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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:21 #1

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@bbccumbriasport CARLISLE: Andrew Jenkins says 'billionaire' is still a 'live option' 277 days on from the initial approach
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:27 #2

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Is it the first of April
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:31 #3

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"According to the latest e-mail, all I need to do now to complete the deal is send him my date of birth, bank account number and sort code" he continued with the reporter.

I really do worry if he's 'all there' and in good health these days.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:33 #4

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This is the football equivalent of going on an awful first date, incorrectly thinking it went really well, then telling everyone your date is going to be your boyfriend/girlfriend.

Absolute loon.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:36 #5

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CARLISLE United chairman Andrew Jenkins has insisted a mystery overseas billionaire investor remains a "live option" for the club - despite 277 days having now passed since an initial approach.

The Brunton Park supremo uses his programme notes today to claim that, while he has demanded to know "where we stand" with the unnamed person, Carlisle are still not giving up on the idea.

United have been ridiculed by many fans for persisting with the idea that a mega-rich foreign suitor remains interested despite nine months without a formal offer.

Jenkins conceded that "things have gone quiet from their end" but Carlisle's owners are not yet ready to dismiss the mystery person.

Jenkins said: "I have recently spoken to the person representing the overseas investor who approached us last year.

"Things have gone quiet from their end, even though the option is still live at this moment in time.

"But I've told them that we're in a position where we need to know where we stand as a club."

Jenkins insisted he would name the person "when the time is right" but said Carlisle wanted to ensure they had done "everything we were asked" by the overseas party.

He added: "It was, we believe, a genuine approach and we have treated it as such every step of the way.

"They asked for confidentiality and we have adhered to that, but there will come a point when we will need to draw a line and tell our fans where that interest came from."

The "genuine and firm" interest of the overseas party, later described as a "billionaire" was first announced on May 19 last year.

Jenkins also today comments for the first time on United's response to a recent £2 million investment proposal from local businessmen and the Carlisle United Official Supporters' Club.

Those behind the proposal last week said their approach had been knocked back by Carlisle's owners.

The 79-year-old Jenkins said he was "surprised" that the offer "indicated" he would have to write off £1.6 million worth of loans that he and his firm Pioneer had made to United.

He also said the business/CUOSC plan gave "no indication" how other loans - £20,000 to fellow owner John Nixon and £10,000 to director Lord Clark - would be repaid.

Jenkins said those behind the proposal refused to name investors, despite also claiming that some of the potential names had already been named by the club in its own investment proposals.

Jenkins adding that "verbal commitment" of funds was different to receiving the pledged investment, and said the club "awaited detail" on how CUOSC planned to raise £500,000 that formed their part of the proposal.

The Blues chairman said the bidders' plan to appoint a managing director at £100,000 a year was "not needed", while claiming they also wanted to sign "better players for smaller wages".

The chairman, meanwhile, claimed United have been "financially secure for a good number of years" despite the club having suffered about £2m of operating losses in four seasons before this year.

He added: "We are always looking for new investment and will continue to do so.

"I think the way forward is for those investors who are interested in investing in Carlisle United to come forward and meet with us.

"We have a complete understanding that we need to have a succession plan and we will continue to prepare for that, but it has to be done through the correct processes of the boardroom."

CUOSC are holding a members' meeting next Friday where their board members, plus businessmen Robin Brown and Graham Mossop, will answer questions on their £2m proposal.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:46 #6

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Interestingly, with Bristol Rovers being taken over by wealthy foreign investors, I was talking to someone who has their finger on the pulse in Bristol. A major difference between us and them is, they had little debt in comparison to us. So would you take over a club that cost you very little or where you handed over nigh on 2 million to one creditor? That debt is a big problem for anyone looking to invest in us and precisely why the custodians are turning things down willy nilly!
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:50 #7

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Jenkins is inferring the offer was a half baked one with very little detail and I tend to agree I'm afraid. Robin Brown and his cronies aren't the way forward.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 09:53 #8

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Not necesarily disagreeing Nobby but I suspect he wasn't getting his coin back either. Oh and Nixon's 10k and steele's 20k are small beef in the grand scheme of things don't you think?
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:05 #9

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;) Jenkins + magic mushrooms + waccy bacccy = Off his Trolly.....
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:07 #10

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According to Claire Winder...

"Rather surprised by the AJ programme comments as I was told along with other 1921 Board Members that as of end of Jan HC were moving on."
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:10 #11

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They're even too stupid to realise they had an opportunity to draw a line under the whole billionaire saga by claiming it was the people who bought Bristol rovers yesterday, so it will drag on.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:16 #12

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cufcdeano wrote:
According to Claire Winder...

"Rather surprised by the AJ programme comments as I was told along with other 1921 Board Members that as of end of Jan HC were moving on."

Lie after lie, contradiction after contradiction, shan after shan.

Pack of dick heads them lot. But I'd bet that nobody says anything to any of the custodians today.


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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:19 #13

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Fred writes his debt off.

