TOPIC: Eden bridge

Apparently buggered and talks of it being declared condemned later today.

Specialist divers from Lincoln are inspecting it now, not good.

Best take no chances if its knackered..It will have taken some pile of hammering over the years. Its gonna be a big hassle but the options of the bypass and Motorway is a saving grace even if an inconvienience.

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F*cking hell.

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Is this from the same rumour mill that said the Petterill Bridge had been swept away multiple times on saturday night?

Divers will be down for a 'Bridge Scour' Inspection. It's part of routine inspections and is always done after a flooding/high flow event.

feckwittery wrote:
Surely it would only have been swept away once.

The way the warnings are going out not to use it, im guessing some idiot has ignored the signs.

markredfox73 wrote:
Bit screwed if you just want to walk into town though (motorway seems to frown on foot traffic), even the cenotaph bridge is shut so there's no way over for pedestrians

feckwittery wrote:
CCC's bridge inspector

Its had its initial scour which is why more advanced divers have been brought in to explore the damage further down.

They are asking pedestrians not to use it, although some are as its very fragile. Will have to wait and see what the final report is.

orfc wrote:
Remember PC Bill Barker - better safe than sorry.

Apparently some idiots over the weekend have been moving "Road Closed" signs and going past them ( not on the Bridge mind , elsewhere) Beggars belief.

A bloke in a Landrover Discovery ignored the road closed signs on Petteril Bank road then proceeded to get it stuck in the floodwaters under the bridge. Some people just have no brains.

seesaw50 wrote:

True enough, if it is buggered though I hope it doesn't take as long to fix as Workington's - that was nearly 3 years!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-24978413

Walked up to bridge this morning, now fenced off didn't see any divers, river flowing too fast and too muddy coloured for underwater inspection. Council worker said it could be closed for two more days at least and may need to be inspected by divers ,they are awaiting structural inspection results.

orfc wrote:
It did take a while, but the temporary bridge was fine for the time it was up. It meant changing some of the road layouts but it worked pretty well.

orfc wrote:
At least they were able to setup a temporary bridge in the mean time. Not sure where you'd even start to think about doing that down there.

pigeonpete wrote: I know... buying a Landrover Discovery... what a plank!

A zipwire could be the answer for shoppers.

nobbyblue wrote:
The National Parks people would just object....

They should set up a couple of rope/wire bridges like on I'm a celebrity for pedestrians and cyclists if it is condemned until it reopens. Simple but effective. As for road traffic a pontoon bridge.

The National Park nimbys wont have any say So zipwire it is

Appleby are looking to use the temporary bridge the army put across the derwent a few years back .Wonder how many they actually have available that could be utilised

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They could always buy them back off Withams who sell demobbed equiptment

Heard from a bloke that its gan to be closed till March. No idea who he was though.

superblueabbott?

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You here all sorts these days but 2 things that are being repeated most often are
1, no chance of getting a diving unit down to inspect the bridge until the water has gone down and calmed down
2, even without going down they (whoever 'they' are) have already decided/assumed/worked out that the bridge is structurally unsafe, therefore either knocking it down or extensive re-constructive work will have to be done to it.

If the worst came to the worst i.e the bridge had to come down, where the hell would you be able to build a temporary one?
Answers on a postcard please

Hypothetical question.

I know there are some brilliant civil engineers out there, bur it is still going to take someone with big balls to pass the bridge as safe.

Who in their right mind would sign it off knowing in a couple of years we could have a similar, or God forbid, a worse event and if it collapsed a school bus could plummet into the Eden?

A mechanic doesnt fail your cars MOT, in the off chance that youre going to crash into a wall in a few years.

High Street wrote:

Well, he wouldn't because a car has to have an MOT every year, if you crash, could be down to the car, the driver or other drivers, if you are driving over a bridge and it collapses underneath you, not the drivers fault, really.

Don't understand why one lane either side in the middle cannot be opened up but, in this risk averse society we live, in very unlikely.
Also remember, the construction already sits in waters that have presumably been previously choppy for many years (including 2005) at present.

I canna see it falling down with a few pedestrians walking over it although I'm not a civil engineer.

Blow the bridge up and everyone in Stanwix can be affiliated to Scotchland.

Racist!

*rambling anecdote begins here*


It would take something to knacker that bridge as it was built back in the daaayyyy before computer modelling etc so they just had to over-engineer the whole structure to take whatever they think could be thrown at it - remember when it was extended back in the 30s it took a model t and a herd of cows each day. This reminded me of a tale I was told by a colleague the other day about the forth road bridge which is now fucked, and he said the mantra in engineering was that anyone can build a bridge that stays up but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that just about stays up, so I asked him about the forth rail bridge which despite being about 100 years older than the road bridge isn't shut and he reckons again it was just over-engineered as they didn't really know how much steel was needed, but modern analysis shows it has 50% more than a modern design would use. Then again he pointed out it was built shortly after the tay bridge disaster so they're urging on caution. Anyways if we do need a replacement bridge whats the odds it rusts/falls down in about 30 years time when the engineers apply their "just about" calculations to it?

How about a ferry.

nobbyblue wrote:
Can if there's little to nowt under the foundations of the supports.

'Bridge Scour' is what they're waiting to check for. There's obviously a touch more than usual, they just can't get down to see the full extent until water levels/flow rate and visibility calm down.
Probably fairly minor and easily sorted. Playing safe because they don't want to kill anyone or make it worse and maybe loose the bridge.

Divers are checking the main Appleby bridge this morning, many fingers are crossed here while we wait for news.

Further inspections to Eden Bridge on Thursday as they still can't get right to the bottom.

Will be closed until then.

If they can't get right to the bottom they want to get some better divers.

i would do it mesel but my snorkel is away for repair.

The river's well within normal range now, are they waiting for a drought?

apps.environment-agency.gov.uk/river-and....aspx?stationId=5171
apps.environment-agency.gov.uk/river-and....aspx?stationId=5127

and yes, i do know more about diving than professional paid experts, i'm on the internet

Mullen103 wrote:
Thought you were in nick Mullen.


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ParcelPete wrote:
I do send teasing texts and message board posts

I also deal coke as well but the legal type

Mullen103 wrote:
You looked lost at the Bus Station yesterday though...

I always look lost to be honest

Eden Bridge is exactly 200 years old and listed- hope we dont loose it.
www.visitcumbria.com/car/eden-bridge/

Dixy wrote:
What about where the Waverley line crossed the Eden further downstream?

Fully open, its fine, lots of panic people at CCC

Remedial work will be carried out in the summer to give added protection. Cracks were superficial apparently, whatever that means.

I thought you said it was condemned!

Superficial mean surface.......so any cracks or damage is on exterior and not internal.

nobbyblue wrote:
The word Apparently saved me from total humiliation

Mullen103 wrote: