The Brexit Thread

You know 310 votes were cast on each side, right?

Maybe one of the 30 MPs that never bothered to vote should have bothered themselves to change the course of history. Suppose, after all, that is their job.

But it wasn’t just her vote was it? How come your focus is on the black, female, Labour miscreant and not on anyone else who really shouldn’t have the right to vote on issues of national interest? Plenty of them there if you chose to look.

Your focus seems to be a bit ‘narrow’ when it suits.

There are many people in the house who really shouldn’t be allowed to vote and I agree she is one but come on...

She is the only one who has been sacked by her party for fraud and is in the process of being sacked by her constituents via a by-election.That is my point.

Her origin, colour etc is totally irrelevant-that she described herself as the new Jesus in her defence of her conviction for fraud may however have influenced my line of thinking.

She could have been a Tory for all I care.

Few in vote leave have behaved fraudulently - they've admitted as such but appear to be Teflon when it comes to actually being culpable? Is promising £350m for the NHS better or worse than lying about who was driving. Or is it okay if you get away with fraud as opposed to being convicted of it?

Some politicians will benefit personally as a consequence of the way they vote, some stand to make millions from investing in a certain way and then voting for that course of events - better or worse than lying about a motoring offence?

One thing for sure of is that on both sides there will be people on both sides 'guilty' of much worse than the demented woman you have chosen to highlight.

Noted Moyelsey but only one who has been formally convicted and sent down at vast taxpayer expense as she refused to accept any guilt-that gives the local electorate the right to petition to force a by-election which is in train.

Her reason for hanging around?She needs a job!

How far can we fall?Is that a reason for standing for election?

If she'd voted the other way there's no way in hell you'd be complaining about it.

That’s a very good point Jimmy-one to you!

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CCU wrote: They must be getting sick of voting!

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Well, there's 313 MP.s who've just signed their own death warrants.

I really do hope people aren't going to get high and mighty when the people take power and teach these [censored] what "will of the people" means.

Might be a few get home at the weekend only to find their houses have burnt down.

But isn't it great to know that as a country we've elected 313 spineless [censored].

Just so you are clear - there won’t be any houses burnt down.

Also - perhaps you could explain what the will of the people is? I keep hearing this term, will of the people. Load of nonsense if you ask me.

Is the will of the people and extremely hard Brexit? A no deal Brexit? A soft Brexit?

Nobody knows, as the question was badly (never) asked and the campaign was built on nothing but lies.

The Government spent £9m printing a leaflet that explicitly said that a vote to leave the EU meant the U.K. would leave the customs union, leave the single market. You can even watch various politicians of the time on YouTube saying it, it couldn’t have been any clearer, so, yes, that’s what people voted for.

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On the other hand, you could say they voted for all of these wonderful snippets of Brexiteers with different versions of what Brexit means to whatever this "will of the people" is meant to be.

Of course you won't actually follow the link or take any notice of it, because why would you? It doesn't fit the remoaner/project fear/Corbyn is totally at fault for all of this (?!?!?!?!?!) so bury your head back in that sand and wait for the ferries to turn up.

If you’re talking to me, please point out where l said l was waiting for ferries to turn up or where I said Corbyn was at fault.

The Irish are at it again-telling us what to do on C4 news.The fact is a no deal would utterly destroy their economy.They will also have responsibility for their own border-nothing to do with the other 26 countries they are relying on.

Careful Laffy. You'll soon be running out of people to lay the blame on.

Wee nippy, Labour, the PIGS, the Irish etc etc.

Maybe time to look closer to home?

And tatties we export to them laffy are gonna be held up or price hiked with tariffs...could this be history repeating itself

Laffy wrote: The Irish are at it again-telling us what to do on C4 news.The fact is a no deal would utterly destroy their economy.They will also have responsibility for their own border-nothing to do with the other 26 countries they are relying on.

Yeah but Mrs Merkels been a calling today, didn't you say she'd come up trumps and sort it out

She's come with the Wall plans apparently

I think the real villains are the like of Junker and Tusk et al

If they had bowed slightly to Cameron on a few, what now seem like fairly uncontentious issues, freedom of movement the main one and one the UK had plenty of support for in Europe,we would not be in the state we are now.

Arrogant, contemptuous and totally disdainful to not one, but two UK prime ministers.