Jenkins, reading between the lines, wants all of his back.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:52 #14

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If Jenkins was that bothered about getting his money back or at least some return he would of accepted the share offer but he rejected it with little then a polite acknowledgement of the offer, so to use that as an excuse is piss poor.

Now Claire is saying she got told something completely different in the meeting to what has been publicised by Jenkins, you can't make it up.

Really crazy - I was against the trusts deal and still am but seriously anybody is better than those 3.

Found it rather funny when story "waivered" his loan AJ and JN said right thing to do thanks but now AJ and JN are expecting their loans to be paid in full, in it for themselves!
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 10:56 #15

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I assume the Nixon debt is from actual money loaned, not for unpaid time worked.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 11:03 #16

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Correct, he loaned the club 20k.

I'm told that in his early days as MD, he was taking a substantial salary - but hasn't been for a number of years now.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 11:06 #17

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20k is peanuts in the scheme of things.

How much did he pay for his shares?
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 11:17 #18

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Sadly, it is becoming more clear how small time these guys are. I suppose when you look at their history, they have never been out into the big bad world......sad.

AJ is around 80 for gods sake, and appears to be the leading light.................
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 11:41 #19

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Tweet from Andy Bell on the matter:

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"Billionaire" option with a handful of carefully selected local investors seems best option for the club even if it does not include me"
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 11:52 #20

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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:05 #21

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thetashkentterror wrote:
Fred writes his debt off.

Jenkins, reading between the lines, wants all of his back.

Problem is, we owe AJ & Pioneer. AJ would gain a lot of respect if he wiped his personal and set out a staged repayment to Pioneer IMO...
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:10 #22

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Why cant i work out who HC is?.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:13 #23

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Holding Company mate.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:15 #24

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Dtr wrote:
Holding Company mate.

Thanks, i was right that in thinking its because im a bit of a thicko ;)
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:26 #25

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Full text of Jenkins' comments....

boards.footymad.net/carlisleunited-mad/2...#mQPRG7WpBP7ubGvY.97
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:38 #26

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I think the key bit is him saying hes been a director for 56 years. He isnt giving that up until hes carried out. As for Nixons loan i bet if he was given a cheque for it tomorrow he'd rip it up.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:47 #27

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There's no thoughts whatsoever from any of the three amigos about leaving the club just like what most of us thought. They just want someone to give them more cash so they can carry on bumbling along and Nixon can carry on his FA/FL perks.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 12:53 #28

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Dancingbear wrote:
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Holding Company mate.

Thanks, i was right that in thinking its because im a bit of a thicko ;)

I had/have the same problem DB!
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 13:08 #29

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@bbccumbriasport CARLISLE: Andrew Jenkins says 'billionaire' is still a 'live option' 277 days on from the initial approach

He's either thick or he thinks we are.

Or it could be both.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 13:26 #30

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Can't even lie straight! There is still a billionaire but want to still issues shares to one individual which was three previously. The one must be Andy Bell with his comments on Twitter. A owner who doesn't invest money into the club but just merely loans it and makes it almost impossible for a buyer to invest. Also he states that they are financial secure, oh expect the 1.6 million debt! If they have knocked back the investment proposal after one meeting that says it all. They could of done all the DD got further down the line with names and all the questions answered they wanted hen pulled out! It is no wonder that there is only one investor prepared to invest in them!
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 13:28 #31

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CCU wrote:
@bbccumbriasport CARLISLE: Andrew Jenkins says 'billionaire' is still a 'live option' 277 days on from the initial approach

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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 14:33 #32

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Dancingbear wrote:
I think the key bit is him saying hes been a director for 56 years. He isnt giving that up until hes carried out. As for Nixons loan i bet if he was given a cheque for it tomorrow he'd rip it up.

Said exactly same to a mate other day. How old is AJ? 79? Our next door neighbour is 90 and he's still fit as a fiddle... :unsure: Not about the money. They couldn't bare the thought of not having any involvement in CUFC. [censored].
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 15:17 #33

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griff wrote:
Full text of Jenkins' comments....

boards.footymad.net/carlisleunited-mad/2...#mQPRG7WpBP7ubGvY.97

Did he write this himself? Or was it dictated and published verbatim, as it's blindingly obvious that a proof reader has been nowhere near it. I've read it through three times, and it still makes no coherent sense. Does he seriously expect any sentient being to swallow this sh*t whole? Pun intended.

Its the ramblings , excuses, contradictions and self-justifications of a sad old man well overdue a nice long nap in a nice comfy chair in a home for the terminally bewildered.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 15:28 #34

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If Jenkins was that bothered about getting his money back or at least some return he would have accepted the share offer but he rejected it with little (more?) than a polite acknowledgement of the offer, so to use that as an excuse is piss poor.

Now Claire is saying she was told something completely different in the meeting to what was publicised by Jenkins, you couldn't make it up.

Really crazy - I was against the trust's deal and still am but seriously anybody is better than those 3.

Found it rather funny when story "waivered" his loan AJ and JN said right thing to do thanks but now AJ and JN are expecting their loans to be paid in full, in it for themselves!

