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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 12:54 #1

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Let's see what we think now, and then again just before the Referendum to see how opinion may have changed.

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 12:55 #2

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 12:56 #3

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Shake it all about
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 12:58 #4

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We did this a few weeks ago, think it was about 75/25% in favour of leaving...
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:04 #5

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pigeonpete wrote:
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:09 #6

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Out. If only because of all the scaremongering
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:25 #7

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Out. If only because of all the scaremongering

You've caught a nasty dose of SNP there :)

IN!
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:31 #8

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:35 #9

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:54 #10

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 13:57 #11

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 14:05 #12

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 15:35 #13

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OUT!

Cameron is a snivelling coward. He has no intention whatsoever of standing up for this country. He came back from his triumphant "renegotiation" like Neville Chamberlain in 1938, waving a worthless piece of paper and calling it a victory.

Cameron is living proof that just because your parents are rich enough to send you to the best private schools, it doesn't mean you're worth sending. A first rate education wasted on a third rate intellect.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 16:11 #14

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:angry: Cameron went in like John Wayne all guns ablazing, Did,nt tell us they were blanks.....OUT for me....
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 16:26 #15

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Re:EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:32 #17

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Re:EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:34 #18

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Re:EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:34 #19

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:40 #20

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In I would be in the euro too
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:42 #21

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Wish it were that easy don't have enough info to make that decision. Although my head says IN.
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Re:EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 17:46 #22

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Can we also have a referendum to stop this country turning into America...?? Oh wait...

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 18:55 #23

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pacirv wrote:
Wish it were that easy don't have enough info to make that decision. Although my head says IN.
very true.
I certainly think it,s far too important to be trusted to a public vote when you consider the same public vote for performing dogs to win so called talent shows!
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 19:08 #24

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Out, Aus, Su, Fuera.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 19:59 #25

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 20:20 #26

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In. You lot continue to amaze me, little Englanders. Of course you'll all be dead by the time your grandchildren are getting on the bus to pick potatoes in Poland because there is no work here.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 21:34 #27

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Well if Galloway and Farage are voting Out then that will be a resounding IN for me. They will have us going back into the dark ages.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 22:01 #28

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This boils down to two things and two things only. When we went in, in the 70's it was a trade agreement not anything like what we have now, and as nett contributors rather than nett recipients like twenty odd other member states, we will be just fine outside the EU. They don't want us to leave because we tip in nigh on 50m every day. Despite the scaremongering, the EU wont stop trading with a major trade partner like the UK. We've never been in the euro, so that argument falls by the wayside too.

Out, we have little to fear and much to gain.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 22:02 #29

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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 22:05 #30

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Badger hit the spot on his assessment of Mr Cameron. As for jobs, british business would thrive freed from the regulation of Brussels, there is, and there will be, a good deal of scaremongering in the coming weeks by the Euro supporters on the wasteland Britain will become should the plebs vote out. Britain has been a trading nation for centuries and will continue to be so, and the talk of Europe hanging tariffs on British trade with Europe - crap - we import far more from Europe than we export, they ain`t gonna risk their goods coming into Britain having tariffs added.
The original concept of the Common Market wasn`t a bad idea, but as the EU has evolved, so deeper political and constitutional union has evolved, which given the diverse lifestyles, work ethics and political systems of the European countries is sooner or later bound to fail.
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EU - in / ou 20 Feb 2025 23:03 #31

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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 00:14 #32

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If we vote out what happens to the eurovision?
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 09:35 #33

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Head tells me in, heart out. The treasury tells us we pay £5bn more than we receive but the CBI calculates that membership brings Euro20bn in benefits so economically we are better staying in. Having worked for the EU my heart tells me we should quit. My biggest fear is what a [censored] up of Britain Cameron will make if freed from the shackles of the EU, coming out of the International Agreements on Human Rights! We should be scared of that.
Independent Scotland, England out, Scotland in, that would be best for me
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 09:37 #34

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If we vote out what happens to the eurovision?

