18/19 - Forest Green (A) Match Thread

I ask one simple question to BBC Radio Cumbria by text as to why Pressley does not know the Bennett contract situation and because of the mauling that JP got from Pressley mid-week he cowardly avoided the question and read out about eight 'safe' Nobbyblue texts instead

In the 18 month he was at B P Ritchie played a total of 58 matches and scored 12 goals , he`s had his chance but proved not good enough...perhaps we could have waited until the end of January before allowing him to go out on loan.

James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

munchymagic wrote: I ask one simple question to BBC Radio Cumbria by text as to why Pressley does not know the Bennett contract situation and because of the mauling that JP got from Pressley mid-week he cowardly avoided the question and read out about eight 'safe' Nobbyblue texts instead

You cheeky [censored]. All my comments are cutting edge.

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

Well if JP dares to question Pressley's changing the formation and the likes midweek and gets ripped a new one then he is hardly going to be daring enough to call him a thick [censored] for not knowing the situation regarding one of his own players, a striker when he has none makes it worse.

Regardless of peoples views on Bennett - the manager does not even know his situation and that makes him on the same brain level of Kavanagh in my book, please not him for the long term.

Pressley and Holdsworth seem to have formed an alliance unfortunately.

Markovitch wrote: When is Arthur back?

Arthur who?

Oh that Arthur....forget him that ship has sailed

I have to say that was a very good performance indeed today and it really was a hugely enjoyable game.
Certainly the best I've seen in the Pressley era.
God only knows how we didn't win that 3 or 4-1.
Some really, really good stuff at times, particularly in the first hour or so.
At half time it felt like you'd been kicked in the goolies. We'd completely dominated yet somehow were behind.
Hard to really explain quite how we didn't win that but probably a combination of poor finishing, bad luck, chances falling to the wrong people and some inspired goalkeeping.
Tempting to think that with a number 9 in the starting line up we'd probably have won that one.
Regan Slater, Callum O'Hare and Nathan Thomas were all, at times, superb.
Slater seems to be more comfortable now with the ugly side of things and like on Saturday started really well.
Every game now O'Hare is improving. Now he's further forward he's flourishing.
My first time to FGR and being so close to the pitch you see just how much he wants the ball. All the time. Always showing, always keen.
That decision making, at times isn't quite there just yet but I thought positionally he was great. Always looking to get into space, offering a good angle and position to receive a pass.
Real shame he hasn't a player ahead of him to slot balls through to...
Could write an essay on Thomas. My kind of player. I grew up on Coppell, John Robertson and the peerless Davie Cooper at Celtic.
He is a real handful. Pacy, great drop of the shoulder an quick feet. Can imagine him playing much higher up than Div 4 if he could somehow bottle the magic moments and produce them more often.
He controlled the ball a couple of times today when I thought that no other player on the pitch could have managed.
You can imagine being a fullback and being concerned about the afternoon ahead.
He should really have scored a hat-trick. A centre forward may have done but that's what you get from wingers.
Almost by trade they are streaky. The keeper got out quickly for 1 chance, a very heavy touch spoilt another but the finished well for the goal.
If they can somehow manage to coax a performance out of him where he gets to play at his best he'll win games for us.
Devitt played well but faded a little as the game wore on. Such a lovely footballer to watch. It's such a shame he hasn't that player to slip a ball through to anymore.
It was really good to see the side taking pot shots from 20 or so yards. I lost count of the times we had efforts from this distance and it's the right thing to do with the current line up.
Mike Jones coming back was excellent. Really very good indeed. Very calm holding it together. Playing a little bit deeper, almost moving back 5 or 10 yards as he's gotten a bit older.
I honestly thought the whole side played well.
Great being so close to the pitch as you can really hear Gerrard screaming at Slater and Thomas.
He's such a class act, Gerrard. For someone of his size he's remarkable really.
Positionally he is top drawer. I think it's just an instinctive thing. You get a feel for things and he has it in spades. Time and time again at Carlisle he is just there. Over and over again.
For me, I came away with the hope reinstated. The 2 dropped points is of less significance.
It was such an exciting, promising performance that I think even a defeat would have left you walking away thinking that the side has a chance.
Even without a number 9.
Can't turn the clock back but a Nadesan or a Yates would be licking their lips with the supply line they would now have.
Play like this for the next 2 months and we'll be in the play offs.

newcarlislefan wrote: Play like this for the next 2 months and we'll be in the play offs.

