TOPIC: Protests

There has been a lot of talk about protesting against our wonderful owners. If as seems likely our pay off aspirations are dead by the last home game, it would be a good time to vent our dislike of their continuing clinging on to power with their lies insults and destruction of our club.

You can protest all you want at games it will make no difference

The best ways to do that are firstly season ticket boycott and then an effective boycott of Jenkins businesses and any other business who has dealings with it.

The only way these people recognise hurt is when it starts to hit them in the pocket

The response (or lack of) to this thread says it all. What is wrong with you all!

3000 people have been boycotting matches for years and its done F all , apart from put us in a far worse fincially position, people also wont boycott jenkins business as they are far too popular

Happyblue wrote:
Yes and i.m proud to say i.m one of then

Just a pity the other 4000 havnt got the balls to join us if they had 8 years ago we wouldnt be in this shit now and Jenkins days of power and mismanagement would of been consigned to history a long time ago.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Well all I can say is well done to the 4000, if we had to rely on the others (like you) we would have lost our Club years ago. Far from insult them, you should praise them for guaranteeing we still have a Club to support !

We would not have lost the club altogether.
We would have reformed and be busy working our way back up through the non league system like Darlington, Halifax Town, Chester, Rushden & Diamonds, Scarborough and Maidstone United.

thesilentone wrote:
Utter bollocks the 4000 are just as guilty as the 3 of them. If fans boycott clubs owners back down or sell or can you show me an owner who deliberately put his club into administration to spite them

I.ll tell you what is for sure had The Lanky Tw at put us into Administration 8 years ago instead of giving it to the 3 muppets wed be a damm site further up the league ladder than we are today.

But i bet Mr Jenkins will be happy to know he still has you and another 3999 still licking his arse on a fortnightly basis.

Flatcap wrote:
One big difference between us and the above clubs is we are well capable of maintaining a 7500 average gate whereas all the clubs above would be lucky to manage half that.

And if you watch Barrow next season you.ll see what a Myth it is about being hard to get back into the league all it takes is a manager who doesnt fu ck about and a chairman who willing to back him to the tune of half a million each season.

Celtic Nation's manager didn't "[censored] about" and he got backed to hilt and couldn't get them out of the league they were in...

pie wrote:
Well i.d say how it all ended there proves that youre not comparing like to like.

There isn't 3000 people boycotting games, the attendances are actually not too bad based on our current standing.

There's always some reason some people will not go

Unhappy with way club is run
Manager
Transfer policy
Player with criminal conviction
Ticketing arrangements
Style of play
Cost of entry
Price of pies
Being dealt with rudely by a member of staff
Players aren't trying
Stewards
Flags
Crisps
Tannoy

In 30+ years I could always find some reason to boycott.

If you supported Man united, Barcelona or Colchester, you would find a reason to justify boycotting them as well.

Or you could just support your team if you want to and if you don't, you don't.

I take it your on a wind up NORTHERN SOUL by insulting 4000 people for supporting their football club

182blue wrote:
Well i.d say most of the above have affected any number of fans since Jenkins and co took over and most people who dont go any more do so for a mixture of them but the main reason is that yjey can see that under the present tenure the club is going nowhere no matter how competent the incumbant manager may be.

Nobody can deny that had they given Curle 300k to spend in January we.d now be fighting it out with Northampton or that they would have recovered that money from the feel good factor of promotion in the form of being able to raise prices and increased attendances both for the rest of this season and next.

But thats the whole story of their tenure failing to push on when the opportunites there to do so and thats why were where were are and not in the championship

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
Yes but the point is that's just standard for a lower league club isn't it.
Few would argue that the club has been run badly and that's why we are a mid-table L2 club.
Nobody is happy about it and some stop going, crowds go down. When we are doing better crowds go up. That's how it works.

Those that continue to go are either going because it means more to them to support the blues, than those who don't, or because they don't want to break the habit.

Winning = good
Losing = Bad

Signing top players = good
Signing crap players = bad

I get it, I know. Everyone knows.

So the fact we went into recession 8 years ago has nothing to do with crowds being down.As the recession kicked in my wages in the construction industry went down by thousands.

182blue wrote:
And thats why those still going are the guilty ones if theyd all walked away 8 years ago like i did the club would be sorted now and the likes of Jenkins long gone

Dunny wrote:
But if you look at the FL leagues attendance figures for the last 8 years you.ll see that away from your personal situation your argument simply doesnt stack up.

Who's to say Barrow won't end up in the same spot? Can only chase the pot of gold for so long with no infrastructure or sustainable backing.

Well when the billionaire rolls in, they're all gonna be jumping on uncle andrew's band wagon!! So I don't know what all the fuss is about! G.B.T.C.Y.C!!!!!!

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

chopper wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dunny wrote:
attendances actually grew on average across the football league during the recession

Supporting your club when times are good is great
Getting behind your club when times are hard is what its all about
We support a lower league football club which is underperforming against a relatively low benchmark.
This makes the good times all the more enjoyable when they come around
Accept it, embrace it and, most of all, get behind the club you whinging c@@@s

I agree that any protest is highly unlikely to have any effect, but if it is done in the right way it could keep the pressure on and keep the media spotlight on them. To do nothing would just site we are beaten and underline their attitude that we are as fans insignificant and ignores the fact that without the fans there would be no club. Are we indeed beaten, are we willing to stand by and watch these incompetents to complete their destruction of our club.

My personal opinion is that a boycott has no chance of working... we have had two good cup runs and income from player transfers this season... they can ride out a couple of years relatively comfortably on that basis. Having said that I don't agree with boycott's anyway.... if I had boycotted Carlisle games every time I thought the owners were doing a bad job, or I didn't like the manager, I'd hardly have been to any games in the last 35 years! Owners and managers of the club are temporary... they come and go... the fans are the only constant and as such should support their club no matter what in my opinion. Nobody will ever stop me supporting my club on match days. There are other ways of protesting, unfortunately they probably won't work either because of fan apathy and the fact the 3 old buffoon's don't actually care what the fans do or think.

There are a couple of myth's mentioned in this thread that I don't buy into though: Firstly, there are not 3,000 people boycotting.... there are probably about 500 max... the rest just don't come any more for various reasons. Secondly, The club would still be here without the current custodians... Fred would have had to stay on as owner or sell to other interested parties. Even if he had sold to others I don't actually think it is possible to do a much worse job than the current owners at running the club over the last few years. They have been beyond inept in every aspect of running the business. I used to respect AJ for keeping the club afloat in his prior periods in charge of the club but he has lost the plot this time and as a result has lost the respect of many of his former supporters.

How about the trust grow some balls and hand out leaflets at the ground to hold up with "holding the club back" or a bit more verve ( rotten to the core) is my choice. thats not too hard

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Steady on mark one thing at a time, they're still waiting on that sign being made.

chopper wrote:

Lancs blue wrote: Is that you AJ?

Northumbrian wrote:
A quick look at this guys Posting History makes quite interesting reading.

Has views on a very limited number of topics and all of them Pro the club board.

markredfox73 wrote:
Well they could start by growing a pair and saying fu ck the confidentiality agreement and get Coleman to put the reply letter on the front page of tomorrows paper..

I wouldnt think that it will take up too much room.

Interesting thought though how far down does the confidentiality go. Surely the Trust Board are entitled to see it. Then if a member made a formal request to see it that would be his right democratically and if he then disclosed the contents to his mate who posted them on here what the [censored] could Jenkins do about it ?

Northumbrian wrote:
Fred could have sold it to other parties (Remember the spat with John Courtney) but chose to give it to the custodians instead.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Not sure who you are NORTHERNSOUL but I have my suspicions

No idea what the fu ck youre on about everybody on here knows full well who i am and unlike you i dont hide behind a message board user name.

You've talked an absolute load of crap of this thread but the notion of buying Taylor, Holmes and Roofe for 300k at xmas is laughable, that's without factoring in the possibility of them not wanting to come here and their clubs not wanting to sell to a promotion rival. We wouldn't have got Roofe on his own for 300k ffs!

In your oppinion

Clearly you have a lot less knowledge of lower league football finances than i do.

Any club in BRFC position having just got Taylor for nothing would take a 100k profit in 6 months very seriously.........., What do you think would of happened if someone had offered us 100k for Jabo at Xmas

As for Ricky Holmes it was common knowledge that any player at NTFC had his price and believe me when youre unable to pay your staffs wages that price isnt very high.

