Sunday, 16 January 2022
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Hi fellow Carlisle United fans!

We’re ‘Unita Fortior’ - A group set up with the aim of creating a better voice for the fanbase.

We’ll be presenting our launch document this coming week, so keep an eye out.

Please also search for our Facebook group or Twitter profile if you use these platforms.

UNITA FORTIOR

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Transferred the membership fee and filled in the online form last week, still no response.

Is this normal?
4 months ago
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#302757
Seems to take a couple of weeks at least, after a fortnight you’d be best emailing them to enquire…
4 months ago
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#302760
I asked the trust some questions on Twitter re attendees at their meeting and possibly a discussion about the use of the Reunited fund - but nothing.

Sadly as well a few other people have tweeted and sent questions and received nothing. Doesn’t need to be instant but the silence is poor.

This is why people are getting frustrated, didn’t join the trust initially and call them all the names under the sun. UF are also volunteers but are replying instantly to questions, it has seemed impossible for the trust to be able too.


Are you or the others you know members?

If yes have the members received a reply?

I would expect all questions from both members and non members are answered if asked in a polite manner in a reasonable timeframe.

Maybe it’s a question worth asking at the cusg meeting regarding whose responsibility is it and the timescale.

My thoughts are that the trust might or should have a social media spokesperson who would refer the question if he can’t answer immediately to the relevant trust member/section but should respond with an immediate reply to advise what they have done.
4 months ago
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#302763
Hi all,

As per the tweet below, CUOSC have announced the details of their members meeting.

This is your opportunity to ask questions of the current set-up.

Zoom is also available for exiles, see details for access.

UNITA FORTIOR

4 months ago
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#302768
Hi all,

As per the tweet below, CUOSC have announced the details of their members meeting.

This is your opportunity to ask questions of the current set-up.

Zoom is also available for exiles, see details for access.

UNITA FORTIOR



What about as a one off allowing non members access to the meeting might initiate a few more joining.
4 months ago
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#302770
They’ve just tweeted this to me:

4 months ago
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#302772
I asked the trust some questions on Twitter re attendees at their meeting and possibly a discussion about the use of the Reunited fund - but nothing.

Sadly as well a few other people have tweeted and sent questions and received nothing. Doesn’t need to be instant but the silence is poor.

This is why people are getting frustrated, didn’t join the trust initially and call them all the names under the sun. UF are also volunteers but are replying instantly to questions, it has seemed impossible for the trust to be able too.


Are you or the others you know members?

If yes have the members received a reply?

I would expect all questions from both members and non members are answered if asked in a polite manner in a reasonable timeframe.

Maybe it’s a question worth asking at the cusg meeting regarding whose responsibility is it and the timescale.

My thoughts are that the trust might or should have a social media spokesperson who would refer the question if he can’t answer immediately to the relevant trust member/section but should respond with an immediate reply to advise what they have done.


They are replying to questions tonight about the meeting to those that have asked questions prior but still have had no replies, so the answer is no - this is via Twitter.

I haven’t to the questions posted on here either.

Agree completely with your suggestion highland.
4 months ago
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#302854
Hi all,

Disappointed to read the latest CUOSC column in the News and Star claim UF ‘refuse to engage’?

An invitation to our informal meet, followed by agreeing to come to the surgery is anything but!

We simply didn’t want a ‘private’ meeting!

UNITA FORTIOR
4 months ago
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#302856
It’s time for the vote of no confidence and vote them off as this can’t carry on.

It’s turned into politics, as I thought it would do and the current trust personnel being petty etc.

This will just carry on for years until the current lot are replaced and the club continues to deteriorate.

Momentum is with UF so call it. Otherwise nothing will change apart from more politics.
Hi all,

Disappointed to read the latest CUOSC column in the News and Star claim UF ‘refuse to engage’?

An invitation to our informal meet, followed by agreeing to come to the surgery is anything but!

We simply didn’t want a ‘private’ meeting!

UNITA FORTIOR


Interesting that they have time to write propaganda columns for the local paper, but no time to process membership applications from a week ago.
4 months ago
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#302860
The owners of the club, not trust will be loving this.

Fan squabbles taking attention from them.

Use the momentum and use it to get them out - there’s means because UF have the support the current trust members don’t and move it forward.
4 months ago
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#302861
Hi all,

Disappointed to read the latest CUOSC column in the News and Star claim UF ‘refuse to engage’?

An invitation to our informal meet, followed by agreeing to come to the surgery is anything but!

We simply didn’t want a ‘private’ meeting!