I love your match reviews - so positive. However, if we don't find ourselves a real number 9, we won't be anywhere near the play-offs. I wonder if Kennedy could be the answer...

Reading the BBC report their goalkeeper was outstanding.

Cambridge is now a must win - away draws as has been said are only decent if we win our home matches. This is a bonus point from my points predictions for the rest of the season but to get in the pay offs we need about 6 bonus points.

Yes, can't disagree with that. It could well do for us this year and if you were a betting man you'd probably say that as of right now having no centre forward will prevent us getting into the play offs.
But, I did think that today, even without a number 9 the attacking threat was potent. It really was.
We probably won't score that many in the box with this current side but we are a handful in that final third.
I think we probably won't face a better keeper than we did today though. I couldn't believe he saved the one from Parkes, I think, i the 2nd half.
The thing for me is, having seen FGR and Colchester recently, is that they are playing as up and down as we are.
There's 1 maybe 2 places up for grabs in the play offs and despite everything we have a shout.
It's a real crying shame we haven't a centre forward. Having O'Hare and Devitt in the side is almost criminal without someone to play the ball through to.
I really liked Doidge today. He didn't have a great game but he beat Gerrard to a couple of headers, which very few players do, and he was a threat, Would love to see him in our side.

So sounds like Pressley got the performance he wanted today, if not the result it deserved.

That’s good, but if we don’t put in a convincing performance and result against Cambridge next week then it will be worrying.

chedderbob247 wrote: Also, as I pointed out to you a number of weeks ago. He has no interest in player contracts. He was quite open with the fact the the training pitch is where he sees his work.

Well given the results since he arrived what he.s doing there clearly isn't working either then

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

chedderbob247 wrote: Also, as I pointed out to you a number of weeks ago. He has no interest in player contracts. He was quite open with the fact the the training pitch is where he sees his work.

Well given the results since he arrived what he.s doing there clearly isn't working either then

More like he is a lazy [censored].

What have the club got to lose by taking on a free agent striker until the end of the season, maybe they won’t turn out to be any good but they would at least give us another option.

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

And made at least have a dozen factual mistakes during today's game one of which was saying the Wales v Ireland game was taking place in Dublin. If I think hard enough i.ll probably be able to remember the rest. But i.d love to see the text he.ll have got from his boss after taking the piss when WHU went behind. And yes he seemed very contrite and polite in his interview today after the verbal f u.c#k.in g he got on Tuesday night.

And what was even more strange was that given they had loads of time to fill before and after the game not a single mention of the accounts release yesterday it was as if there was some sort of agreed embargo not to talk about it.

munchymagic wrote:

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

Well if JP dares to question Pressley's changing the formation and the likes midweek and gets ripped a new one then he is hardly going to be daring enough to call him a thick [censored] for not knowing the situation regarding one of his own players, a striker when he has none makes it worse.

Regardless of peoples views on Bennett - the manager does not even know his situation and that makes him on the same brain level of Kavanagh in my book, please not him for the long term.

Pressley and Holdsworth seem to have formed an alliance unfortunately.

Let's hope so then we can get rid of both in the summer when Holdsworth nails his colours to Pressley's mast and the fans say it a promotion or off you go Elvis and take your mate Colonel Tom Holdsworth with you.

Cracking goal from Thomas tho today..credit where credit's due

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

And made at least have a dozen factual mistakes during today's game one of which was saying the Wales v Ireland game was taking place in Dublin. If I think hard enough i.ll probably be able to remember the rest. But i.d love to see the text he.ll have got from his boss after taking the piss when WHU went behind. And yes he seemed very contrite and polite in his interview today after the verbal f u.c#k.in g he got on Tuesday night.

And what was even more strange was that given they had loads of time to fill before and after the game not a single mention of the accounts release yesterday it was as if there was some sort of agreed embargo not to talk about it.

Just goes to show that when his boss isn't there he takes the easy option every time which is a shame that he needs to be 'managed' to that extent as it shows a weak underbelly.

Filtering through positive texts and slightly negative things and ignoring glaring things in his own interview because he could is shocking, he needs a boss beside him to give him a nudge obviously.

Really cowardly not jumping on that ridiculous comment himself when Pressley mentioned it and then he tried to cover it up by not answering any messages about it was just embarrassing - very poor.

He may as well just lick Pressleys arse because we could have played like Barcelona today but we got held 1-1 by [censored] Forest Green and he is behaving like we are back on track for the top three.

