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25 Sep 2017 09:20 #1 by CCU

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25 Sep 2017 10:20 #2 by Deano19
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Doesn't rule it out at any pointin that, If say Cosgrove got injured i wouldn't be against him coming in short term.

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25 Sep 2017 14:08 #3 by nobbyblue
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A fit Rigg would be a lot better than Cosgrove.
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25 Sep 2017 15:18 #4 by musher441
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nobbyblue wrote: A fit Rigg would be a lot better than Cosgrove.


Different types of player I think.
The times I have seen Cosgrove when he got extended game time at Fleetwood and Lincoln, and to lesser extent, the home games, he seems to play to hold the ball up and lay it off, bringing others into play.
I've always thought of Rigg to be a poacher.

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25 Sep 2017 15:24 #5 by nobbyblue
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Cosgrove doesn't look too bad when he comes on granted but he couldn't get in the North Ferriby team last year and has never ever scored a goal so he's just making up the numbers really. Where as Rigg always made a decent contribution when he played.
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25 Sep 2017 15:48 #6 by Bluesmad
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8 goals in 39 games is a decent return for someone who had barely trained at a professional level before being signed. Having seen some dross come through the ever revolving door i'd have preferred us to have kept him and worked with him. I know he's nowhere near being a starter but training and playing in a team with Adams, Jones, Hill etc will only make him better.

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25 Sep 2017 16:28 #7 by munchymagic
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I bet Rigg gets fit quicker than Bennett - and we are nearly in October....

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25 Sep 2017 21:51 #8 by Soh Wot
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Personally I would like Rigg back in the fold. I did not think he should have been let go when he was. One thing is for sure, he will always try and give his best.

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25 Sep 2017 22:20 #9 by Swintonblue
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I'd have Rigg over Bennett any day of the week.

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26 Sep 2017 07:16 #10 by CCU
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Rigg would work with S.Miller IMO...

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26 Sep 2017 11:41 #11 by Deano19
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Nice to see Richie Bennett has been given a fair chance before being written off.

Steven Rigg struggled massively during his 2nd season here but as free agents go we know what we would get from Steven Rigg

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26 Sep 2017 14:19 #12 by Swintonblue
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Deano19 wrote: Nice to see Richie Bennett has been given a fair chance before being written off.

Steven Rigg struggled massively during his 2nd season here but as free agents go we know what we would get from Steven Rigg


He has been given (more than) a fair chance , and Bennett isn't, currently , anywhere near the required standard. It's not even the fact that he's got no goals in 10 games, he just isn't talented/fit enough to be a professional footballer.

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26 Sep 2017 15:35 #13 by Deano19
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In the league he's played the equivalent of 4.5 matches & in the cup probably his 2 best performances But you are entitled to your opinion and thats fair enough. I feel he will get 10-15 goals before the end of the season, Which would be a great return for his first year in the football league.

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26 Sep 2017 15:38 #14 by sirjimmyglass
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Some absolutely top "former player is fantastic" / "A. Trialist is better than anything we've currently got" going on here, ladies and gentlemen.

Played 11 games since November 2015, scored zero goals, got released by a mid-table Scottish Championship side, and you lot are scrambling to sign him just because we're letting him make up the numbers in training.
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26 Sep 2017 16:08 #15 by franksidebottom
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Rigg had a decent first season for us when we were scrapping and battling for points, especially given the level he had just moved up from. He really struggled second season however when we were looking to play with a bit more finesse and was rightly released, his career since just goes to prove this. No thanks.

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26 Sep 2017 18:22 #16 by seesaw50
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Maybe being injured (knee) last November has hampered his progress eh!

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26 Sep 2017 19:11 #17 by Deano19
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Quite simple for me, Rigg wouldn't make our squad any weaker but if we got to January and Curle is scraping round for "budget" come jan then it would be silly.

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26 Sep 2017 22:38 #18 by CCU
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seesaw50 wrote: Maybe being injured (knee) last November has hampered his progress eh!


Which was a year to the day since he did it the season before when on loan from us to Barrow...

