TOPIC: Germany new years eve sex attacks

Bit of a media hush until the past few days but the scenes in cologne look pretty terrifying to say the least so much for opening your borders and welcoming these [censored] into your country worrying times for our youngsters and future generations to come .

Can't come out with things like that in this day & age Alan, it's racist!

Dress it up like you will and call them refugees, the facts still remain. Too big a influx into a country and there will be trouble. You reap what you sow Merkel.

You've got to feel for these refugees who run from persecution and fear for they're lives , only to have their named tarnished by a few individuals but this divide which is forming in european society is playing into the hands of people who just want war.

i think the refugees have been doing enough feeling, that's whats got them into trouble here.

Alan wrote:
I'm sure you were all saying the same when that 3 year old Alan Kurdi was being washed up dead on the beach?

Germany has accepted more than a million refugees this year, there was around 1,000 in Cologne. 0.1%.

120 sexual assaults, being generous, they were all committed by different [censored]. Your talking ~0.01% of Asylum Seekers.

Find the [censored], arrest them, deport them. End of story.

Oh yeah, i'd also put money on more than 1 in a 1,000 in Carlisle being a wrong 'un.

Doesn't make it right or okay for the poor woman, raped and molested in a public place, I am guessing it was witnessed by plenty of "innocent" immigrants, shame then that they didn't step into help the victims or report the scummier parts of their own society to the police.

We keep being told a decent muslim abhors violence and such like but maybe they need to step up to the plate and help us help them.

Would you have stood about Carlisle train station while woman were being raped Armo ?

Of course it doesn't make it right for the woman Bluealf.

Your also right, you are guessing, you don't know if it was witnessed by anyone, just like I don't.

But, hey, don't let facts get in the way of your "guessing".

both cultures are so far apart that they will never intergrate, they havent managed to do so in the last 1000 years and wont in the next 1000 what is this obsession with everyone getting on its just not human nature

I have a lot of sympathy with refugees and their plight but if the stories are true nothing justifies rape
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/...-years-a6800666.html

142/156gimp wrote:
Tribalism is natural and healthy (the selfish gene anybody?). It's everywhere, from the continental level ([censored] paki's), country level (two world wars and one world cup), down to regions (soft southern shandy drinking wooftas) and even, shock horror, football teams.

It's healthy as long as it's overridden by a sense of compassion and empathy for our fellow man.

Who doesn't feel sorry for your average Syrian with a despotic uber-[censored] of a dictator on one side and an apocalyptic death cult on the other? Do you think they're happy to have to risk their lives to move to a foreign country with "shitty weather" and "funny food"; or would they rather live in a stable, prosperous Syria?

Is anyone surprised?? Some naive people on here.

Lot of people capable of this stuff in Germany before the 2015 influx. Oktoberfest in Munich is well known for having sexual assaults by Turks.

Very naive in parts of Germany on a range of subjects, many still trying to cleanse their nations past but not understanding it is hurting their own in some cases by doing it.

One issue that has been interesting is how they dealt with the "doner murders" have a read of that if you have five minutes. Really was like the police weren't interested because of the origin of those murdered.

Wazza wrote:
"Doner murders" i wondered what was in those Kebabs.

Problem is Merkel let anyone in with no checks, including pervs and islamists as well as the oppressed, she's made Donald Trump look on the ball, well done woman

Cameron for all his faults said he'd let people in after checking their background at refugee camps

You take a million people from anywhere in the world (UK included) and a certain percentage will be criminals, sex offenders, terrorist sympathisers, hold dodgy views etc.

The whole point of an immigration system is to filter out that minority so your left with the decent majority. Germany's approach of throwing border controls out the window and encouraging anyone, anywhere, to travel to the EU means they have no way of knowing who any of these people actually are. They have decided its worth accepting those percentages that you wouldn't normally allow in, to facilitate taking the rest who are decent people. It all sounds very noble, but the problem is that the minority that are undesirable will cause havoc and tar the rest. It was inevitable - you have to have some kind of check as to who these people are, their backgrounds etc. If not you end up with scenes like in Cologne.

The other issue is how many of these people are Syrians and how many are from other countries? Syria's a warzone so people seem to be happy with taking them. But then so is Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan etc. Shouldn't the EU be allowing all those people as well? What about countries like Bangladesh or some of the African countries where there's no war but life is incredible poor and difficult? Shouldn't we let them come also as they are just trying to make a better life for themselves and escape poverty? And so you end up realising that there can be a case made for anyone not already living in the developed world to move here. And the question then arises - where do you stop? At some point you have to be harsh and say no.

Double post

orfc wrote:
Heaven forbid she'd let in "Islamists" as well as the oppressed.

Here's a novel idea? How about treating all people as innocent until found guilty? By all means, try them, find them guilty, send them down and then, when released, deport the fuckers but let's not just refuse entry to the majority because of the actions of a minority eh?

Nah, I'm all for being "picky" who we take in, the Aussies and Kiwi's seem to get away with it without much fuss or accusations of racism. Not forgetting the Yanks who act as world police yet take next to none of the people who's displacement they've caused. This is a case of reaping what you sow. Rotherham anybody?

Anybody watch Crimewatch nowadays? It's fkin full of 'em!

Merkel and the Krauts trying to make up for past atrocerties, Well up your Mrs you wanted them you got em. As has been stated you reap what you sow.....

Armo wrote:
Certainly, and as Cameron said to Merkel etc, it's best to do that filtering before they get to your country

Trump hitting the nail on the head

If you let enough people in from countries who class women as second class citizens don't be surprised when it happens here........

