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10 Jan 2017 20:52 #51 by nomadblue2
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How do I contact Phil King to make a suggestion !
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10 Jan 2017 22:11 #52 by Mortonblue
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Me & my mate went down for the marquee event had the free pint and then went into the Sporting Inn, usually go in the Apple tree beforehand ( £2-2p a pint an hour, before during. ..and after a game with a Greene King card)
So ended up paying more than usual but supported the event to an extent.

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10 Jan 2017 22:28 - 10 Jan 2017 22:29 #53 by seesaw50
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nomadblue2 wrote: How do I contact Phil King to make a suggestion !
:)


Am sure if you're serious to youll find a way :huh:
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12 Jan 2017 01:18 #54 by wetheriggscufc
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This forum is one of the only places you can find where people will complain forever about the lack of forward thinking in the club then call to get rid of the most forward thinking person in the whole off-field organisation. Barmy and to be honest quite annoying, try new things and bloody support them.

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12 Jan 2017 01:54 #55 by munchymagic
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wetheriggscufc wrote: This forum is one of the only places you can find where people will complain forever about the lack of forward thinking in the club then call to get rid of the most forward thinking person in the whole off-field organisation. Barmy and to be honest quite annoying, try new things and bloody support them.


" forward thinking in the club "

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12 Jan 2017 07:33 #56 by CarlisleWhite
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Wetheriggs
£50 a ticket would be a new thing?
What are these forward thinking things PK has introduced (the marque was a London Branch idea).

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12 Jan 2017 12:04 #57 by Urban Designer
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A marque is a good idea for warm days in August or May but was never going to work in December. A xmas market with local products might have attracted a few extra people looking for novelty presents.

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12 Jan 2017 12:25 #58 by CCU
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Urban Designer wrote: A marque is a good idea for warm days in August or May but was never going to work in December. A xmas market with local products might have attracted a few extra people looking for novelty presents.


Work at Grounds all over Europe with far worse climates...

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12 Jan 2017 15:57 #59 by mattcufc
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The marquee worked for the Everton game because there were no other facilities available at the ground, no beehive, no rugby club and 13,000 more fans than usual attending. Not quite sure how they expected it to work again for a one off event without costing money. They would of been better off investing the free beer in getting people to use the bars again and making sure the service was better.

On another note was at the New ticket office for the first time yesterday thought the use of the East Stand space looked much better and professional, not sure the staff need to be boxed in behind security screens though as made it seem a bit unfriendly but much preferable than waiting in a queue in the pissing rain.

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12 Jan 2017 17:09 #60 by Dancingbear
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Without wanting to upset people it's very simple. Offer competitive food and drink options and people will buy in. Don't and people will eat/drink elsewhere. I know that doesn't matter to a lot of people on here but surely King doesn't need to ask to be told that. If people usually go to a pub to watch the early game and your trying to entice them to BP earlier to make money off them your gonna need to offer them similar. Standing freezing in a marquee with I'm assuming no tele isn't gonna move them from the pub.

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12 Jan 2017 17:20 #61 by Mullen103
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People didn't go to the "marque" they only went because they were season ticket holders and could get a free drink.

The tent was a waste of time as they was nothing inside it, no band former players or anything.

As Dancingbear put it, it was a sucess V Everton as they was 3/4 times the amount of people and everything around about was shut.

If your going to do something like this i'd get a couple of local bands and get a barbecue going or hog roast in winter. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to think/implement good ideas.

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12 Jan 2017 17:22 #62 by The Archer
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Dancingbear wrote: Without wanting to upset people it's very simple. Offer competitive food and drink options and people will buy in. Don't and people will eat/drink elsewhere. I know that doesn't matter to a lot of people on here but surely King doesn't need to ask to be told that. If people usually go to a pub to watch the early game and your trying to entice them to BP earlier to make money off them your gonna need to offer them similar. Standing freezing in a marquee with I'm assuming no tele isn't gonna move them from the pub.


Colchester had a band playing outside on Saturday, there must've been a couple of hundred standing around with a pint in hand taking in their 'classic' covers. They also had football tennis which kids were having a go at.

If the likes of Colchester can provide entertainment like this, surely we can.

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12 Jan 2017 17:42 #63 by Mortonblue
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There's no beehive/rugby club/magpie or Toby carvery, or town centre 10 minutes walk away from the ground though.

