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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 19:17 #1

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I've nothing against curle, in fact I've been a fan since he walked through the door. It seems he has persuaded another player to join today whom had other offers from other clubs and along with othe lads that have been brought in I don't know how he does it. A few of these players have good pedigree and a lot of promise.
With the shackles of constraint that must be round his neck under the current regime how does he manage to talk these players into signing and have them believe that the club has ambition under these liars who only want what they can get out of the club?
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 19:22 #2

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Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 19:23 #3

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I dont think he ever gets the credit for his part in turning this club around from where we were.
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 19:27 #4

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CCU wrote:
Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...
I would when you put it into context of where the club is going and lack of ambition. Not interested in investment and where we are now compared to 3/4 years ago
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 19:34 #5

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huddersfieldcock wrote:
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Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...
I would when you put it into context of where the club is going and lack of ambition. Not interested in investment and where we are now compared to 3/4 years ago

Most players are only interested in who pays the best. We're a big player in this division in that respect, regardless of owners, investment and ambition. That's a harsh truth of players and always will be...
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 20:04 #6

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CCU wrote:
huddersfieldcock wrote:
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Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...
I would when you put it into context of where the club is going and lack of ambition. Not interested in investment and where we are now compared to 3/4 years ago

Most players are only interested in who pays the best. We're a big player in this division in that respect, regardless of owners, investment and ambition. That's a harsh truth of players and always will be...

This is probably right. I'd say only Portsmouth, Donny, Luton, Notts County, Leyton Orient and Blackpool pay more (some of those may pay similar).
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 21:07 #7

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CCU wrote:
Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...

Youre spot on there Dan but its mainly because theyre so out of step that they havnt seen that for the last 5 years other clubs at this level have been finding ways to cut costs whereas weve just carried on doing things like paying relocation costs to players who should just be grateful someone was willing to offer them a contract. And as i understand it if we won the league under Curles incentive plan we would spend the budget plus 20% so as long as were outside the top 5 theres always going to be money left in the budget and if hes decided to do without loan players this year as unless you get a lending club with a benevolent streak like Newcastle last year pro ratIs with expenses and everything loan players can cost you up to twice what the equivalent contracted player would do.
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 21:24 #8

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CCU wrote:
huddersfieldcock wrote:
CCU wrote:
Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...


I would when you put it into context of where the club is going and lack of ambition. Not interested in investment and where we are now compared to 3/4 years ago

Most players are only interested in who pays the best. We're a big player in this division in that respect, regardless of owners, investment and ambition. That's a harsh truth of players and always will be...

Nearly all the new signings say we are a big club....never sure what they mean by that... The ground must impress them is all I'd say ,whatever it seems KC does indeed have s silver tongue
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Keith's silver tongue 04 Jul 2025 21:36 #9

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seesaw50 wrote:
CCU wrote:
huddersfieldcock wrote:
CCU wrote:
Would hardly call a competitive playing budget to be 'shackles of constraint'? Indeed Curle himself has commented that he's got funds available several times during his tenure.

We've been pretty good in terms of backing managers with wages for players over the last few years, it's just some of the signings haven't worked!

Slag the BoD for plenty, but this is one area where they've always done pretty well IMO...


I would when you put it into context of where the club is going and lack of ambition. Not interested in investment and where we are now compared to 3/4 years ago

Most players are only interested in who pays the best. We're a big player in this division in that respect, regardless of owners, investment and ambition. That's a harsh truth of players and always will be...

Nearly all the new signings say we are a big club....never sure what they mean by that... The ground must impress them is all I'd say ,whatever it seems KC does indeed have s silver tongue

Of course we.re seen as a big club the only people who dont see it are Nixon and Jenkins
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Keith's silver tongue 05 Jul 2025 06:50 #10

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What I like is the fact that he never used excuses. Location, wages, league... all things our previous managers moaned about.
Players want to come here now and he must be selling the club well with his ambition, professionalism and drive. Something that has been missing for years. He deserves huge credit.
That said, his interviews can be hard work to listen too. For a man who doesn't lack confidence he talks like he is very nervous at times. Unfair to judge him on that side though, I know.
I hope the club strive to match this outlook and we do all get on the bus and go on this journey.
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Keith's silver tongue 05 Jul 2025 14:25 #11

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bruntonpete wrote:
What I like is the fact that he never used excuses. Location, wages, league... all things our previous managers moaned about.
Players want to come here now and he must be selling the club well with his ambition, professionalism and drive. Something that has been missing for years. He deserves huge credit.
That said, his interviews can be hard work to listen too. For a man who doesn't lack confidence he talks like he is very nervous at times. Unfair to judge him on that side though, I know.
I hope the club strive to match this outlook and we do all get on the bus and go on this journey.

No chance. There are more arguments about buses on here than about anything else.
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