He would not have read this one out either as it was not sugar coated enough for him and lacks compliments.

munchymagic wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

And made at least have a dozen factual mistakes during today's game one of which was saying the Wales v Ireland game was taking place in Dublin. If I think hard enough i.ll probably be able to remember the rest. But i.d love to see the text he.ll have got from his boss after taking the piss when WHU went behind. And yes he seemed very contrite and polite in his interview today after the verbal f u.c#k.in g he got on Tuesday night.

And what was even more strange was that given they had loads of time to fill before and after the game not a single mention of the accounts release yesterday it was as if there was some sort of agreed embargo not to talk about it.

Just goes to show that when his boss isn't there he takes the easy option every time which is a shame that he needs to be 'managed' to that extent as it shows a weak underbelly.

Filtering through positive texts and slightly negative things and ignoring glaring things in his own interview because he could is shocking, he needs a boss beside him to give him a nudge obviously.

Really cowardly not jumping on that ridiculous comment himself when Pressley mentioned it and then he tried to cover it up by not answering any messages about it was just embarrassing - very poor.

He may as well just lick Pressleys arse because we could have played like Barcelona today but we got held 1-1 by [censored] Forest Green and he is behaving like we are back on track for the top three.

He would not have read this one out either as it was not sugar coated enough for him and lacks compliments.

And all that shite online yesterday about his Mrs being depressed all over the BBC but surprisingly in every article, they forgot to mention he works for them but it at least explains why hes such a miserable [censored] and why he posts all that feminist crap all over his twitter account.

Maybe somebody needs to tell him when they start that crap you just start going out on the piss and leaving motts messages on your phone and they.ll soon buck their ideas up or [censored] off, either way, you're the winner.

ncf,, somebody messaged radio cumbria that some players where swearing at each other after match, did you hear anything

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dazzyblue wrote: James Philips is a grade a c0ck, an arse licker of the highest order. That bad I won't even listen to him anymore. Reads selective texts etc out and that's all, any negativity or input that he dislikes he just won't comment on it and dodges it.

And made at least have a dozen factual mistakes during today's game one of which was saying the Wales v Ireland game was taking place in Dublin. If I think hard enough i.ll probably be able to remember the rest. But i.d love to see the text he.ll have got from his boss after taking the piss when WHU went behind. And yes he seemed very contrite and polite in his interview today after the verbal f u.c#k.in g he got on Tuesday night.

And what was even more strange was that given they had loads of time to fill before and after the game not a single mention of the accounts release yesterday it was as if there was some sort of agreed embargo not to talk about it.

Just goes to show that when his boss isn't there he takes the easy option every time which is a shame that he needs to be 'managed' to that extent as it shows a weak underbelly.

Filtering through positive texts and slightly negative things and ignoring glaring things in his own interview because he could is shocking, he needs a boss beside him to give him a nudge obviously.

Really cowardly not jumping on that ridiculous comment himself when Pressley mentioned it and then he tried to cover it up by not answering any messages about it was just embarrassing - very poor.

He may as well just lick Pressleys arse because we could have played like Barcelona today but we got held 1-1 by [censored] Forest Green and he is behaving like we are back on track for the top three.

He would not have read this one out either as it was not sugar coated enough for him and lacks compliments.

And all that shite online yesterday about his Mrs being depressed all over the BBC but surprisingly in every article, they forgot to mention he works for them but it at least explains why hes such a miserable [censored] and why he posts all that feminist crap all over his twitter account.

Maybe somebody needs to tell him when they start that crap you just start going out on the piss and leaving motts messages on your phone and they.ll soon buck their ideas up or [censored] off, either way, you're the winner.

Are you still working for the Samaritans NS ?

I was at the end where the teams came out and where both goals were scored and was right next to the pitch. The players were right up for the game and you could hear the players shouting and giving instructions to each other throughout. There was certainly words said after the goal and when mistakes were made but wasn’t that what Sheridan said was lacking in our players.
I heard nothing after the game and I stayed right until the left the pitch.

We heard you first time.