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12 Jan 2017 17:51 - 12 Jan 2017 17:52 #64 by Urban Designer
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Hog roast is a good idea - Personally Id rather pay more for something decent than eat the crap they have on sale. How about a Miss Carlisle United Lovely ladies Competition!! :cheer:
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12 Jan 2017 18:09 #65 by seesaw50
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Dancingbear wrote: Without wanting to upset people it's very simple. Offer competitive food and drink options and people will buy in. Don't and people will eat/drink elsewhere. I know that doesn't matter to a lot of people on here but surely King doesn't need to ask to be told that. If people usually go to a pub to watch the early game and your trying to entice them to BP earlier to make money off them your gonna need to offer them similar. Standing freezing in a marquee with I'm assuming no tele isn't gonna move them from the pub.


Colchester had a band playing outside on Saturday, there must've been a couple of hundred standing around with a pint in hand taking in their 'classic' covers. They also had football tennis which kids were having a go at.

If the likes of Colchester can provide entertainment like this, surely we can.


And there was still under 4k at the game !
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12 Jan 2017 18:12 #66 by seesaw50
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seesaw50 wrote: My other thought is ...winter up here doesn't exactly lend itself to jolly events as the wather can put a downer on any outdoor activity ...best save any fans days for the beginning and end of the season :)

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12 Jan 2017 18:39 #67 by munchymagic
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I have a sure fire winner for Phil King, three lots of stocks in the middle of the pitch with AJ, JN and SP in them and you pay a quid for three over ripe tomatoes to throw at an owner of your choice.

I could guarantee that this event would at least double the gate but of course they would not seize upon this initiative.
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Im in then...


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12 Jan 2017 18:49 #69 by Dancingbear
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munchymagic wrote: I have a sure fire winner for Phil King, three lots of stocks in the middle of the pitch with AJ, JN and SP in them and you pay a quid for three over ripe tomatoes to throw at an owner of your choice.

I could guarantee that this event would at least double the gate but of course they would not seize upon this initiative.


Would there be a opportunity to upgrade to possibly 3 not over ripe apples for a fiver?

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12 Jan 2017 19:58 - 12 Jan 2017 19:58 #70 by CCU
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If we're going to do a marquee, then it needs done for say a season, and get stuff on in it.

We use ex-Players in Foxy's, surely part of the gig could be half hour in the marquee as well?

Get a link to the Stadium Announcer, pipe the music into the marquee, even get a couple competitions (Guess the crowd for instance) going. Plenty could be done here.

Regular barbecue or similar as part of the experience, stuff like Cumberland Sausage Buns, the already mentioned Hog Roast etc. Make it appealing and folk will try.

A good long run would see it take off as folk realised what was happening in it, and maybe get more spend in at the Club instead of Beehive, Rugby Club etc profiting off our backs?

Because folk aren't used to it, they don't like breaking their tradition. Give them a product worth using and they will...

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12 Jan 2017 20:16 #71 by munchymagic
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Something simple late or early in the season like a cider and sausage festival like they do down south goes down a treat, as many varieties as you can chuck at it the better - you would be amazed at the attention something like this generates.

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12 Jan 2017 20:37 #72 by franksidebottom
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If I was him I'd be asking people why they're using other outlets pre and post match rather than the football club's. Then I'd go back and address the reasons given.

Personally it because of the nicer surroundings, better service and cheaper drink.

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12 Jan 2017 20:47 #73 by DeckchairBlue
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But the majority of fans answer to that will be "because I always have". How do you change what people see as their pre-match traditions ?

They not only need to match what other places do, they need to be better than them in order to get people to change their habits, then keep the quality of what is on offer at that level to stop them from going back.

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12 Jan 2017 21:07 #74 by Mortonblue
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I agree completely they have to do more to attract the supporters down to spend their time at the ground before & after the matches.
I see they are having another happy hour 1pm to 2pm on Saturday.

Also in the legends lounge before the game at Bruton Park ( on the back of legends of Carlisle United night tomorrow at the old fire station) & also in Foxes after the game.... could they not get a couple of them to also do the same before/ after the game in say the Sunset suite on Saturday?