Hopefully the architects of their own downfall.

I think I did say two things about Germany

-their economy is about to fall off a cliff so look at the headlines today.I think this has been brewing for a while and a look at inventory levels confirms it.Germany are the key component/driver of the EU economy and;

-Merkel would eventually intervene, likely on the back of above.

I’m not blaming the Irish but they are playing a very high risk game.It only takes one country to break rank and say no to a longer Brexit and we have a No deal Brexit.That would be catastrophic for them.So I would be expecting them to do everything in their power to avoid a no deal Brexit, and that doesn’t mean no Brexit.

The lack of flexibility on the EU’s part is absolutely mind blowing and how they hold all 27 together is beyond comprehension.

Not that difficult Laffy, most of them fairly tinpot and will do as they're told so the big players don't turn off the money tap.

That's exactly right they know which side their bread is buttered so to seek the opinions of the "27" as is always trotted out, really is code for Germany and France take the decisions !

seesaw50 wrote: That's exactly right they know which side their bread is buttered so to seek the opinions of the "27" as is always trotted out, really is code for Germany and France take the decisions !

Yup! It's ALL about the money!

Anyone watching the BBC news will now see the EU peering into the abyss of the no deal scenario-led by Merkel.

We should hold our nerve and demand a solution to the backstop issue now-

Tory ministers discussed yesterday a second referendum according to the Telegraph

I'm really sick of this now... mishandling doesn't come close....will it ever happen

Another extension asked for

"If a long extension leaves us stuck in the EU we should be as difficult as possible. We could veto any increase in the budget, obstruct the putative EU army and block Mr Macron’s integrationist schemes."

What an absolute prick this bloke is.

Interesting to note there, too, that he appears to be suggesting that the UK has power to influence EU decisions while we're a member of the union.

What a turn of events.

Great chance for the anti europe parties to get stuck in get it right between them and it could be a proper kicking for labour and the tories .

Farraj: "Plz keep me on gravy trane"

His new party will be scrapping for the same votes as UKIP so it'll end badly (even though european elections are PR-based)

orfc wrote: Farraj: "Plz keep me on gravy trane"

His new party will be scrapping for the same votes as UKIP so it'll end badly (even though european elections are PR-based)

Give over orfc - he is a winner.

Whether Parliament scupper his win remains to be seen however.

The "talks" are going badly between Labour and Tories....nothing being changed on Tory side apparently they moan.
Are they not looking too far ahead tho...all they have to do is promise to vote for the Withdrawal Agreement to get us out....the rest comes later

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CCU wrote: They must be getting sick of voting!

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MPs vote by majority of one to force UK PM to ask for Brexit extension to avoid any no deal scenario bbc.in/2UeX47Q

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Well, there's 313 MP.s who've just signed their own death warrants.

I really do hope people aren't going to get high and mighty when the people take power and teach these [censored] what "will of the people" means.

Might be a few get home at the weekend only to find their houses have burnt down.

But isn't it great to know that as a country we've elected 313 spineless [censored].

Just so you are clear - there won’t be any houses burnt down.

Also - perhaps you could explain what the will of the people is? I keep hearing this term, will of the people. Load of nonsense if you ask me.

Is the will of the people and extremely hard Brexit? A no deal Brexit? A soft Brexit?

Nobody knows, as the question was badly (never) asked and the campaign was built on nothing but lies.

I think your mixing us up with them [censored] who had their protest a couple of Saturdays ago.

You clearly haven't a clue what's going on here on the streets

We have 3 Tory MP.s here in Lancashire crapping themselves and hiring private security firms now do you think that happens because somebody sent them a nasty e.mail ? is it [censored] its because me and my colleagues get in them and their family's faces resulting in the fact that all 3 of them [despite doing the opposite earlier in the campaign] have now been supporting NO DEAL.

Yesterday that idiot police chiefs claims were put to the test [ 10.000 plod my arse ] and not one of them got a response of less than 10 minutes just how long do they think it takes to do a Jo Cox ?

Moylesey wrote: But it wasn’t just her vote was it? How come your focus is on the black, female, Labour miscreant and not on anyone else who really shouldn’t have the right to vote on issues of national interest? Plenty of them there if you chose to look.

