Steven Pressley Gone

Holdsworth out !!!

pedals wrote: I do think we have the nucleus of a solid side which is far better than what we've been seeing. I think the first three games were an indication of where we realistically should be: the victories against Crawley and Barnsley and the narrow defeat against Swindon. The players have become worse on the whole since the start the season, Pressley scrapped the formation we'd been working on all pre-season, he changed the players every week, seemingly fell out with others at different times (Thomas, McKirdy and so on). The emergence of Branthwaite and Sagaf has been a big positive and I think a change now might bring the best out of some of the others.

I don't think the recruitment was all that bad. The nucleus of a decent team is there if played to its strengths and the next manager doesn't try putting players into a system not suited to them - Bridge springs to mind. Collin, Branthwaite, Jones, Sagaf, McKirdy, Olamola and Thomas have shown that they're capable and if one or two of the others can take stock and find some form then we should have enough to compete with the majority of teams at this level. Webster, as disappointing as he's been, was a regular player in the Championship for a number of seasons and linked with a big money move to Sheffield United prior to his injury at Scunthorpe. I don't think some of the weaker signings are necessarily bad players, they just haven't been able to click here yet for whatever reason. We should be aiming for upper mid-table again realistically.

Agree with this. I think we’ve got some good players, they’ve just been badly managed and poorly coached. Probably need 1 or 2 signings in January especially if we cash in on branthwaite as per the rumours.

I’m looking forward to seeing how far up the league we can go IF we make the right appointment.

hopefully Webster won't make the starting line-up now his best buddy has been shown the door

The Bridge incident yesterday might have been a big decision maker as in not giving your all for the manager but I reckon the timing is a bit out in sacking him so they probably will have someone lined up.

There may be more than meets the eye on Michael Bridges making a recent appearance at BP.

He should've been a gonner in the Summer after the shanful ending to last season. He was woefully out of his depth (Next stop Hearts) who talked a good game but didn't put into practice.

It doesn't matter whose Manager to me as long as the three muppets are still sat in that boardroom clinging on.

bluebry wrote: I got to know Danny Grainger very well when he trained up at Creighton when he was with us. An absolute born leader, did a lot of the stuff that people like West and Dykes should have been doing. Players listened to him, they respected him, and I'm not in the least bit surprised how well he's doing at the Reds.
Maybe a little too soon for him, but I would be willing to give him a bash with Gav as his number two, absolutely no doubt.

Dont think he'd be up for letting Reds down...maybe end of the season,but not now. Skelton should have enough to do the job.

munchymagic wrote: The Bridge incident yesterday might have been a big decision maker as in not giving your all for the manager but I reckon the timing is a bit out in sacking him so they probably will have someone lined up.

Can you tell me what the Bridge incident was for those like me who didn’t attend, watch or listen to the match.

Clearly wasn't working so no surprise and last night though an insignificant comp in some ways was also a way to get more money and also build on recent results so represented another failure. He's never quite managed to build anything.

Not an easy job for anyone but a warhorse needed to do the tough things to make them play. Pressley a great guy but all theory sadly.

crunchblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: The Bridge incident yesterday might have been a big decision maker as in not giving your all for the manager but I reckon the timing is a bit out in sacking him so they probably will have someone lined up.

Can you tell me what the Bridge incident was for those like me who didn’t attend, watch or listen to the match.

Pulled out of a challenge that led to their penalty.

JP was livid, as stated though we all know a player even at park level who doesn't fancy a challenge but at professional level and it is your job then it is criminal.

The incident led to our collapse and helped get Pressley the push, no wonder Curle bombed him off.

munchymagic wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: The Bridge incident yesterday might have been a big decision maker as in not giving your all for the manager but I reckon the timing is a bit out in sacking him so they probably will have someone lined up.

Can you tell me what the Bridge incident was for those like me who didn’t attend, watch or listen to the match.

Pulled out of a challenge that led to their penalty.

JP was livid, as stated though we all know a player even at park level who doesn't fancy a challenge but at professional level and it is your job then it is criminal.

The incident led to our collapse and helped get Pressley the push, no wonder Curle bombed him off.

I heard an interview with him last night on BBC Cumbria sport where Phillips asked him if it was Bridge not going for it with his head that caused it and he deflected the attention from Bridge and put the blame for it on Mo

Am I the only one who doesn’t think last nights defeat got pressley the sack. Surely him staying or going wouldn’t hinge on a leasing trophy group game where we rested most of our players.