No idea what you base your valuation of Roofe on hed just been released from a crap premier league side without making the slightest impression and with a lot of rumours about his lack of application. Clearly you dont have any grasp on how the finances work at Oxford this is a club who earlier this year paid off their chief executive because they couldn't afford to pay him and well as making a third of their back office staff redundant. Ask yourself why did Wilder leave there to go to NTFC ?

If you want to buy a player from Oxford you dont make your offer to the club you make it to Firoz Kassam because thats where the money will go as they owe him so much with no way of paying him it back it will be his decision not the managers or the present owners so what do you think hed say is someone offered him a 100k minimum repayment that he wasnt expecting.

that's without factoring in the possibility of them not wanting to come here and their clubs not wanting to sell to a promotion rival. We wouldn't have got Roofe on his own for 300k ffs!

Idont believe i ever commented on wether the players concerned would of wanted to come to Carlisle or not but if were not making bids for players because we think that they might not come then we might as well give up

The amount of uneducated guesswork and presumptions you've made to back up your weak arguments is absolute comedy.

Fraid not old lad just clearly proved its you who knows fu ck all now run along dont forget CBBC on till 9pm now.

Hahaha, what a plonker! You don't hide behind a messageboard username. So your actual name is NORTHERNSOUL? Hahaha.

Henry's Cat would be a better username for you. He knew everything about nothing and not so much about that! You always have been and continue to be a figure of ridicule amongst Carlisle fans. Like I say, a plonker.

franksidebottom wrote:

Anyone any idea when Deano's next refresher course on quoting other posters is?

chesterviabothel wrote:
Urgh

Your hugely impressive inside knowledge of lower league football club finances (which incidentally is a load of absolute shite) does beg the question if the three best players in our league are as readily available as you claim why do all three still remain at their clubs?

franksidebottom wrote:
Maybe you can point me to where i.ve ever said "the three best players in our league are as readily available as you claim why do all three still remain at their clubs? "

I can back up the research work i.ve done on the subject for a couple of reports which have been used not only by fan groups and football authorities but also by government quangos wonder if you can say the same ?

Either that or climb back into whatever hole it was that out crawled out of

And i can tell you that at least one of them wont start the new season at the club hes with now

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
I dont know about anyone else but ive missed this top level banter.

There is an old saying....'Don,t cut off your nose to spite your face,'. And to boycott United would be doing exactly that.
To a true United Fan, spending Saturday Arvo somewhere other than Brunton Park is totally Unbelievable.
Think of all that History you would miss like Paddy Watters getting his shorts ripped off,and the other players crowding around him to save the modesty of the female fans.
Carlisle being one of the very few Clubs to start a game with only 10 players,when goalie Fairley got injured in the kick about.
Billy Rafferty scoring a hat trick in the final 10 minutes, pulling Carlisle to a 4 -3 victory over Cardiff..
To be honest I don't give a damm re the politics of the Club, I don't care who owns the Club ,who the Directors are,..... I just want to support a Club that I have grown up with, that moves up and down the various leagues like a yoyo, and plays most matches in Blue.
I very much doubt if many true fans are actually boycotting the club, more likely not going due to other reasons ie financial or not really interested, but spout the boycott line on here simply to provoke response.
Like another on this board I have studied the contributions of a certain Northymberland Gentleman, and apart from his weird ideas for the Waterworks End, have found his comments to be extremely sensible ,and a cut above some of the rubbish printed on here.
Why can't people admit the truth, I don't go to the Cinema, but I am not boycotting it, I just am not interested..
So the Claim you are boycotting United because you don't like the Directors is rubbish. Put simply you are not a true fan. either you are not really interested, or you simply can,t afford to.

"government quangos"



The only Quango you've ever seen was that wrestler on World of Sport!

nobbyblue wrote:
You shaaarrrrupppppppp EASY EASY EASY EASY

I boycotted because of the idiots incharge. They boil my piss... they are liars and i will continue to say that regardless. I had simply had enough after the fiasco and 6 years of incompetence.. my choice and had good reason to. I was missing my fill of games so had to return eventually

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With this weeks' events, is our last home game of a season full of pathetic events at board level a chance to let feelings known again?

See you all in the paddock underneath the directors box.. could be interesting ..happy clappers-brown nosers.. stay out of the road

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markredfox73 wrote:
Aye lob a coffee cup of piss over the tw ats for me