We should retire from it in Wogan's memory anyway. Save the whole hassle of a shit song being picked then no sod scoring us any points! We could put Adele or 1Direction up and they'd still finish last, the rest of them just can't be bothered with us!
Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 09:39 #35

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:angry: If anybody thinks Posh Boys come back with a good deal, Listen to his sabre rattling commments in 2013 on what he was gonna achieve for the UK from Brussels....
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 10:28 #36

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Independent Scotland, England out, Scotland in, that would be best for me

Marko,.if scotland left the uk while the uk was in the eu, it would leave the eu also - because it's the uk that's the member. If scotland left the uk after the uk left the eu, it would still be out the eu also. The only way it could get back in - and this was pointed out in the scottish referendum - would be to rejoin under every eu condition going, currency, army, politiical union, no special get outs. Seems a daft thing to wish for when you say your heart says stay out.
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 10:44 #37

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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 11:07 #38

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In. I generally vote for the opposite of what Rupert Murdoch tells me to.
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 12:10 #39

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A resounding OUT. As I said last time, I'm yet to hear a decent single reason for staying in, and this remains the case.

Find it astounding that adults on this board don't have the intellect to vote with their own minds as opposed to how others have voted. Couldn't care less how Farage, Galloway or Murdoch will vote. Think for yourself ffs.
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Re:EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 13:18 #40

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In. The Tory scum will have a field day ripping away human rights and workers rights if we come out. We'll turn into the USA in respect of workers rights.

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It'll be out without a shadow of a doubt though. Far too many Little Englanders who won't be fully aware of the consequences of leaving and are just voting out of blind nationalism.

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Independent Scotland, England out, Scotland in, that would be best for me

Marko,.if scotland left the uk while the uk was in the eu, it would leave the eu also - because it's the uk that's the member. If scotland left the uk after the uk left the eu, it would still be out the eu also. The only way it could get back in - and this was pointed out in the scottish referendum - would be to rejoin under every eu condition going, currency, army, politiical union, no special get outs. Seems a daft thing to wish for when you say your heart says stay out.

Not sure where that comes from . If we look at the first referendum it was to leave the UK. Scotland is/was part of the EU so we would automatically assume membership. If Britain leaves the EU then an independent Scotland in principle would have to apply for membership. Having said that the chances of the EU not fast tracking Scotland is virtual nothing, especially as 62% of Scots want to remain- just look at how the EU comromised when Greenland voted to leave. Could be a massive jobs boost for Scotland, no bombing Libya and no nuclear weapons that don't work- more social programmes. This could be very good for us, very good indeed
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Re:EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 13:43 #43

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It'll be out without a shadow of a doubt though. Far too many Little Englanders who won't be fully aware of the consequences of leaving and are just voting out of blind nationalism.

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Current betting:
Stay - 4/11
Leave - 5/2

That's that theory gone for now!
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Re:RE: Re:EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 13:55 #45

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It'll be out without a shadow of a doubt though. Far too many Little Englanders who won't be fully aware of the consequences of leaving and are just voting out of blind nationalism.

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Leave - 5/2

That's that theory gone for now!
Hardly an accurate representation ccu! That's what folk think will happen, not what people are going to vote for.

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It'll be out without a shadow of a doubt though. Far too many Little Englanders who won't be fully aware of the consequences of leaving and are just voting out of blind nationalism.

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Enlighten us with the consequences then oh wise one.
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Re:EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 15:03 #47

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Oot. Like, eh.
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 15:21 #48

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Boris has declared he wants to be OUT...

@bbclaurak Boris WILL campaign to leave the EU -Huge boost for Out, big blow for number ten altho expected - more soon
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EU - in / ou 21 Feb 2025 15:29 #49

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These lads have sussed it out
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Independent Scotland, England out, Scotland in, that would be best for me

Marko,.if scotland left the uk while the uk was in the eu, it would leave the eu also - because it's the uk that's the member. If scotland left the uk after the uk left the eu, it would still be out the eu also. The only way it could get back in - and this was pointed out in the scottish referendum - would be to rejoin under every eu condition going, currency, army, politiical union, no special get outs. Seems a daft thing to wish for when you say your heart says stay out.

Not sure where that comes from . If we look at the first referendum it was to leave the UK. Scotland is/was part of the EU so we would automatically assume membership.

Scotland wouldn't have. Scotland is only 'in' the EU for the same reason Egremont is, because it's a part of the UK, and the UK is a member of the EU.

Break either of those 'a part of'/'a member of' relations and Scotland isn't in the EU any more
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