I’d hope they had based the decision on the terrible performances at home which has resulted in crowds dropping as well as the poor league position.

It's nice to see CUOSC advocating '' a change at the top'', unfortunately they've started half way down!

He was whingeing a couple of weeks ago about not seeing his family, well he'll be seeing plenty of them now

Maybe I’m just being daft but why are bury fans making comments on Twitter they seem not to like Presley for some reason. Can anyone tell me why

Southernblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: The Bridge incident yesterday might have been a big decision maker as in not giving your all for the manager but I reckon the timing is a bit out in sacking him so they probably will have someone lined up.

Can you tell me what the Bridge incident was for those like me who didn’t attend, watch or listen to the match.

Pulled out of a challenge that led to their penalty.

JP was livid, as stated though we all know a player even at park level who doesn't fancy a challenge but at professional level and it is your job then it is criminal.

The incident led to our collapse and helped get Pressley the push, no wonder Curle bombed him off.

I heard an interview with him last night on BBC Cumbria sport where Phillips asked him if it was Bridge not going for it with his head that caused it and he deflected the attention from Bridge and put the blame for it on Mo

Bridge also didn’t appear very enthusiastic when Branthwaite scored, in contrast to Olomola and several of the others.

Made harsh comments Bout them going bust

aberdeenblue28 wrote: Maybe I’m just being daft but why are bury fans making comments on Twitter they seem not to like Presley for some reason. Can anyone tell me why

Tell them to [censored] off.

aberdeenblue28 wrote: Maybe I’m just being daft but why are bury fans making comments on Twitter they seem not to like Presley for some reason. Can anyone tell me why

Pressley was very vocal at the time Bury collapsed, saying that they brought it on themselves, and deserved to be chucked out of the league etc.
Probably true, but not what Bury fans needed to hear at the time.
Bury fans took exception to his comments.

I prefer to remember Pressley as the snivelling little grass who rang the FA to complain that the home and away dugouts at Swindon were too close together and breaching regulations. (Although this had never been an issue for any other manager that has gone there. Including some of ours when we have won there)
He wasn't happy, so phoned the FA and complained like a big girl.

crunchblue wrote: Am I the only one who doesn’t think last nights defeat got pressley the sack. Surely him staying or going wouldn’t hinge on a leasing trophy group game where we rested most of our players.

I’d hope they had based the decision on the terrible performances at home which has resulted in crowds dropping as well as the poor league position.

It seems strange timing to base it on last night but if the decision was already made and they were waiting for a result to justify it that must mean they expected us to get beat by non league on TV and if they expected that but didn't take action that's even stranger.

All I can say is its absolutely brilliant news. Nothing personal to Mr Pressley, but he has made an absolute balls up of it.

Mammoth wrote:

crunchblue wrote: Am I the only one who doesn’t think last nights defeat got pressley the sack. Surely him staying or going wouldn’t hinge on a leasing trophy group game where we rested most of our players.

I’d hope they had based the decision on the terrible performances at home which has resulted in crowds dropping as well as the poor league position.

It seems strange timing to base it on last night but if the decision was already made and they were waiting for a result to justify it that must mean they expected us to get beat by non league on TV and if they expected that but didn't take action that's even stranger.

I'm just wondering if the board were thinking exactly the same as most fans?
The Macclesfield game proved once and for all we CAN play 442, we CAN play with a flat back four and we CAN play without Webster. So like most of us they were probably despairing when they saw the line up at Dulwich....change the system back to 5 at the back, shoe horn Webster back in and drop one of our most promising young players (Sagaf) and leave Bridge in!!!! (Didn't make much sense to me)
However he got away with it because Dulwich couldn't handle Mc Kirdy and Thomas, but possession wise it was pretty abysmal. So this kind of proved that there was no way he was going to change, there was no way he was going to leave Webster and Bridge out, there was no way he was going to change from his prefered system, and therefore wrote out his own P45.
Just a theory like!!!

Bridge pulled out of a challenge - well, what a surprise!

Anybody seen the footage...some thought it was Elliott

seesaw50 wrote: Anybody seen the footage...some thought it was Elliott

Bridge backs out, then Elliot takes his man.

Bridge mans up doesn’t get to Elliot to jump in both at fault. Problem is bridge repeatedly backs out.

I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

His contract will have certain clauses in it as targets, to get us to the 2nd round of the FA cup, finish 12th in the league or whatever. If one of those was to get through the group stages of the Checkatrade they can ditch him with minimum compensation as he has failed to achieve what he signed up for.
Always a shame when someone gets the sack but I genuinely feel he could do better with the players he has. If money is going to be available at Christmas because of McCarron, Galloway and Branthwaite I wouldn't trust him to use it wisely

What we need is a manager with cash that will invest time and money for shares THE SPECIAL ONE springs to mind!!!

shaldon1 wrote: What we need is a manager with cash that will invest time and money for shares THE SPECIAL ONE springs to mind!!!

Martin Wilkinson ?

The only reason I can think about the timing of his sacking is that the cheque from the FA must have cleared either the night before or that very morning.

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Not someone who you would like to get on the wrong side of but as we all know player power is too strong in this day and age even at Carlisle United it would seem as they didn't listen to a word he said.

As for the interviews, you keep getting beat you get the same questions - same as if you keep winning.

Nothing was as bizarre as when Keith burst into song however.

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Funny you saying this now, coz watching him in the touchline he sometimes went off in a real rant at some player not following orders maybe...going down in a lunge and gesticulating wildly.......but spoke very quietly and measured.

Not gonna miss his "in these moments" and "some good aspects to our play" phrases.

He talked a load of waffle and jargon in the interviews I saw, I’m not really one for managers interviews in general. Constantly talking about “green shoots” when they was no sign of improvement whatsoever. Talking about high press and high tempo when there was little sign of this style of play. Talking about amazing and terrific performances after defeats, again he seemed to be the only one to see this. Final straw for me was when he was championing the fact his players had ran the most distances and pressed the furthest after the defeat to Northampton, what a load of utter nonsense!

He over-complicated things to a ridiculous level, playing players in unfamiliar positions in unfamiliar formations and wondering why they weren’t doing their jobs properly. Heard off someone last weekend who knows Skelton’s missus that Pressley never switches off from football, he’s obsessed with it and with stats and data, obviously so much to the level that he over-complicates the game.

franksidebottom wrote: He talked a load of waffle and jargon in the interviews I saw, I’m not really one for managers interviews in general. Constantly talking about “green shoots” when they was no sign of improvement whatsoever. Talking about high press and high tempo when there was little sign of this style of play. Talking about amazing and terrific performances after defeats, again he seemed to be the only one to see this. Final straw for me was when he was championing the fact his players had ran the most distances and pressed the furthest after the defeat to Northampton, what a load of utter nonsense!

He over-complicated things to a ridiculous level, playing players in unfamiliar positions in unfamiliar formations and wondering why they weren’t doing their jobs properly. Heard off someone last weekend who knows Skelton’s missus that Pressley never switches off from football, he’s obsessed with it and with stats and data, obviously so much to the level that he over-complicates the game.

He needs to calm down, but must be thinking now, have I got what it takes to be a successful manager?!.....nothing in his record to suggest he has am afraid.

Edit to add: cant be easy being away from home up here when the family are miles away to be fair

munchymagic wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Not someone who you would like to get on the wrong side of but as we all know player power is too strong in this day and age even at Carlisle United it would seem as they didn't listen to a word he said.

As for the interviews, you keep getting beat you get the same questions - same as if you keep winning.

Nothing was as bizarre as when Keith burst into song however.

I think the problem was they were listening to him!

I take it he reads this board as did anyone notice on the tv before the FA Cup game he mentioned 'green shoots' and then started laughing and mumbling something as in he knew that folk had picked him up on saying it.

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Oh well then, that must be right.
When a team is struggling the manager’s press conferences lead to fans gettting angry because the manager is either passionless, aggressive, rambling , cliched, deluded etc.
They count for nowt and are a poor way to judge someone’s character.

182blue wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Oh well then, that must be right.
When a team is struggling the manager’s press conferences lead to fans gettting angry because the manager is either passionless, aggressive, rambling , cliched, deluded etc.
They count for nowt and are a poor way to judge someone’s character.

I disagree totally - the perfect way to assess someones character is to see how they react under pressure.

