TOPIC: Just How Low Can Cameron Go

Because some folk are voting leave as a [censored] you to the establishment.

Cameron,Osborne,Blair,Brown,Major,Corbyn have been wheeled out for remain. More a collection of spunktrumpets, l've yet to see. All are toxic in people's eyes. People just do not believe them. Seeing as you can't predict the future,all these apocolyptic scare stories just carry no weight with the ordinary man in the street.

DeckchairBlue wrote:

Deckchair, Im disappointed in you, normally your points are better made than that! the last sentence could be just as easily applied to the remain campaign wih a couple of words changed.

DeckchairBlue wrote:
Perhaps you can point me to whoever said the Milk and Honey statement as i must of missed that one.

But apart from that youre spot on.

The leave campaign dont really need to do anything at all Cameron and co are saying is vote stay and everything will stay the same Well i.m sorry but most people have had enough and dont want things to stay the same.

We want to be in control of our own destiny decide who can come in and who cant decide who we want to trade with and who we dont and most importantly decide for ourselves whether or not we want to buy bent bananas and cucumbers.

Its called freedom to choose so if Merkel wants to fill her country with Islamic State Muslims well lets leave her to get on with it as it.ll not be long before proper Germans are all wanting to come here to get away from it.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
The bookies dont seem to think that although it is getting closer.

Blaming immigrants of another religion,has worked so well for Germany,previously.

High Street wrote:
Donald Trump is using the same strategy. So far it seems to be working for him. That's what we're up against.

Well religion is a dangerous thing....it causes more bad than good in the world

It more than likely will end this planet

is it any wonder people are scared of it???

Dancingbear wrote:
Does anybody really believe or care what the fu*ck the bookies think.

They know so little they think Blackpool are a better bet for the division 2 title than we are which is quite strange coz i dont know any Blackpool fans who think that.

The most telling aspect is that everyone knows dozens of people who are saying i might vote to stay in but i could be persuaded

How many people do you know who are saying i.m voting to leave but i.m open to have my mind changed.

What that means is that the OUT vote is solid and the REMAIN vote is shall we say fluffy.and open to persuasion and the longer it goes on the bigger knobs and liars Cameron and Osbourne are making themselves look.

In my opinion whats stopping a lot of them coming over is a the majority of the so called experts saying staying would be good but i.ve yet to see any of them back it up with absolute facts but they wont because they cant. And thats before you take into account theyre all people with somthing to lose if we vote to come out.

What's stopping me voting leave is the prospect of sharing a similar stance as you on anything at all.

Useless wrote:
Well when we vote leave on the 23rd according to some on here we.ll all become racists wether we like it or not so you wont really have a lot of choice.

I made a speech at a Patrons lunch yesterday and received a standing ovation not bad for a crowd who were about a quarter Asian.they love the idea of sending the Syrians and East Europeans home..

Did you tell them what you called the Blackburn owners?

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
I might be wrong but i thought they didnt like giving money away. Therefore if they thought the majority were gonna vote leave theyd have that favourite wouldnt they?

BTW Carlisle and Blackpool are both best priced 25/1

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
So you see Brexit as the first step to cleanse Britain of nasty foreigners NS?

To regular readers this is no great surprise although you seem a little confused as to where you are going to draw the line.

It seems Asians will be OK if they're Monarchists, but Syrians and East Europeans will have to go?

Can you please clarify?

Bruntonpasty wrote:
Apologies, can I chalk it down to lack of sleep after a weekend of night shifts ?

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
You realise post Brexit (if it happens) eu citizens currently in the country will be able to remain don't you ?

We will also more than likely still let all of those nasty foreigners in when we realise there's nobody to pick our spuds.

Shouldn't we be picking our own spuds with 1.6 million unemployed?

Belle vue nice to see someone is looking past the nationalistic jingo and using their brain. I'd be the first to admit if I went with my heart I would vote out but if you take a real look at everything and especially taking away the fact that the EU to some extent stop this Govt of ours pushing through their extremes then far better to stay in and fight from within. Cameron is already showing his intentions with his threats. Talk of controlling our own decisions is a fallacy the Tories plan on over ruling decisions by local councils on the likes of fracking and nuclear regardless, is that what is called democracy.

The whole issue is actually starting to reek of the Scottish independence vote where the out campaigners were getting very aggressive and threatening. It's OK to have an opinion as long as it agrees with them.
Would be interesting to know what ALs opinion is in all this.

Latest polls show Britain is due to leave
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/e...-david-a7075131.html

BlueAl wrote:
We should he your right. However for some reason many of our young, unskilled unemployed believe that manual labour is beneath them. It's not like it's low paid either.

Tom wrote:
Shit no i forgot to put that in

I bet if i.d slagged them off i.d of got a couple more minutes applause

howoldboy wrote:
Not a case of cleansing anyone

If we leave the EU anyone who came here as a result of us of us being in the EU will no longer have a legitimate right to stay.

So any Syrians etc that are here as a result of Merkels policies will be required to leave [ I.m sure Angela will welcome them with open arms ] but the 20k that dodgy Dave agreed to take direct from the countries surrounding Syria are fine on the 5 year licences if Syria is sorted by then they will be assisted to return home.

As far as the East Europeans are concerned they lose any right to be here so we just make their lives difficult encouraging them to go home [ like banning foreign based recruitment agencies and deporting anyone whos been here less than 10 years on conviction of any criminal offence.] Estimate is we could lose up to 2m over 10 years.

Good old Donalds plan for a blacklist of countries from who we wont let anyone in is worth a look at and the overall plan would be to admit no more each year than the number of Brits who left the year before.

Massive benefits all round thousands of school places become available without spending a penny, much less pressure on the Health service, thousands of council/housing association homes become available saving the country hundreds of millions a year.

