidding themselves, and the Yanks will be as bad as anybody.
1 year ago
From wiki
In 1993, the Barclay brothers bought the tenement of the island of Brecqhou, a small sister island of Sark, one of the Channel Islands. Their mock-Gothic castle on Brecqhou, designed by Quinlan Terry, features 100-foot (30 m) granite walls, battlements, two swimming pools and a helicopter pad. Since their purchase of the tenement of Brecqhou, the Barclays have been in several legal disputes with the government of Sark over such issues as the Barclays' violation of Sark's law banning motor cars. They have also expressed a desire to make Brecqhou politically independent from Sark – building on the research of William Toplis, the painter, and others, who argued that Brecqhou was not a part of the fief of Sark.

You would think freedom fighters like the Barclays would back independence against the evil oppressive Government of a Communist regime like Sark.

The Barclay brothers are tax exiles, and although they reside, at least some of the time, in Monaco (giving Avenue de Grande Bretagne, Monte Carlo as their address) they operate their businesses from an office in the United Kingdom.[26][29] When asked if he was a tax exile, Frederick stated that he lived abroad for health reasons.[30] The corporate tax arrangements of the Ritz Hotel, which was purchased and refurbished by the brothers in 1995, was the subject of a December 2012 investigation by BBC's Panorama current affairs television programme.[31][32] The hotel has paid no corporation tax in the UK by legally claiming reliefs for 17 years.

The everyday struggle of 2 brothers with a net worth of £3bn who pay tax of £0 and who employ the Westminster prime minister. Clearly people the populace of Scotland can identify with. The Barclays can shove their article up their arses
1 year ago
Thought you would be praising them Marko, a couple of Jocks that started with nothing and did good.

You missed the part about them pulling out of Sark and taking the £5.0m a year they invested causing 170 people to lose there jobs, (28% of the population) when they voted to stick by the medieval governance of the island.

I wonder how much there investment contributed to the local economy, but I suppose that's history now.

Bloody Jocks !
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