And the 5th time

When I pressed submit I also created two identical threads.
Anyway back to topic.
That was our best performance under Pressley. I was gutted at half time we had dominated so much. But the second half to be was more impressive against a very strong wind. We pressured and contained FGR and broke with purpose and control. Yes, we should have scored more but their (reserve) keeper was outstanding. Speaking to FGR fans, after the game they said it was an unbelievable goalkeeping performance from him and we were unlucky not to win comfortably.

wano wrote: ncf,, somebody messaged radio cumbria that some players where swearing at each other after match, did you hear anything

I didn't hear any of that. I was standing so was away a bit from the corner they walked off to but there was a lot of anger and dejection at the end.
What I did notice was Gerrard laying into people throughout the game.
He was screaming at Jones after the goal. I didn't quite see how the build up progressed to that but I'm guessing by his reaction that Jones lost his man.
He was screaming at Slater as well a lot and as they walked off Gerrard , as well as a few others, looked really pi**ed off and he was chuntering away.
The side needs someone like him doing this in games to keep others on their toes and to dish out some verbals and it was good to see the side walking off angry and upset as we murdered FGR.
Daylight robbery to just come away with a point really.

newcarlislefan wrote:

wano wrote: ncf,, somebody messaged radio cumbria that some players where swearing at each other after match, did you hear anything

I didn't hear any of that. I was standing so was away a bit from the corner they walked off to but there was a lot of anger and dejection at the end.
What I did notice was Gerrard laying into people throughout the game.
He was screaming at Jones after the goal. I didn't quite see how the build up progressed to that but I'm guessing by his reaction that Jones lost his man.
He was screaming at Slater as well a lot and as they walked off Gerrard , as well as a few others, looked really pi**ed off[ and he was chuntering away.
The side needs someone like him doing this in games to keep others on their toes and to dish out some verbals and it was good to see the side walking off angry and upset as we murdered FGR.
Daylight robbery to just come away with a point really.

I'm pleased to hear it. It was a point yesterday but you couldn't call it a fantastic result given the way the game panned out. Gerrard isn't perfect by any means but at least he's got a bit about him and wouldn't be happy with a draw.

That's right, Nobby.
It wasn't a fantastic result - it was hugely disappointing.
But, I actually came away thinking that if we can somehow put in performances like that for the rest of the season we might have a sniff.
After the Swindon game, despite the win, can't say I felt that optimistic.
Seeing that yesterday gave me renewed hope.
It's just a crying shame we are probably the only side in the division without a recognised number 9 as the supply line is looking very tasty.

newcarlislefan wrote: I have to say that was a very good performance indeed today and it really was a hugely enjoyable game.
Certainly the best I've seen in the Pressley era.
God only knows how we didn't win that 3 or 4-1.
Some really, really good stuff at times, particularly in the first hour or so.
At half time it felt like you'd been kicked in the goolies. We'd completely dominated yet somehow were behind.
Hard to really explain quite how we didn't win that but probably a combination of poor finishing, bad luck, chances falling to the wrong people and some inspired goalkeeping.
Tempting to think that with a number 9 in the starting line up we'd probably have won that one.
Regan Slater, Callum O'Hare and Nathan Thomas were all, at times, superb.
Slater seems to be more comfortable now with the ugly side of things and like on Saturday started really well.
Every game now O'Hare is improving. Now he's further forward he's flourishing.
My first time to FGR and being so close to the pitch you see just how much he wants the ball. All the time. Always showing, always keen.
That decision making, at times isn't quite there just yet but I thought positionally he was great. Always looking to get into space, offering a good angle and position to receive a pass.
Real shame he hasn't a player ahead of him to slot balls through to...
Could write an essay on Thomas. My kind of player. I grew up on Coppell, John Robertson and the peerless Davie Cooper at Celtic.
He is a real handful. Pacy, great drop of the shoulder an quick feet. Can imagine him playing much higher up than Div 4 if he could somehow bottle the magic moments and produce them more often.
He controlled the ball a couple of times today when I thought that no other player on the pitch could have managed.
You can imagine being a fullback and being concerned about the afternoon ahead.
He should really have scored a hat-trick. A centre forward may have done but that's what you get from wingers.
Almost by trade they are streaky. The keeper got out quickly for 1 chance, a very heavy touch spoilt another but the finished well for the goal.
If they can somehow manage to coax a performance out of him where he gets to play at his best he'll win games for us.
Devitt played well but faded a little as the game wore on. Such a lovely footballer to watch. It's such a shame he hasn't that player to slip a ball through to anymore.
It was really good to see the side taking pot shots from 20 or so yards. I lost count of the times we had efforts from this distance and it's the right thing to do with the current line up.
Mike Jones coming back was excellent. Really very good indeed. Very calm holding it together. Playing a little bit deeper, almost moving back 5 or 10 yards as he's gotten a bit older.
I honestly thought the whole side played well.
Great being so close to the pitch as you can really hear Gerrard screaming at Slater and Thomas.
He's such a class act, Gerrard. For someone of his size he's remarkable really.
Positionally he is top drawer. I think it's just an instinctive thing. You get a feel for things and he has it in spades. Time and time again at Carlisle he is just there. Over and over again.
For me, I came away with the hope reinstated. The 2 dropped points is of less significance.
It was such an exciting, promising performance that I think even a defeat would have left you walking away thinking that the side has a chance.
Even without a number 9.
Can't turn the clock back but a Nadesan or a Yates would be licking their lips with the supply line they would now have.
Play like this for the next 2 months and we'll be in the play offs.

