TOPIC: Worth a Read

www.thefootballlife.co.uk/post/123023523...be-right-at-carlisle

Nothing in there about Kavanaghs dressing room unrest, when he had Lee Miller by the throat in training

i've got a feeling i know who wrote this

5 minutes of my life I won't get back, nothing in there that CCU hasn't said 250 times

It would be a lot better without the ridiculous exaggerations and inaccuracies that aren't necessary to make the point. The club is a big enough joke as it is without trying to invent new stuff.

I take it this is CCU's blog?

good read.

Written by a guy called Richard Wilson from Dumfries & Galloway

Carlisleprogrammes wrote:
i don't believe it!

"Worth a read"? Err, no.

mojo wrote: Is it? It has been said a thousand times now it's getting boring. The same people who thought Greg Abbott was an English Mourinho need shut up and move on.

Potts arguably our best player and Robson talismanic, yeah righto

melbourneblues wrote: they must of only seen Robson play in his first season then! It's Mr McGee

jelly wrote: What's the new stuff then?

Brilliantly written, still can't believe that some people seem to think 'very bizarrely' that Curle is a 'good manager

Skimmed it - if you read the news and star then don't bother with this. Lots of copy and paste.

For the sake of doubt, I didn't write this. I'm flattered that you still care enough to think I confected several years worth of material, and a pseudonym, to cover my back though 'mush'.

It's a nice blog though. Richard is right about Curle. Not a pleasant man. As sour as the two old plonkers at the top for sure. Can't bring myself to care too much whilst he's around if I'm frank. Know how MRF and co felt about our messiah (GA) now.

I once got stuck in a lift for some time with a stripped to the waist Roddy Collins, Graham Kavanagh and Keith Curle. It was only after Nigel Pearson oversaw the great escape that I realised I did take something from my traumatic experience, after it was over I had a better understanding of honesty, felt like I had put a shift in and grown a pair, but to this day I still bear the scars with my cauliflower ears.

I kind of lost interest when he described Billy Paynter as a League 2 stalwart and Kav as a solid, unimaginative manager... solid was the one thing Kav's management was never.

johnmc wrote: Must be one of your like minded internet mates then.
What ever happened to your article in the N & S by the way?

chesterviabothel wrote:
Yeah that bit confused me slightly, last season was the first time Paynter has played in L2....

johnmc wrote:

Ahh well, back to supporting Leeds then i hope.

Not really worth a read should have been the name of this thread!

melbourneblues wrote:
What's the Leeds crack Melbourne?

It always baffles me the way people respond to posts like this.

It's a well written piece that sure, you might not agree 100% with, but do you agree with everything written on these boards? There might be two extracts from News & Star articles that the author has used to illustrate his point rather than trying to paraphrase, but there's no problem with that for me. I read the Paynter article a couple of days ago so just skipped that in this blog. Not everyone will know the story there, so there's no problem using those articles that have quotes from players that back up what he's trying to say.

Blog writers are putting themselves out there to be criticised and that will always happen but it just seems so strange that people would rather read a line of terrible English on this forum than a piece that someone has put time and effort in to constructing.

Absolutely worth a read.

So people aren't allowed their opinion?

Just a load of regurgitated rubbish really - not worth a read unless you are an outsider and want a rough idea of what's happened here.

Glad I read that on the way to work or I would've felt like I'd wasted my time. Nowt we haven't heard already.

Folk who are too crap to be professional writers but just haven't realised it are incredibly boring.

Making things up to try to prove a point doesnt make something a good article. For example if i came on here and said Paynter was a proven league 2 striker id be rightly told i was talking balls.

Let's not forget the fact that Tumblr is for 14 year old emotional girls

Can we keep this on topic, instead of throwing around insults.

Johnmc, just a quick question mate, how do you know Keith Curle is an unpleasant man? Just curious if you have had dealings with him personally because whether he has acted out of order regarding treatment of players (I cant say either way but obviously there are issues), I'm very surprised to hear that he would be like that away from the football club to supporters or people in general. I know him personally from playing at Barnsley with him so know a bit about his character away from football.