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26 Sep 2017 22:45 #19 by Deano19
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I'm happy to admit when i'm wrong, Richie Bennett will not get 10-15 goals this season. Our forwards between them will not get 15 goals.

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27 Sep 2017 03:37 - 27 Sep 2017 03:40 #20 by munchymagic
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Bennett is a decent non league player, would love him to prove me wrong but he is currently a striker who cannot buy a goal.

Even if he did score it would probably be another eight before he scored again, the opposition teams he has played against have been of varying strengths and qualities but that doesn't seem to matter as he cannot score against any of them.

No goals in ten is a bit shit really when he has been given the chance.
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28 Sep 2017 08:56 #21 by CCU
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28 Sep 2017 09:35 #22 by Lakelandterrier
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The club going the cheap version with this. The lad is not good enough. Plentynof heart, nothing more. The Jenkins method of running a club again. Put a sticking plaster over things for cheap.

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28 Sep 2017 09:46 #23 by thetashkentterror
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I think we're reached desperation levels if signing Rigg back on is being contemplated.

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28 Sep 2017 09:53 #24 by pedals
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Lakelandterrier wrote: The club going the cheap version with this. The lad is not good enough. Plentynof heart, nothing more. The Jenkins method of running a club again. Put a sticking plaster over things for cheap.


Bennett and Hope weren't exactly the "cheap versions" though were they. If they're on a total of £3k a week between them and if we add on the £50k we're paying for Bennett then it's costing upwards of £350k over two years for two strikers who at present aren't up to scratch. At least if we signed Rigg in place of Cosgrove then we'd know what we were getting. Giving him £500 a week for a few months wouldn't exactly be the worst thing in the world.

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28 Sep 2017 10:02 #25 by Lakelandterrier
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pedals wrote:

Lakelandterrier wrote: The club going the cheap version with this. The lad is not good enough. Plentynof heart, nothing more. The Jenkins method of running a club again. Put a sticking plaster over things for cheap.


Bennett and Hope weren't exactly the "cheap versions" though were they. If they're on a total of £3k a week between them and if we add on the £50k we're paying for Bennett then it's costing upwards of £350k over two years for two strikers who at present aren't up to scratch. At least if we signed Rigg in place of Cosgrove then we'd know what we were getting. Giving him £500 a week for a few months wouldn't exactly be the worst thing in the world.



50k for a player is also cheap nowadays.
If the club were paying good money to players how come we lost out for players to a lesser club like Mansfield?

The Chairman has always ran the club on cheap fees and free transfers. They can say what they want the facts are there.
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Jenkins first stint in charge, old second division to fouth division consecutive seasons. Second time in charge, brink of the Championship to bottom division again.
Dwindling attendances.. do i have to go on?...

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28 Sep 2017 10:28 #26 by pedals
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Lakelandterrier wrote:

pedals wrote:

Lakelandterrier wrote: The club going the cheap version with this. The lad is not good enough. Plentynof heart, nothing more. The Jenkins method of running a club again. Put a sticking plaster over things for cheap.


Bennett and Hope weren't exactly the "cheap versions" though were they. If they're on a total of £3k a week between them and if we add on the £50k we're paying for Bennett then it's costing upwards of £350k over two years for two strikers who at present aren't up to scratch. At least if we signed Rigg in place of Cosgrove then we'd know what we were getting. Giving him £500 a week for a few months wouldn't exactly be the worst thing in the world.


50k for a player is also cheap nowadays.
If the club were paying good money to players how come we lost out for players to a lesser club like Mansfield?

The Chairman has always ran the club on cheap fees and free transfers. They can say what they want the facts are there.
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Jenkins first stint in charge, old second division to fouth division consecutive seasons. Second time in charge, brink of the Championship to bottom division again.
Dwindling attendances.. do i have to go on?...