Great post NCF, wasn't at the game but that was exactly the impression I got listening to it on the radio.
The key with us (as always) is consistency, play like that every week and I don't think we would have any problems!! But as we know a performance like Tuesday night is just around the corner waiting to bite us on the arse, hopefully we can now go on that magical run, trouble is I wont hold my breath........well too much.

Yes, ncf, great post. But Davie Cooper at Celtic?

Ha Ha! Yes, must be my age playing tricks on me! Memory not as good as it used to be.
Clearly not that class but just something about an old fashioned winger which gets you off your seat.
So exciting to see quick, skilful wide men.
Thomas certainly has something about him.

Davie Cooper is an absolute legend at Motherwell-probably the best Scottish player I have ever seen.We named a stand after him

Did you not see Kenny Dalglish ?

Kenny Dalglish is the best British player there's ever been.

Needs a separate thread this one!
When I was growing up I think many of the older people I used to talk to about football would have said Tom Finney.

Bill Shankly certainly said Tom Finney was the best. He would often work as a plumber on a Saturday morning and then play for Preston in the afternoon!

The players when they came off at half-time looked dejected. I asked how Pressley will, or anyone, pick up these players when they were going to play the second half against a very strong wind. The fact that they did was great credit to all.
And, differently from Tuesday, I felt the forward three showed more fluidity positionally. I do believe that, and more adventure from midfield, maybe the way to approach the run-in.

Was talking to some of their fans after the game and they were very happy to come away with a point.

We were much the better side in this one. Their back four passed it between themselves for so long, because when in came into midfield we’d hurry them and win it back.

Jones overall was great (all though you could say he lost his man for their goal), Thomas looks dangerous, Miller was steady at RB.

Unlucky not to get three points there but if we play like that in the run in, we’ll finish in play offs.

CCU wrote: I can’t believe some folk (mainly on Twitter) are bemoaning a point away at a Club higher in the League?

Yes, it sounds we were the better team overall, and a win would’ve been excellent, but it’s still a good point IMO...

I can’t believe you can’t see why people are disappointed with a point. In isolation it was a decent result, but after our run of terrible form, any points dropped are disappointing as you just want a good performance and win to build on. After Newport the general opinion was win our 2 home games and get a point at Forest Green, so 7 points from 9. Minimum 6. So as we [censored] up at home against the league’s bottom club, 3 points against Forest Green was required for it not to be a disappointing return from these 3 games.

We need some wins to get some momentum going for this important run in. We can’t afford these next run of 8 games to be as dire as the last 8 games. As Pressley would say, this is the reality of the situation.

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote: I can’t believe some folk (mainly on Twitter) are bemoaning a point away at a Club higher in the League?

Yes, it sounds we were the better team overall, and a win would’ve been excellent, but it’s still a good point IMO...

I can’t believe you can’t see why people are disappointed with a point. In isolation it was a decent result, but after our run of terrible form, any points dropped are disappointing as you just want a good performance and win to build on. After Newport the general opinion was win our 2 home games and get a point at Forest Green, so 7 points from 9. Minimum 6. So as we [censored] up at home against the league’s bottom club, 3 points against Forest Green was required for it not to be a disappointing return from these 3 games.

We need some wins to get some momentum going for this important run in. We can’t afford these next run of 8 games to be as dire as the last 8 games. As Pressley would say, this is the reality of the situation.

Too harsh there 'Crunch', we needed a performance and we got it, you've admitted yourself in your post. We all know our problems without a number nine!! Let's just see where this result takes us on Saturday, as we all know United's biggest enemy is consistency.
Great performance even if it wasn't three points it will hopefully give us the boost we need for Saturday.
COYB