I found it rather funny that you are pulling up others for spelling and grammatical errors. I've corrected and highlighted a couple of really obvious ones for you B)
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 17:45 #35

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All i can say is" rubbish, bullshit, lies and the man.is in cloud cuckoo land."

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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 17:46 #36

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Hes completely lost the plot, how does he still think that anyone believes he ever existed.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 17:52 #37

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A billionaire would have come in and cleared the deadwood from top to bottom... jenkins says it went cold... thats right..they didnt want to do business with a bunch of selfish bumbling amateurs....or the truth is there was never a billionaire so jenkins give it up you stupid old get.

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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 17:52 #38

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If Jenkins was that bothered about getting his money back or at least some return he would have accepted the share offer but he rejected it with little (more?) than a polite acknowledgement of the offer, so to use that as an excuse is piss poor.

Now Claire is saying she was told something completely different in the meeting to what was publicised by Jenkins, you couldn't make it up.

Really crazy - I was against the trust's deal and still am but seriously anybody is better than those 3.

Found it rather funny when story "waivered" his loan AJ and JN said right thing to do thanks but now AJ and JN are expecting their loans to be paid in full, in it for themselves!

I found it rather funny that you are pulling up others for spelling and grammatical errors. I've corrected and highlighted a couple of really obvious ones for you B)

Erm I've never critisiced anyone's spelling on here so you've got that wrong. I struggle with spelling, so what, but I'm no position to criticise others about it!
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 17:58 #39

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Who gives a shite about spellinh...mine id ghluffding shockingggg;-)

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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 18:28 #40

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:cheer: If they'd said a milloinaire was interested in the club I could bave swallowed that, But a billionaire never. Billionaires look to buy Premier league clubs not a piss pot 2nd Div club, The mans seriously deluded and should be sectioned under the mental health act.....
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 18:32 #41

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Sorry Mullen, nothing personal. Just needed to empty my sack, so to speak, with this board closing in 9 days time.

I'd offer to run it, but I'd never pass the fit and proper person's test

If I ruled the board, every day would be swearie-filter free
Every poster could post whatever he wanted
As long as he took full responsibility,
Sorry, I'm getting carried away. ;)
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 19:50 #42

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Despite the programme notes,which have been a source of much amusement,there were a couple of highlights today

-Claire Winder -Claire proved she is no puppet and her incisive comments highlighted the fact that the 1921 board has no real purpose-all the controls remain above.The 1921 board of course is entirely dependent on the benevolence of AJ who has to sign off the audit as financier each year.I very much doubt the auditors would sign them off without AJ confirming his continuing support-therein lies the inherent problem.

Jabo-what a decent bloke this guy seems.He spoke very well on the radio after the match,was eloquent,amusing and very honest.

It is disappointing that the new offer has been treated with disdain-it will be worth hearing the other side's detailed view on the offer next week though I won't be there myself.I know Robin Brown and Graham very well-they are highly intelligent guys with track records in running and exiting successful businesses.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 20 Feb 2025 20:13 #43

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thebadger wrote:
Sorry Mullen, nothing personal. Just needed to empty my sack, so to speak, with this board closing in 9 days time.

I'd offer to run it, but I'd never pass the fit and proper person's test

If I ruled the board, every day would be swearie-filter free
Every poster could post whatever he wanted
As long as he took full responsibility,
Sorry, I'm getting carried away. ;)

The board aint closing mate, a few have come to its rescue.
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 08:15 #44

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Are you aloud to say who it is at this stage, Deano? Or have they insisted on a confidentiality clause?
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 08:56 #45

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All will be revealed in 5-10 days.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 09:14 #46

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I have said all along that a Billionaire was there and the latest statement proves it. AJ has now said the name will be released and I think that now has to happen.Will any investment take place from the Billionaire, I doubt it.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 09:33 #47

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How does that statement prove it you idiot?
Super blues never lose.
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 09:42 #48

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I actually know the name of the investor, assuming it is the same one who contacted me with an offer of a substantial investment. His name is Mr Samual Mbumba, he has a personal fortune of over 2 billion USD and all I have to do is send him my bank account details and he'll transfer the money into my Halifax account form his residence in Lagos. Huh, some people have no faith
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Re:Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 09:53 #49

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Sorry Mullen, nothing personal. Just needed to empty my sack, so to speak, with this board closing in 9 days time.

I'd offer to run it, but I'd never pass the fit and proper person's test

If I ruled the board, every day would be swearie-filter free
Every poster could post whatever he wanted
As long as he took full responsibility,
Sorry, I'm getting carried away. ;)

The board aint closing mate, a few have come to its rescue.

A few? Is it a consortium?
Good news anyway, enjoy your retirement :)
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Billionaire still a 'live option' according to AJ! 21 Feb 2025 10:00 #50

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if foreign investors have come knocking on our door, buying lower league clubs seems to have become fashionable as goings on at Northampton, Crawley and Bristol Rovers demonstrate.

The length of time it has taken to progress suggests it wasn't anything more than a speculative enquiry and any deal is dead in the water. The Board should move on and name names now
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