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12 Jan 2017 21:10 #75 by Mortonblue
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Because it's 3-50p a pint, service ain't good etc etc

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12 Jan 2017 21:33 #76 by shaldon1
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Phil King should not under any circumstances be criticised on here .He has only been here five minutes.I have to say that the person that does try and put some sense into this site is Laffy.I am going to stick my head out and advise most of the critics that they seem hell bent on Directors departing. Believe me they are helping to keep the team where they are.If all the Directors resigned tomorrow what would happen to Carlisle United?
The facts are there is not enough sponsorship and supporters in the Carlisle area to sustain a championship team but unfortunately most supporters in any football club do not understand the figures. I am not saying that is all supporters but in my opinion it is the vast majority.

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12 Jan 2017 21:40 #77 by High Street
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We don't believe you Steve. Or anything that comes out of your mouth/Twitter account.
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12 Jan 2017 21:44 #78 by Laffy
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Hang on Shaldon-I'm of 'dubious business practices'-not.Also,not a pie vendor.

You are right about Phil-he is a decent,smart guy,sadly with limited tools at his disposal and a backdrop of billionairegate and the sooner that mess is sorted out,the better for all concerned.

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Laffy wrote: Hang on Shaldon-I'm of 'dubious business practices'-not.Also,not a pie vendor.

You are right about Phil-he is a decent,smart guy,sadly with limited tools at his disposal and a backdrop of billionairegate and the sooner that mess is sorted out,the better for all concerned.


No excuse - he'll have known what resources he had to work with when he took the job. 'Billionairegate' should make no difference to how he does his job right now.

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12 Jan 2017 22:11 #80 by Laffy
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Not sure about that-a lot of guys out there aren't happy

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DeckchairBlue wrote: But the majority of fans answer to that will be "because I always have". How do you change what people see as their pre-match traditions ?

They not only need to match what other places do, they need to be better than them in order to get people to change their habits, then keep the quality of what is on offer at that level to stop them from going back.


How do you know what the majority of fans answer will be?!!!

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Laffy wrote: Not sure about that-a lot of guys out there aren't happy


He'll have still known what resources he had when he came into the job, this whole thing is unlikely to have changed that.

Football fans are always unhappy about something or other.

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12 Jan 2017 22:22 #83 by Laffy
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I'm talking about local businesses who were planning to invest with me

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shaldon1 wrote: Phil King should not under any circumstances be criticised on here .He has only been here five minutes.I have to say that the person that does try and put some sense into this site is Laffy.I am going to stick my head out and advise most of the critics that they seem hell bent on Directors departing. Believe me they are helping to keep the team where they are.If all the Directors resigned tomorrow what would happen to Carlisle United?
The facts are there is not enough sponsorship and supporters in the Carlisle area to sustain a championship team but unfortunately most supporters in any football club do not understand the figures. I am not saying that is all supporters but in my opinion it is the vast majority.

If all the directors resigned... oh boy that would make my day and many others too.. i believe sponsorship locally would come flocking back once the club is rid of the dinosaurs currently running it...but Shaldon-Pattison -bell end or whoever you are keep living in your little deluded bubble.

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13 Jan 2017 09:24 #85 by CarlisleWhite
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Still don't see what anything of this has to do with the job PK is/is not doing.
It is not for the likes of the message board to make suggestions to someone on £70 - 100K a year as to how to do his job.
However, maybe Laffy is right and he has at least one hand tied behind his back.
If the two main obvious improvements are match day income from punters and local businesses, that is a big millstone, but it was there before he came, so he must have known what he was getting in to.
Big question then is how can the drawbacks be overcome.
Still think he has way under performed for his salary mind.

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No, I think that'd probably be Curle

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13 Jan 2017 10:29 #87 by Dancingbear
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wetheriggscufc wrote: No, I think that'd probably be Curle



What would probably be Curle?

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Sorry, was supposed to be a reply to Munchy about the most forward thinking in the club, think our football has moved on massively since he's arrived, that's why I said off-field for this topic!

As for the marquee, a London Branch idea it might have been and fair play, but King and the board took it on and put themselves up to be shot at, those sort of risks haven't been made in years gone by. I honestly think the PR side of the club is slowly getting better, of course it could be far better it's easy to see but there has been progress.