Your focus seems to be a bit ‘narrow’ when it suits.

There are many people in the house who really shouldn’t be allowed to vote and I agree she is one but come on...

What I don't get is if shes tagged because she's out on an early release licence she will also have a curfew imposed.

Maybe someone can tell me exactly what time that vote took place but i.m pretty sure it was well after 7pm which is the usual limit imposed.

Moylesey wrote: Few in vote leave have behaved fraudulently - they've admitted as such but appear to be Teflon when it comes to actually being culpable? Is promising £350m for the NHS better or worse than lying about who was driving. Or is it okay if you get away with fraud as opposed to being convicted of it?

Some politicians will benefit personally as a consequence of the way they vote, some stand to make millions from investing in a certain way and then voting for that course of events - better or worse than lying about a motoring offence?

One thing for sure of is that on both sides there will be people on both sides 'guilty' of much worse than the demented woman you have chosen to highlight.

You've clearly been suckered in Moylesey Lad which I find a bit strange.

Yes, there were plenty of promises made like the NHS one all of which are easily affordable with the money we.ll save by leaving the EU But I challenge you to find anywhere where anyone has ever said they call be afforded at the same time out of the Brexit bonus.

The more astute amongst us saw them as a list of possible options and not a list of definite promises a sort of list where in an ideal world the people could do a bit of pick and mix you know a bit of one a touch of the other but no one ever said Brexit would allow you to scoff the whole bloody display at once for gods sake.

CCU wrote: Merkel is just worried about how many extra £bn’s Germany will have to lob in the pot if we leave with no deal!

Apparently when we leave only 9 out of the remaining 27 countries will be above the line to contribute extra and France and Germanys share will be more than 50% of it.

Yet they use a different formula to determine how they will divvy up what were Britains seats in the EU Parliament Germany get 9 and France 5 thats a long way from 50% surely it can't be long and Merkel and Macron realise just what's happening.

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"If a long extension leaves us stuck in the EU we should be as difficult as possible. We could veto any increase in the budget, obstruct the putative EU army and block Mr Macron’s integrationist schemes."

What an absolute prick this bloke is.

In your small minded opinion

To 52% of us [ you know the winners, the moral majority, those whose opinion is the will of the people ] he.s absolutely spot on

And if we do just that and [censored] them up completely a year from now Tusk and Junker will be begging us to leave on whatever terms we like.

Both UKIP and Big Nige have a whole shedload of candidates waiting to be elected to do just that.

orfc wrote: Farraj: "Plz keep me on gravy trane"

His new party will be scrapping for the same votes as UKIP so it'll end badly (even though european elections are PR-based)

Actually, they won't be as they've already agreed to fight a " mutually beneficial " campaign.

Be interesting to see if Farage puts anybody up against Tommy Rob as its pretty sure UKIP won't be doing.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caitlin-moran...7dccfee84d1b2674fea4

Oh bless poor mps turning to drink over eating and getting stress counciling .

Wierd how shafting 17.4 million takes its toll isnt it my sympathy if [censored] zero .

Only 2 questions tonight Al.
What blood pressure pills are you taking?
Have you had a medication review recently?

howoldboy wrote: Only 2 questions tonight Al.
What blood pressure pills are you taking?
Have you had a medication review recently?

He climbs [censored] mountains for fun so I guess that if he had any defects, even in his limbs then they surely would have shown up by now

Over 2,500 replies on this topic and NS must have made over a thousand of them, so he must be right..

Lets hope Macron is a man of his word and says 'non' to Theresa.

Makes me laugh Alan when people symbolise Brexit with the Union Flag, given Brexit is ultimately going to lead to the break up of the Union!

Is it?

orfc wrote: Brexit has May snookered so it looks like she'll be reaching for the long extension for her next shot

The extension's set up, just waiting for the tip to be chalked by the sound of it

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/09...been-met-says-berlin

Suppose those bottles of champagne that are on ice will have to become vintage.

whytakemypostcode wrote: Makes me laugh Alan when people symbolise Brexit with the Union Flag, given Brexit is ultimately going to lead to the break up of the Union!

I posted the flag because Im proud to be British.

There's plenty who aren't and who rather dickride junker and Co.

Orfc.
Stick to match day threads they are slightly less embarrassing than your input on here but it's marginal at best.