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TOPIC: In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me?

In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 16:18 #1

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I've just worked it and it won't make a blind bit of difference to me personally.

Can anybody tell me any different?
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In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 17:30 #2

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Out after the ruling yesterday concerning vaping . But also the amount of money we pay to be in the EU it could be better spent on our own country rather than bailing out others
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In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 17:51 #3

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:) Agreed, We put more in than we get out, If we spent the cash on our own country there'd be no need for foodbanks, NHS in crisis and Councils being squeezed till the pips squeek....
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 18:14 #4

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zoney wrote:
Out after the ruling yesterday concerning vaping . But also the amount of money we pay to be in the EU it could be better spent on our own country rather than bailing out others


Unfortunately if we are in or out of the union, we will still have TPD in some forms. How else would the stooges in Westminster get funds to claim through expenses if they're getting less and less tax money from traditional cigarettes
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 19:49 #5

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chopper wrote:
zoney wrote:
Out after the ruling yesterday concerning vaping . But also the amount of money we pay to be in the EU it could be better spent on our own country rather than bailing out others


Unfortunately if we are in or out of the union, we will still have TPD in some forms. How else would the stooges in Westminster get funds to claim through expenses if they're getting less and less tax money from traditional cigarettes
I agree there will always be some kind of TPD but what they have said goes way to far
* Tank capacity 2ml
* Max Bottle size 10ml
* All liquids to be tested 6months prior to retail at a cost of around £260 per bottle per varient (the cost will put small to medium sized companys out of buisness)

Now take a look in the usa at what going on and its no where near as harsh on the retailers nor the customers atm all though it will it will varey from state to state .
but it seems that the age of vaping will go up to 21yrs old . Testing in the shops limited to 3 different bottles and extraction fan units fitted along with any chairs removed from the shops for customer .
Then you have the British Department of Health concluded their studies saying this:

"Best estimates show e-cigarettes are 95% less harmful to your health than normal cigarettes"

So thats our goverment rolling over to the EU
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 20:05 #6

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zoney wrote:
chopper wrote:
zoney wrote:
Out after the ruling yesterday concerning vaping . But also the amount of money we pay to be in the EU it could be better spent on our own country rather than bailing out others


Unfortunately if we are in or out of the union, we will still have TPD in some forms. How else would the stooges in Westminster get funds to claim through expenses if they're getting less and less tax money from traditional cigarettes
I agree there will always be some kind of TPD but what they have said goes way to far
* Tank capacity 2ml
* Max Bottle size 10ml
* All liquids to be tested 6months prior to retail at a cost of around £260 per bottle per varient (the cost will put small to medium sized companys out of buisness)

Now take a look in the usa at what going on and its no where near as harsh on the retailers nor the customers atm all though it will it will varey from state to state .
but it seems that the age of vaping will go up to 21yrs old . Testing in the shops limited to 3 different bottles and extraction fan units fitted along with any chairs removed from the shops for customer .
Then you have the British Department of Health concluded their studies saying this:

"Best estimates show e-cigarettes are 95% less harmful to your health than normal cigarettes"

So thats our goverment rolling over to the EU

The limiting of flavours will hurt many people. I'm happy that I make my own juice, and build my own coils. There's been rumours that tanks can be sold over 2mls capacity as long as the battery isn't included in the sale (due to the fact that the tank can't be used for vaping without the power from the battery/mod.

The age increase is daft, still able to buy traditional smokes at 18, yet e cigarettes are a no until 21. Kind of like you're allowed to have sex at 16 but not allowed to watch porn till 18

There will be ways round the eu directive, however the tpd that the eu are enforcing will be in power before the eu referendum, can you imagine the government overturning the tpd if we do vote exit

I'm not fully aware of any of the us tpd directive, I've not looked into it too much but I know that California are really cracking down on it. Soon, it'll be difficult to boil a kettle incase someone complains about the vapour leaving the kettle
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In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 20:19 #7

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Ignorance is bliss.
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? 14 Mar 2025 20:21 #8

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The other thing with tpd that gets me is they say a tank has to be leak proof at the time of filling. How is something that has a hole for filling gonna be leak proof?
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? Yesterday 06:00 #9

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How did you lot ever manage without 9000 different flavours of shit?. Lad at work was vaping red bull flavour yesterday. WTF is all that about???
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? Yesterday 13:50 #10

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chopper wrote:
The other thing with tpd that gets me is they say a tank has to be leak proof at the time of filling. How is something that has a hole for filling gonna be leak proof?

Have a read of the article about whats going to happen with the TDP HERE
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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? Yesterday 17:01 #11

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A dirty habit masquerading as a clean habit. It's about time that it was regulated in a similar way to smoking because that's essentially what it is.

It's still an addictive drug at the end of the day and should be treated as such.

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Re:In or out of Europe - it won't make any odds to me? Today 13:00 #12

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chopper wrote:

The limiting of flavours will hurt many people.

It's not actually going to hurt anybody though is it ?

No more than the nicotine contained does, which is still a poison, regardless of how it is delivered.

Ever thought the regulation (which is needed) is there to protect you ?
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