I'm not a fan of Curle or his methods but I know one or two people that have met him and they said he seems a nice fella*

He might be a lot different when at work but so are a lot of people.

*I am in no way supporting Curle and think his contract should be terminated immediate.

Wazza wrote:

It emerged a few years ago that John used to be a Leeds fan.

Ahh right, so if you put the Leeds connection in with the fact Curle played for Barnsley and Sheff United maybe Lummy has an answer to his question?!

Worth a read? No.

First, the blatant factual inaccuracies. Or, "lies":

"two seasons in a row, the club has sacked the manager early and then found themselves suffering at the wrong end of the table" No. Other way round! We sacked the managers because they had us in the relegation zone with no hope for improvement. Poor writing.

"solid League Two stalwarts like Billy Paynter" - as mentioned above, this is another falsehood. Poor research.

"A solid, unimaginative boss, he was a throwback to a simpler age" Solid boss? Evidence? No, didn't think so. A managerial CV with 1 relegation on it and nothing else. More lies.

"engineered a small turnaround that staved off relegation thanks in no small part to bringing back into the fold the players he had exiled in the first place"
It was Wyke's equaliser against Pompey that kept us up. Check if you don't believe it, but it's true. That put us on 42 points, and therefore above Tranmere (39) and Cheltenham (41).
Also, I'd argue that it was astute signings such as Wyke and Kennedy, and getting the best from Dempsey (including making him captain) that helped keep us up, not eventually bringing on Paynter when 3 other strikers were injured!

" Brad Potts, arguably the best player at the club..." the statement of a man who watches 2 or 3 CUFC games a season at most. Even Potts himself wouldn't make this claim (I hope!) Who cleaned up at the end of the season awards do again? Not Brad!

"Robson spent six years at the club and his status was approaching talismanic" I think Mr Wilson may need to look up the word "talismanic"!

Robson was "Well liked by fans" was he? I seem to remember him being a bit of a marmite player. I like him, hundreds didn't! No doubt he was past it though. Injury meant he couldn't even succeed at gateshead. How could he have in League 2 then?

"a bizarre standoff with Alex Marrow" - Marrow stormed out when not selected. a lack of ability and poor attitude meant he was moved on. Pulled up any trees for his new club? Do we expect any of the released players to? Paynter in his interview neglects to state his awful injury record, massive wage, unwillingness to move within 100 miles of the club, and his 1 solitary league goal in the last 26 months. Why believe everything he says?

Curle had a massive job on, dealing with the awful recruitment of the last 2 years of the moron Abbott, then the even worse Kavanagh - he joined a club with 1 (useless) left back, and 3 centre halves. No right backs. after 4 wins in GK's last 9 months, Curle kept us up with something to spare, and has given us hope with Gillespie, Wyke, Dempsey all doing well and some decent signings. He may not be the right man to take us forward, but compared to the previous 3 abysmal managers he's practically Matt sodding Busby.

Bloggers like this really need to try harder, and instead trying to warp the truth into their half-baked theories, instead start with the facts and work from there.

Worth a read? Not even close.

sirjimmyglass wrote:
It is riddled with errors, so it isn't a good piece at all, that is the problem, alongside sensationalizing for the sake of it.

Pile of crap, in fact CCU would have done better.

Thought ccu had a 1st in Journalism or somet?

Published Author me you know...

Will never beat my entry in the Euro Football Weekends Magazine my son or me Indoor Supers at the Microdot Exhibition!

deeksme wrote:
Ha, top post. I used to love picking things apart in that fashion, just can't be a*sed these days though! Well done, 100000x better read than the "article".

I wholeheartedly agree with the comments.

Also, can I add where the writer says 'Balanta doesn't scream promotion player at you'

2013 he played for Yeovil. They got promoted

Last season, played for Bristol rovers. They got promoted.


The last 2 clubs he's been at, have been promoted. How's that 'not a promotion player???'

Deeksme is right on the money with his minor rant. If that blog was being transmitted into space for aliens to listen to they might have believed some of it. Anyone closer to home can see right through it.

deeksme wrote:
Great post mate, couldn't agree more.