Yes there will be a loss of tax take but a lot less than a lot of people think because dont forget were starting at the bottom with the least desirable/least tax paying and its very unlikely it would reach anyone on higher rate tax band for instance unless of course they wanted to leave because for example their businesses markets had disappeared back to Poland.

BlueAl wrote:
Yes we should and we should be paying them £10 an hour to do it maybe some of it in the form of tax credits or similar paid for by the reduction in people claiming out of work benefits.

It really isnt rocket science but when you make kids stay at school till theyre 18 when they dont want to they arent going to want to pick potatoes once theyve got qualifications so accept there are kids with less academic abilities and let them get on with their lives earning 400 quid a week picking potatoes and thereby young couples with an income of over 3k a month would be able to afford a mortgage even as a potato picker.

To the title thread, At the last General Election the Sun backed Cameron and his Cohorts up to the hilt. Now they say he as used every dirty an cynical trick in the book to secure a stay vote. Well this man could crawl under a snakes belly with a stove plpe hat on, He as no bounds to lying and trying to con the plebs to vote stay. And Corbyn the Clown is no better, do you honestly believe all Labour Councillors want to stay, At least some of the Tories have got the balls to say what they believe but not that shower of shit. Well I don't need Corbyn Dodgy Dave Brown Bliar or any other cheesedick to tell me how to vote, ITS OUT FOR ME.....

pensionerblue wrote:
Add Sturgeon to the list and they are all acting like Euro Politicians. Don't know what she is going to do if the Jocks vote Brexit, it will be like the General Election - resignations in alphabetical order please !!

Vote OUT...

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
Your ethnic cleansing ideas fail to acknowledge that the Leave campaign have already said that anybody already in the country when we come out of the EU will have indefinite leave to remain. Nobody will be kicked out.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
I've not picked potatoes but as a student I did one day picking courgettes on piece work and have to say it was the most back-breaking soul-destroying job imaginable. If Eastern Europeans are willing to do vegetable picking for the minimum wage then let them get on with it.

DeckchairBlue wrote:
The Leave campaign said that to increase their chances of winning the Brexit vote. Once they get power the ethnic cleansing will begin. Personally I would start with any ex-Cumbrians supporting Accrington.

In the case of a general election most folk who vote tend to vote for the party they dislike the least, the beauty of this referendum is you can vote for what you believe. The leave campaign appears to be gaining ground perhaps because people are warming to the idea of being able to shove it to Dave and Jeremy and Nicola and Tim and all those that generally shove to the great British public most of the time.
The remain campaign have recently wheeled out that giant of a statesman - Gordon Brown, the same GB that sold of the gold reserves of the country for a tad less than they were worth and then raided the pension pots of hard working people, then the remain campaign have the cheek to say pensioners will be worse off should we vote to leave the EU, thanks to that berk, I don`t think so.
Anyway it seems the nearer we get to polling day, the high pitched whine that forms the basis of the remain campaign gets louder and goes up an octave, keep it up, you`re doing great for the leave campaign.

Yorkie Blue wrote:
They're saving their secret weapon until next Wednesday. Chicken Licken has been booked to tell us the sky is gonna fall in if we vote leave.

Dancingbear wrote:
Do you know if henny penny or cocky locky are set to make an appearance?

DeckchairBlue wrote:
Ethnic Cleansing my arse.

Simple Question do any of these people hold a British Passport ?

Answer NO They dont.

So therefore we are quite within our right to ask them to leave Nothing to do with "ethnic cleansing".

They are here because they have a right to be as we are members of the EU Once we leave the EU they no longer have that right and we can quite legitimately ask them to leave and if you believe we wont be doing that youre living in cloud cuckoo land.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Are you really as stupid as you appear to be?

CumbrianView wrote:
I heard Mullen once threatened a pensioner in town when said pensioner was with his Mrs?

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
I guess your public speaking is better than your writing?

Kangshung wrote:
To be fair, he had to step in at the last minute when the comedian cancelled.

Osbornes at it now saying taxes could go up and funding for the NHS could be cut, Well we'll use some of the 14 billion we'll save by an exit you feckin cretin.....

It's kinda funny how people who are backing the leave campaign and having a go at Cameron, Corbyn Osborne and even Blair who's not really involved are apparently willing to accept the rhetoric from Farage Boris and Gove. Really these three are escapees from the nut house. There are no facts that support the out campaign and they are deliberately not telling people about the years of extreme austerity that is highly likely to follow while we beg to be let in to trade agreements as a small insignificant country. The out campaigns political broadcast was full of pretence and lies the idea in particular that the NHS would be better financed from money save was a pure fantasy, it is more likely to become one of the first victims of cut backs as we struggle to realise ourselves.
Don't get me wrong I hate this Govt and their policies more than anyone and the EU is deeply flawed but there is strength in numbers, and like it or not we breath the same air and share the same planet. Our priority not just for ourselves but for future generations should be to look after the planet that provides us with life, at present we are on a self destruct course driven by selfishness and greed.

pacirv wrote:
And it is these kind of threats that people don't like. Experts have an opinion about what may happen economically if we were to leave the EU (and differing opinions at that), but anybody who says they know for certain, or anybody who says that we're in for "years of extreme austerity" is lying, and scaremongering.

In a totally non scientific or representative reaction from pretty well everyone I have spoken to recently, the dire threats of austerity from Cameron, Osborne et al are having the reverse effect of what they are intended to do,. They are irritating people who don't like to be, well almost threatened, and it's a large factor in persuading people to vote NO

Whats wrong with picking tatties we used to do it in the school holidays to earn a few quid or help on the local farms with the hay.Cant imagine many youngsters now doing that they cant even be dropped of at the school gates there parents have to take them to the door soft arses

howoldboy wrote:
Who was the comedian Chubby Brown?