UNITA FORTIOR


So does this mean that if anyone joins as part of a group they will be invited to a private meeting? or is this something they are going to extend to all new members?

CUOSC don't deserve new members with an attitude like that
4 months ago
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#302867
Mullen , it probably confirms for anyone who had a doubt that there is no way on earth a fans group could run the club .
4 months ago
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#302880
Mullen , it probably confirms for anyone who had a doubt that there is no way on earth a fans group could run the club .


Yep agree - it’s needs one successful person to run this club, with ideas.

My opinion is nothing to do with taking sides. But the trust have been in position for X years with nothing much happening. UF have momentum now, causing the trust to be petty and lose even more credibility and confidence. Let someone else have a go.

Whoever decided to write that or agree to that statement by the trust wants as far away from anything to do with the club, as possible. Bad attitude and entirely wrong imo
4 months ago
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#302884
Yes-it’s like the village community pub with 25 landlords.
4 months ago
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#302886
Hi all,

Disappointed to read the latest CUOSC column in the News and Star claim UF ‘refuse to engage’?

An invitation to our informal meet, followed by agreeing to come to the surgery is anything but!

We simply didn’t want a ‘private’ meeting!

UNITA FORTIOR


They are trying to create conflict, don't bite.

Your influence of the silent majority is clear, let the process work, and keep doing what you are doing.

More new members needed.

Eventually they will wake up and realise the problem. Other than those who will hang on by there finger nails.
4 months ago
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#302906
"We simply didn’t want a ‘private’ meeting!"

Oh the irony.

Perfectly happy to have private discussions on your private WhatsApp group, but didn't want a private meeting. Right then.

Internal trust squabbling, both "factions" are as bad as the other.
4 months ago
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#302909
What are you wanting them to do ?
Screen shot all they’re watts apps and post it for you ?
4 months ago
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#302910
If by "them" you mean UF.

Being honest about their intentions and not having a hidden agenda would be a start.

Also to be consistent.

If you're going to take the position no trust meeting / discussion should be private, then you have to apply it to yourselves.

At the minute, UF are holding private discussions and coming to political decisions behind closed doors, which is no different to the trust hierarchy in any shape or form. They're imitating the thing they seek to supplant.

It was a political decision to refuse to meet the trust board, clearly. If the sole reason for UF's existence is to drive membership numbers and increase supporter representation then there's no reason not to meet, unless you're playing games (or being untruthful about your intent).
4 months ago
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#302966
Hi all,

Remember to keep an eye out for us handing our flyers out before tomorrow’s match!

Thanks to both Nigel Clibbens and CUOSC for agreeing for us to be able to do so on club property!

UNITA FORTIOR
4 months ago
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#302983
If "Unita Fortia" are going to criticize their trust masters for not personally signing social media posts, shouldn't they do the same thing?

I expect to see all UF social media posts personally signed from this point forward, otherwise it's clear hypocrisy.
4 months ago
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#302984
It's also clear from the leaflet what UF's true (and as yet unstated) aim is, and it's not contradictory to the raison d'être of the trust.

To be "like Exeter" is for the trust to own the club. That's the reason the trust torpedoed the recent takeover and it's also clearly the reason (at least according to this leaflet) UF are making their move.

It's not "merely a recruitment drive" like they claim, it appears to be a clandestine takeover attempt.
4 months ago
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#302985
It's also clear from the leaflet what UF's true (and as yet unstated) aim is, and it's not contradictory to the raison d'être of the trust.

To be "like Exeter" is for the trust to own the club. That's the reason the trust torpedoed the recent takeover and it's also clearly the reason (at least according to this leaflet) UF are making their move.

It's not "merely a recruitment drive" like they claim, it appears to be a clandestine takeover attempt.


I suppose it depends upon whether you think a takeover, clandestine or otherwise is a good thing.
4 months ago
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#302986
What depends?

A takeover by the trust would be the end / death of the club.

I prefer the current owners and management, by a million miles.
4 months ago
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#302987
Seems clear enough to me they are fed up with the trust like many others so are trying to increase numbers and then change those at the top . Maybe it will be better maybe it will be worse but you won't know unless you try . And any fan that thinks that a trust run by anyone else will lead to any openness on club matters will be disappointed . As for change many will get bored quickly when little if anything changes straight away . As the trust whoever runs it has 25% holding and contributes nothing anywhere near their share and never have . That's not to say a change at the top won't help and any improvement has to be good going forward as some on the current board clearly need binned.
Rome wasn't built in a day .
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