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wetheriggscufc wrote: Sorry, was supposed to be a reply to Munchy about the most forward thinking in the club, think our football has moved on massively since he's arrived, that's why I said off-field for this topic!

As for the marquee, a London Branch idea it might have been and fair play, but King and the board took it on and put themselves up to be shot at, those sort of risks haven't been made in years gone by. I honestly think the PR side of the club is slowly getting better, of course it could be far better it's easy to see but there has been progress.


Thought you meant hed underperformed for his salary as per the previous post. I suppose the only way to see if King has overperformed his salary is actual numbers. If he has brought in more extra money than hes been paid then hes been successful. If the figure is lower then he hasnt been.

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Yeah, it would be the only way really in that line of work, if he hadn't though you'd have to factor in how difficult it is to get people to change their pre-match rituals even just twice a season. I wonder if other clubs find it as difficult, as a group of fans I think we like the crack before the game so a new place for a beer should be a winner, compared to other clubs at our level where everywhere round the group is sparse until 10 to 3.

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wetheriggscufc wrote: Yeah, it would be the only way really in that line of work, if he hadn't though you'd have to factor in how difficult it is to get people to change their pre-match rituals even just twice a season. I wonder if other clubs find it as difficult, as a group of fans I think we like the crack before the game so a new place for a beer should be a winner, compared to other clubs at our level where everywhere round the group is sparse until 10 to 3.


Yep a seperate bar area would be good but doubt it would happen. I know its been mentioned a few times but bars like the one at Walsall must make them a few quid. Stevenage have a smaller version as well which has been fairly packed the 3 times ive been in it.

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13 Jan 2017 12:10 #92 by markredfox73
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Many used to go in the sunset or sporting in pre game but the service and beer got really shite and folk decided to go elsewhere....that surely still stands...but then again some folk will drink owt.

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13 Jan 2017 13:08 #93 by ISNEddERSI
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Definitely like the live music idea, bands playing covers getting people vocal singing along to well known songs, whilst also firing in a few chants, this would be good before a game.

Actually allowing a singing section. Dont get me started on the flag issue. (BP is still like a funeral parlour sometimes)

Half Time activities.... What happened to the cheerleaders ... :silly:

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Interviewing fans before and after games?

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13 Jan 2017 13:22 #94 by CCU
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MerseysideBlue will be restarting the Podcasts soon, don't think he's time for a Fan Channel though!

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13 Jan 2017 13:31 #95 by Mortonblue
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The sunset suite is due a refurb in May ( depending on our position in league)
I think West coasters ate putting a TV in too.
If others follow suit & put more TV in & get some pictures of United on the walls etc.
Some more decent staff in ( and promotions too.) Yes I know it's been mentioned a hundred times,
Who knows we might see it back to its former glories.
Be great if we gained promotion too.

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13 Jan 2017 13:51 #96 by Dancingbear
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Mortonblue wrote: The sunset suite is due a refurb in May ( depending on our position in league)
I think West coasters ate putting a TV in too.
If others follow suit & put more TV in & get some pictures of United on the walls etc.
Some more decent staff in ( and promotions too.) Yes I know it's been mentioned a hundred times,
Who knows we might see it back to its former glories.
Be great if we gained promotion too.


Ffs if the west coasters are having to chip in for a new tele it shows just how bad things are and what a low point King and co are starting from. How the [censored] are they gonna get punters in early from the likes of Lloyds etc because some fans have chipped in for a tele? That's not to knock the great effort by the lads who are chipping in to buy the bloody thing. May as well just go with Seesaws thinking. Stroll up at 5 to 3 watch the game go home again with the club not seeing a penny.

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13 Jan 2017 14:05 #97 by CCU
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Way I read it was, the Westcoasters wanted their own 'corner', and would put their own TV in to show it was their bit?

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13 Jan 2017 14:08 #98 by Dancingbear
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CCU wrote: Way I read it was, the Westcoasters wanted their own 'corner', and would put their own TV in to show it was their bit?


Haha what they gonna do if someone takes their seats?

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13 Jan 2017 14:24 #99 by sirjimmyglass
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Throw some jam at the intruders?
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13 Jan 2017 14:28 #100 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote: Way I read it was, the Westcoasters wanted their own 'corner', and would put their own TV in to show it was their bit?


Haha what they gonna do if someone takes their seats?


Exactly my thoughts!

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