TOPIC: NO CLASS

I've been proud to be a Carlisle United fan since the age of 7 in 1970. My Dad and his Dad long before then. My sons now..
Guess I was lucky to watch the best ever Carlisle United team and whilst in many ways it's been downhill since 1974 I have never, ever lost the faith.
The desperate times in the late 80s, early 90s, the Knighton era-fiascos, the relegation from the League (I was at Doncaster with my son on my shoulders with 1500 defiant Cumbrians for our "last" league game), The Conference, having to put up with the complete lack of sensible and credible leadership at the top level (Fred excepted there), the crazy decisions taken by our board and owners (Fred not excepted there re the Custodians etc) and many, many, many other lows have never diminished my passion and love for my club.
But now..... There comes a time when blind faith has to be questioned. A line in the sand drawn.

This last year in my view has been an outrage including,
The turning down of a £2m investment and credible business plan
The "Keith"and Dick Young fiasco involving Twittergate 1
The ridiculous and quite pathetic attempt to justify the Lapping rejection by the billionaire "story".
The then bad mouthing of Lapping and his business practices. [ironic does not do it!]
The continued failure to nip the billionaire crap in the bud
The rejection of a further £2m investment by local businessmen
The acceptance of the Fred loan write off but not writing off at least some of the other loans
And now Claire Winders resignation following the criticism of her actions in doing precisely what she was supposed to do and now, the final straw,
The Bell Twittergate 2 and its mishandling.

We are a joke. No, worse, much worse, a disgraced Club.
I feel like I did at the end of the Knighton era. I'm prepared to boycott.
I think we all now know we need to do something.
Either by not going, withdrawing sponsorship or just making our views VERY loudly known if we do go.
Those who do go need to make some gesture to the 96 who went to a football game and never came home. It's the least we can do after this week.

I thought it had been quite a good season!

Top post Bellvueboy, exactly how I and I suspect many hundreds of others feel. Many fans have simply stopped going. Will things ever change? Only if Aj and Jn depart voluntary or are forced out.. If the match day experience was an ordeal for them with chanting/banners/demonstrations/etc. Nothing illegal of course and the fans made it clear their time is up, it would hopefully make them realise it wasn't worth the hassel.

But in reality the majority of us will go today and sit/stand and twine to our mates and do not much else.

I'm not going.

Had enough of it all to be honest. Just feel really demoralised by the way the leadership have dealt with various issues amd also the way the season has petered out with a bit of a whimper after a failure to strengthen in January. I think filling the side with loans hasn't helped the fans gel with the team either. At the start of the season it felt like we were all in it together and the players were busting a gut. I don't get that from Stacey, Comely, Hope or Gilliead.

The big stumbling block to progress is that Jenks and his cronies ignore the criticism, ignore the fans and using complete tunnel vision and the very best techniques of mushroom-management get on with undermining our Club's future well-being on a daily basis.

It beggars belief that they continue their stupid, selfish and outrageous behaviour in the certain knowledge that any credibility they had they lost years ago.

As has been well documented by many many supporters, they are totally the problem not the solution.

It's a situation that has to change sometime, probably when we least expect it.

I'm with the vast majority of fans here, we don't have to be the best, only the best that we can be, we want to be proud of our team - we sure as hell ain't proud of the clowns running it.

Only an opinion, of course.

No evidence of hacking in N and S. Bookies.com advertising boards still present on club's Facebook pre match photos. The club is toxic...

The removal of myself yesterday sums up everything you need to know about those in charge..The truth hurt them they didnt want me upsetting them anymore with my home truth ranting (where i made sure it gained plenty of attention). Mentioned the points thst bellvue boy had posted about. so anyone who stands up to them the way i did yesterday as i said i would.. well we will have no fans left in the ground.

Would i do anything differently today? Nope i wouldnt.

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I have been a supporter for half a century and have seen the ups and downs including the Alan Ashman days when we were in the then called 1st Division.
Its been a rollercoaster of emotions over the years with the Knighton days bringing success and then disaster. Fred Storey brought back a bit of sanity for a while but then it all went wrong when Fred gave away the Club to the current custodians. These custodians have proved that they are not fit for purpose. They do not engage with the fanbase and their attitude towards the fans is a disgrace. They seem determined to hang on to the club come what may even to the extent that AJ put his own cash into the club to keep it going.and thus remaining in power.
Its time for change and the custodians should now move on and let someone with vision and enthusiasm take over the club. As long as the custodians remain the club will never be successful on or off the pitch.

Those 3 are toxic at the club, End of....

spanblue wrote: Exactly right span so therefore I can't see how AJ can want his money back. He won't sell up and is the chairman who just keeps giving . we need an explanation.

He's been involved with the club for too long to just give it up. He's shit scared of life without Carlisle United. In his eyes, he is Carlisle United.

F****** old c***!

My father died in 1977 he was a big carlisle united fan went to all home games untill we got relegated from the old first division he stopped going I asked one day why do you not go to the games anymore, he turned and said to me it's a waste of time and money because as long as there is a Jim bendle or a andrew jenkins in charge of Carlisle United we will do nothing they have no vision or ambition for carlisle united and no money to improve the team they are too self important, look at me I own a football club to this day he has been right. Any success we have had is when we have had different people at the elm ie Knighton, Courtney and story we have always struggled with jenkins at the elm

It's time to hit them the only way they'll realise and that's in the pocket. No season tickets,no merchandise nothing. It has to go back to the mass protests outside the ground like what happened with Knighton.

There's only one problem though,no one can be arsed so do we all get what we deserve?

Add to the list what seems to a brazen and completely unjustifiable attempt to dilute the shareholding of the fans in their own club to virtually nothing.

Supported the blues since 1959 through the Alan Ashman years etc ,Knighton was good at the beginning
but turned into a [censored] at the end of his tenure . These cretins who are running the club now are like an incurable cancer they beggar belief ,this new share issue is clearly an attempt to weaken the trusts position .absolute [censored].

Wukkie wrote:
However admirable = No Club.

I wonder if there are any diehards on the Crispy Cake Bus who now have had enough and are planning to call it a day. Sad times...

Some cracking & thought provoking posts above and I agree.
However it is pointless to talk about a boycott, we are a generation, and the next generation seem to accept things easier, as they know no different.
You just have to look at the ST sales, the figure way up on last seasons at this stage. (Info from A Hall twitter)
I think its called natural wastage, there will always be someone new to replace us.
My first game was in 1982, we lost 2-0.
This season I went once, with a borrowed ST and even then I left at half time.
I don't love Carlisle Utd any less, I just rather spend my time & money with the family.
It is a nice change to not sit in a sulk after an afternoon stood in the WRE in full contempt of a situation I am personally powerless to change.

A boycott will never help, inside protests might, if more than one person got involved (Cheers Mark) They cannot throw everyone out.