All managers are a laugh a minute when they win but personally I noted how arrogant and nasty Abbott and Pressley were at times after a defeat.

If a commentator is asking you the same questions every week when the results are the same then beat him at his own game and give exactly the same answers that you did the previous week to show your frustration - the commentators boss would probably then have a word in his ear asking what did you expect when you came into it at exactly the same angle as last time?

Have seen the likes of Guardiola, Ferguson and Wenger have a total paddy after a bad result, but then other times they seem very likeable characters and were/are all excellent managers.
Personally, I think Phillips is a dreadful journalist and who wouldn’t get sick of his silly questions?
I don’t think any of us would get very far in life if we judged everyone we met by their behaviour when they were under pressure.

182blue wrote: Have seen the likes of Guardiola, Ferguson and Wenger have a total paddy after a bad result, but then other times they seem very likeable characters and were/are all excellent managers.
Personally, I think Phillips is a dreadful journalist and who wouldn’t get sick of his silly questions?
I don’t think any of us would get very far in life if we judged everyone we met by their behaviour when they were under pressure.

I personally like to know who I could trust in the trenches with me.

182blue wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

182blue wrote: I am sad to see him go and would have liked to see him have a little bit more time to turn things round.
I don’t have a problem at all with the view that performances haven’t been good enough.
Bridge was very much his blind spot. He isn’t good enough and don’t know why he couldn’t see it.
Ok , he maybe acted like a dick in a couple of post-match interviews but so do many others.
He wasn’t going to lead us to glory but then previous managers didn’t either.
Wish him well. He was nothing but a decent bloke, trying his best to do a good job.

He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

Oh well then, that must be right.
When a team is struggling the manager’s press conferences lead to fans gettting angry because the manager is either passionless, aggressive, rambling , cliched, deluded etc.
They count for nowt and are a poor way to judge someone’s character.

As I said in my original comment, I’m not just judging him by his on-air treatment of people.

182blue wrote: Have seen the likes of Guardiola, Ferguson and Wenger have a total paddy after a bad result, but then other times they seem very likeable characters and were/are all excellent managers.
Personally, I think Phillips is a dreadful journalist and who wouldn’t get sick of his silly questions?
I don’t think any of us would get very far in life if we judged everyone we met by their behaviour when they were under pressure.

Although he came across as a nice bloke if things were going his way Ferguson was a bully who was ruthless with people if they dared question him or he didn’t get his own way. He tried taking Magnier and McManus on and was well and truly put in his place - good enough for him.

We also need the other SP at the club to be kicked out.

franksidebottom wrote: He wasn’t a decent bloke towards Radio Cumbria both on air and off air. Apparently a strange bloke who isn’t to be crossed.

On the Radio Cumbria sports show last night James Phillips was asked what he thought Steven Pressley would do next.......... The reply was "Not interested .. could`nt care less.!

Just shows what a bitter lovers tiff can do to you.

Which bloody idiot made the decision to reward him with a new contract at the end of last season? He was out of contract after doing a terrible job. Now we’re having to pay him off when we could have got rid 5 months ago at no cost. IDIOTS!!

That person or people should stand down out of shame for such a terrible decision.

Agreed. Blatantly obvious he wasnt doing a good job. So who gave him an extended contract?

crunchblue wrote: Which bloody idiot made the decision to reward him with a new contract at the end of last season? He was out of contract after doing a terrible job. Now we’re having to pay him off when we could have got rid 5 months ago at no cost. IDIOTS!!

That person or people should stand down out of shame for such a terrible decision.

If the rumour was right that that SP worked for free for six month last season then it hasn`t cost us anything .

He should have been paid it in the first place.

What sort of decent company would let you work for nothing.!

Just don’t believe that for one second.

Sammy Taylor wrote:

crunchblue wrote: Which bloody idiot made the decision to reward him with a new contract at the end of last season? He was out of contract after doing a terrible job. Now we’re having to pay him off when we could have got rid 5 months ago at no cost. IDIOTS!!

That person or people should stand down out of shame for such a terrible decision.

If the rumour was right that that SP worked for free for six month last season then it hasn`t cost us anything .

He should have been paid it in the first place.

What sort of decent company would let you work for nothing.!

"What sort of decent company would let you work for nothing.!"

Get Kes on the case - it will probably only take a couple of Pressleys wage slips proving this to get the legal ball rolling.