Mashie Niblick wrote:

nah.....its not as good as it used to be

Sums up Germany what was on news there in Cologne today, pegida on one side and the anti fascists on the other screaming "nazis out". Been going on for 18 months now just this stuff has made other nations sit up and listen. Absolute mess like.

orfc wrote:
I'm sure there is a wealth of information available on Syrian refugees from their Government the pig shagger is bombing, there are only 4m of them after all. Assad has already emptied the prisons and mental asylums. If they are not Syrian they just claim to have lost their passports, no way of checking.

Pig shagger couldn't check he was sitting the right way on a toilet

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3396091...riences-victims.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3397021...me-Cologne-year.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395390...d-spread-Europe.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3395924...c-swimming-pool.html

It's not looking good for Europe, The board's lefties are very quiet.........

Stinkyturner wrote:
If migrants are proved to commit crimes they should be arrested and sent back.
Taking one of your links from the the Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3397021...me-Cologne-year.html
The statistics clearly show that Syrian, Iraqi and Afghan migrants are not a problem. To take a quote from your article
'People from these countries are so far not a problem from a criminal perspective', according to a report in the magazine Forum.



The issue is migrants from Africa. In the good old days the EU bunged Qaddafi a few billion in aid a year and he policed the Mediterranean border. The US backed up by others including the pig shagger decided to remove Qaddafi so now the north African border is open, across they come raping and pillaging as they wish and of course for the US it is no problem.


Did that help?
www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/01/eu...-gaddafi-immigration

Armo wrote:
Feck me talk about naive. It's an invading army. Most of them don't even have passports because they ain't even Syrian. As for the little boy who's body was washed up its a fact that those photos were staged. Wake up you idiots before it's too late.

Any proof for stating it was staged? I'd love to see it.

Armo wrote:
You will see a lot more if you open your eyes...

It was reported by several newspapers (not the guardian) a week or so after the event. I'm not saying the boy didn't die just that they moved the body to make it more 'photogenic'. The father was implicated in people smuggling as I recall but I guess that wouldn't fit the socialist narrative.

Ahhh, you mean the picture of his brother who also drowned at the same time? You know, alongside their mother?

The second picture which was claimed to show the body in a different position was of Galip Kurdi.

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/katie-...-beach-10516423.html (not the Guardian)

Why ain't Saudi Arabia taking in these 'refugees'? They're all Sunni Wahhabi ain't they? I know if I was a refugee I much prefer to go to a country with similar values to me rather than a foreign infidel country. I'd also rather not travel through half a dozen countries to reach 'safety'.

That's a different point. I'm still waiting for your proof that Alan Kurdi's body was staged.

I can't post links. Answer my question.

Yeah, i have this argument before (not with you).

Throw out something outlandish, be proved wrong, ignore the answer and throw out another outlandish point.

But, in answer to your question. There are 500,000 Syrian refugees in Saudi (out of a population of 31 million).

europe.newsweek.com/gulf-states-are-taki...rian-refugees-401131

Germany has a population of 80 million. Europe has a population of 742 million.

Knockout_knockers wrote: What does Wahhabism have to do with it? Who said all the refugees are into that? I understand your concerns but at least get your facts straight or you look a bit dim.

90% are from that tradition with 2% Christian. Don't believe Saudi has taken half a million 'refugees' for a second. Keep your head in the sand. Why don't you allow a family to have your spare room?

Armo wrote:
Can't read your link without registering and I get enough crap sent to my email address.

I've proved a link substantiating that claim. If you don't believe me, believe Newsweek and, if you don't believe them, believe the world bank.

econ.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTDE...itePK:476883,00.html

I think if either of us are keeping our heads in the sand......................

Your head is up your a rse.

Hmmm, make a claim, have it refuted.

Ignore the answer and make another outlandish claim.

This time, when that's refuted, start hurling the insults.

Way to win an argument.

Armo wrote:
Didn't look like the actions of a minority to me ( going by what I empirically observed on the TV). How can you check the background of people who have no passport or papers? There is plenty on youtube about the child's death and the lack of action by Saudi and other Middle East nations.

I've already answered that but i'll go again.

Germany has had 1.5 million asylum claims last year.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34442121

There was an estimated 1,000 men involved in the sex attacks in Cologne.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35241808

That's 0.00066%.

What's your definition of a minority?

Knockout, I thought you might also enjoy these from youtube.

Proof moon landing was a fake:


Proof no planes hit the twin towers:


and proof of time travel:


Enjoy!

Stinkyturner wrote:
There is a chance it was staged but that is common practice. Those BBC reports you have been watching on the evil Syrian/ Russian Government

Those poor starving children evil President Assad is killing
www.globalresearch.ca/more-puzzles-about...-documentary/5499533
And the BBC being found guilty of telling porkies about 9/11
beforeitsnews.com/9-11-and-ground-zero/2...p-video-2440298.html


Remember to open both eyes when you open them

How many refugees are in Cologne? What % of them outside the cathedral took parts in the attacks? The police denied it was anything to do with refugees at first WHY? The San Bernadino attacks were committed by Islamists but the media spent the first day reporting that the police were looking for three white males. And before you say anything it's all related to the influx of Islamic migrants/refugees into the west and the denial of our leaders that it is a problem.

There again I'm a white Christian so I'm obviously a crazy racist.

Anyone with half a brain knows Assad ain't the villain.