The reason teams like Mansfield were outbidding us is because Curle spent all the money last summer when we were the team outbidding teams like them. Curle ran out of money and then went to Jenkins asking for more to sign Gary Liddle, and that money was given to him. The budget in the summer, albeit less than last season for the reasons mentioned, was spent predominantly on Kelvin Etuhu and Hallam Hope. They aren't here because they love Carlisle, they're here because they're getting a good wage in the same way that a lot of our players are. So you can criticise Jenkins for a lot of things, and rightly so, but making money available to Curle and those before him has never been the issue. It just so happens that the money made available has been used up, hence why possibly signing Rigg to make up the numbers is where we are right now.
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28 Sep 2017 11:26 - 28 Sep 2017 11:27 #27 by Markovitch
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He could spend the money instead on bringing in 2 players on loan from Premiership teams who are set for release in the summer. Then if they settle and impress they can be signed up for next year

When does the increase in tv money kick in? Curle will be banging in Jenkins door for his cut of that already. As we already have the position of 'attacking player who seems to do great things in reserve games but never gets on the pitch' position filled with Nabi. I can't see signing a player we have free transferred out once as a great step forward.
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28 Sep 2017 12:58 #28 by Dancingbear
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We’ve got 4 supposed strikers already. What’s the point in giving a 5th £500 a week to play a few bounce games? I’m pleased some of you lot aren’t running the club or it would be bankrupt.

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28 Sep 2017 13:16 - 28 Sep 2017 13:38 #29 by Deano19
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Hallam Hope will be in our top 5 earners (possibly 3)

On Rigg, It would be silly to sign him before Curle had used Nabi & Cosgrove, Or are them two just another waste of a contract.
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28 Sep 2017 13:43 - 28 Sep 2017 14:28 #30 by sirjimmyglass
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Here's what's happened:

Journalist: If Rigg turns looks absolutely fantastic in training, better than all of the other strikers that we've currently got and you could get him on a really cheap deal, would you rule out signing him?

Curle: Again, no, again we wouldn't rule that out, no, listen, again.

THIS ISN'T A STORY YOU IDIOTS.
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28 Sep 2017 13:54 #31 by Deano19
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Manager Keith Curle has not ruled out the possibility of Asamoah - released by United in May - rejoining the club.

But he stressed the current arrangement was all about fitness.

Sounds familiar though

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28 Sep 2017 22:17 #32 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Deano19 wrote: Hallam Hope will be in our top 5 earners (possibly 3)

On Rigg, It would be silly to sign him before Curle had used Nabi & Cosgrove, Or are them two just another waste of a contract.


Dont see any point in signing him on a contract full stop if he's happy to use out facilities etc for free then if we got into a position to need him just get him to sign non contract forms and do it that way.

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29 Sep 2017 22:42 - 29 Sep 2017 22:43 #33 by Micktaitwasard
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Deano19 wrote: Hallam Hope will be in our top 5 earners (possibly 3)

On Rigg, It would be silly to sign him before Curle had used Nabi & Cosgrove, Or are them two just another waste of a contract.


Dont see any point in signing him on a contract full stop if he's happy to use out facilities etc for free then if we got into a position to need him just get him to sign non contract forms and do it that way.


Agree 100%.
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12 Oct 2017 18:54 #34 by CCU
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12 Oct 2017 18:58 - 12 Oct 2017 19:00 #35 by seesaw50
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Eh! ....this true?.....must be I suppose

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12 Oct 2017 19:06 #36 by pedals
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sirjimmyglass wrote: Here's what's happened:

Journalist: If Rigg turns looks absolutely fantastic in training, better than all of the other strikers that we've currently got and you could get him on a really cheap deal, would you rule out signing him?

Curle: Again, no, again we wouldn't rule that out, no, listen, again.

THIS ISN'T A STORY YOU IDIOTS.


YES IT IS YOU IDIOTS
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12 Oct 2017 19:10 #37 by paddockite
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So, this is the Steven Rigg that was released by Curle as he didn't deem him good enough.

He scored just 6 goals in 40 odd games for us, and since has scored 2 goals in 17 games for Barrow and QOTS combined, and hasn't played a competitive game in nearly a year.

This, ladies and gents, is what you call desperation.

What a shambles.

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12 Oct 2017 19:13 #38 by Deano19
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Stop getting at Curle, He's doing tbe best he can with a mid table budget! Rigg knows where the goal is, 6 goals in 42 show that!

Curle is the man to take us forward and he won't waste any of the clubs money.

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12 Oct 2017 19:16 #39 by munchymagic
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This will be interesting how it pans out.

If he can stay injury free then he may just gel with this current squad, best of luck to him anyhow as he always gave his all in the past.

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12 Oct 2017 19:16 #40 by thetashkentterror
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Smacks of nothing but absolute and utter desperation.

If I was Curle I'd have been too embarrassed to even consider it.

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12 Oct 2017 19:19 #41 by Mullen103
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Roddy got the sack when he wanted Ian Stevens back from Barrow. Similar sort of desperation, if we lose on Saturday Curle has to go for me.

Rigg Is crap but to be honest he's a better crap than the strikers we have. Still desperate though.

At least were not Stockport

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12 Oct 2017 19:19 #42 by crunchblue
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It's pure desperation because our £50,000 summer signing striker has turned out to be utter cat shit with no potential to ever make it as a football league player.

Rigg is better than Bennett, and probably better than Cosgrove, so it's a short term thing until January when we can hopefully offload Bennett and sign someone league 2 standard.
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12 Oct 2017 19:25 - 12 Oct 2017 19:31 #43 by Deano19
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First person to say "dont write him off until he's played" can feck off!

I'm writing this off as an awful bit of business, Not good enough 2 year back and only got in the 2014/15 side because Curle refused to play certain players on big wages.

The 2015/16 season Rigg was left behind massively, I like anyone who will give their all for the badge but unfortunately his all isn't good enough.
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12 Oct 2017 19:29 #44 by munchymagic
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Deano19 wrote: First person to say "dont write hin off until he's played" can feck off!

I'm writing this off as an awful bit of business, Not good enough 2 year back and only got in the 2014/15 side because Curle refused to play certain players on big wages.


A bit harsh really, the lad is just trying to get fit and as stated has had other offers - it isn't like Keith has said 'here you go lad have a two year deal'.

I would rather have Rigg than Joachim short term and currently that is all that it is.

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12 Oct 2017 19:31 #45 by Lakelandterrier
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This is a sign that the club is going backwards. Reason for this.. no money and no ambition.

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12 Oct 2017 19:42 #46 by crunchblue
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Deano19 wrote: First person to say "dont write him off until he's played" can feck off!

I'm writing this off as an awful bit of business, Not good enough 2 year back and only got in the 2014/15 side because Curle refused to play certain players on big wages.

The 2015/16 season Rigg was left behind massively, I like anyone who will give their all for the badge but unfortunately his all isn't good enough.


He did get left behind in 15/16 yes, but we had Ibehre, Wyke and Asamoah who were all playing well that season.

Now our set of strikers are no where near that level, so as a short term thing Rigg is an improvement on certainly Bennett and probably Cosgrove. There's not much more we can do until January.

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12 Oct 2017 19:47 #47 by CCU
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Hope he comes in and notches a few personally. Local lad who just wants to play football.

If you’re angry he’s got a deal, aim it at Curle and leave the lad to get on with it...

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12 Oct 2017 20:01 #48 by 182blue
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I'm not going to try to defend Curle, but don't see the harm in signing a local player for a few weeks who will give his all every time he pulls on the shirt.
I'm pleased to see him back and hope he gets his chance.
We've got millions of coaches at the club and I'm not sure what they all do, so the club paying a few quid to Rigg is the least of our worries.
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12 Oct 2017 20:33 #49 by Deano19
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crunchblue wrote:

Deano19 wrote: First person to say "dont write him off until he's played" can feck off!

I'm writing this off as an awful bit of business, Not good enough 2 year back and only got in the 2014/15 side because Curle refused to play certain players on big wages.

The 2015/16 season Rigg was left behind massively, I like anyone who will give their all for the badge but unfortunately his all isn't good enough.


He did get left behind in 15/16 yes, but we had Ibehre, Wyke and Asamoah who were all playing well that season.

Now our set of strikers are no where near that level, so as a short term thing Rigg is an improvement on certainly Bennett and probably Cosgrove. There's not much more we can do until January.


I don't think he is any better than Bennett, just different levels of expectation.

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12 Oct 2017 20:37 #50 by seesaw50
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Maybe his stint for Queens has done him good ,Good Luck to him

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