TOPIC: Here we go again...........

A bit of early practice for when Mr Corbyn takes over the asylum..........

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A 24-hour Tube strike will bring London commuters and tourists another bout of travel chaos after unions announced it will go ahead tomorrow.
Thousands of London Undergound workers are set to walk out from 6.30pm on Wednesday in a bitter ongoing row over plans for all-night service on five lines.
The planned strike action will cripple the capital's Tube network for the second time in a month after the first London-wide shut down in 13 years in July.

I may have missed something here, but what control of any of the unions does Mr Corbyn have?

I thought he was a candidate for leader of the Labour Party, not the TUC.

All a bunch of ' heed cases ' if you ask me..................

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Typical of the gang heading the RMT is Senior assistant general secretary Steve Hedley, whose Facebook page includes a photo where he totes a machine gun while dressed in a Soviet Ushanka fur.

The Northern Irishman can be seen giving a raised fist salute in front of pro-IRA “Free Derry” signs in Ulster and the profile features a photo of Leila Khaled, an airline hijacker for the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

He relished in the chaos caused by previous Tube strikes, writing on his Facebook page last year: “Mission accomplished, gridlock achieved, victory to the RMT and our comrades.”

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Jeremy Corbyn just can’t help making friends wherever he goes. He previously described Hamas operatives as ‘friends’ and now he has found time out of his Labour leadership campaign to meet up with his old ‘comrade’ Gerry Adams in Portcullis House. The Sinn Féin president has tweeted a picture of their meet up, which Martin McGuinness also attended:

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Three trade unions with the largest number of members in Northern Ireland have backed Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour leadership contest, provoking anger and disappointment from some local trade unionists.

Mr Corbyn, who will be speaking at the West Belfast Festival on Wednesday, invited convicted IRA bombers Gerard McLoughlin and Linda Quigley to the House of Commons in 1984.
The event happened just two weeks after the terror group had killed five people in the Brighton bomb, which targeted the Conservative Party conference.
Then in 1987, Mr Corbyn observed a minute’s silence for eight IRA members killed by the SAS in an ambush in Gibraltar.
Speaking on BBC’s Sunday Politics, during a Labour leadership debate in July, the Islington North MP said it was his belief that “ultimately Ireland should be reunited”.
The 23-member national Labour link committee of Unison, the main public sector union, has given its backing to Mr Corbyn.

That doesn't tell me why Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party means there would be more Trades Union led strikes.

thesilentone wrote:

Some of the things you post about Corbyn fit with his strongly held (and long term) political views. You neglect to mention his campaigns against apartheid for example, or his campaigning for the end of conflict in Palestine, or his work to try to get Pinochet (Thatcher's mate, remember) put on trial. It may well be distasteful to you, but his views on Northern Ireland are a matter of public record and have been his views for many years. He was proven one of the most honest (not saying much I know) MPs in the house when the expenses scandal was going on 5 or 6 years ago, in one particular year (don't know which) he claimed less in expenses than any other MP. He was massively involved in the march against the Gulf War, he was one of very few Labour MPs to want a inquiry into the Gulf War. He is actually a man of principal, unlike most politicians, and he appears to have stuck to his principals for many years. I don't agree with a lot of what he stands for, but I feel he deserves a god bit of respect for having the bollocks to come out and say what he thinks is right, rather than try to say what the Tory gutter press wants to hear.

He's a far more honest and decent man than any of the other Labour leadership campaigners. And 100 times more decent and honest than Cameron or Osborne.

Another bordering on mentally ill rant. What a surprise.

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Aye, sorry.

I noticed a bit in your rant there about the "gulf War" as a matter of interest why do a lot of people still regard this as a terrible event, I know all about the lies told to get us in there but at the end of the day Sadam was systematically working his way through killing an entire race of people.

Never seems to get a mention from the anti-war or anti Blair set.

I often wonder if they would have preferred not to have gone in and sat wringing their hands after the Kurds had all been exterminated.

Moorlad wrote:
To be fair, John Nixon is 100x more honest and decent than Cameron and Osbourne.

As Tony Benn once said though. "Politicians are divided into signposts and weathercocks. Neil Kinnock gave up everything he believed in to get power and ended up with no one believing him about anything. That makes him a weathercock. Margaret Thatcher was a signpost. The trouble was, I thought her sign pointed in the wrong direction. She was not affected by spin-doctors, she said what she meant and people knew what they were voting for. I see myself as being more of a signpost, like her,"

I would vote for Corbyn any day of the week.

bluealf wrote:
You may also note I said I don't agree with a lot of what he says as well. I did 12 years in the forces, and reckon the greater good was achieved by getting rid of him.

Moorlad wrote:
Wasn't talking to you! You I agree with, just couldn't be a*sed typing that much.

I realised.

Honestly.

Ill give the silent one a pip as i pass his comrades picketing outside Sellafield in the morning.

Lets hope there`s a few burning tyres to make it worth while like them Frenchies...they know how to stage disruption big time - used to be farmers blockading roads, then fishermen now Ferry workers - I have to laugh at the BBC News or ITV for that matter, when they state that "Migrant Activity" in the Channel Tunnel again caused disruption - FIRSTLY it`s the sodding strikers and they get little mention. Wouldn`t happen here, not in 2015!!

cufcmike wrote:

Got to love the lefties - anyone I don't agree with is immediately categorised as dishonest and not decent. It couldn't just be that they have a different opinion from you about how to go about doing things, no they have to be nasty people. And then they have the nerve to call the Tories the nasty party.

As someone who has generally voted Tory, did at the last election (along with more people than any other party managed to get to support it in this strange little thing we call a democracy) and is likely to do so again at the next election, I would be absolutely delighted if Corbyn wins.

As for Benn calling himself a signpost, I think that should be others to decide, not himself.

In general on here common sense prevails, however when it comes to the lunatic militant faction who have infiltrated the Unions, the same select few get hostile.why? You damn the likes of JN, however you support downright barmpot bully boys like those named above. Double standards...........

Just in case you may be tarring me as one of the select few can i go on record as saying i support the workers.

2 million people have died in the middle east since the war started in Iraq. theantimedia.org/war-on-terror-has-taken...lion-lives-globally/
Saddam was a [censored] but he maintained control in an ethnically diverse environment. The speed and level of his killing was simply nothing compared to the US and UK in the middle east. Why are we even there?

Corbyn is a supporter of the vile Chavez/Maduro regime in Venezuela, a country I've visited and have a particular interest in.

He's unfit to lead a political party in this country IMHO.

Dancingbear wrote:
See you in morning DB

Markovitch wrote: saddam is estimated to have murdered 1.5 million to 2 million people during his reign in Iraq...

With regard to those killed by U.S. Coalition forces... Between 2003 invasion of Iraq and 2011 an estimated 150,000 were killed in Iraq.
www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/j...dy-count-report-data

Saddam murdered 80,000 - 100,000 Iraqis every single year in power. (Human rights watch) Although very unsavoury it is pretty conclusive that there are a hell of a lot more iraqi's alive today than there would have been without the Iraq invasion. I don't think you can blame all Middle East deaths on the gulf war... Whatever the lies that led up to the gulf war it did get rid of a mass murdering despot..

Corbyn is a man of principle who doesn't just go with the flow like those members of the Labour Party who would appear to have turned into the Tory-Lite party. I personally hope the Labour Party finds its way back to its true path . Then , hopefully we can have a government who actually look after the people and not target the poor , the sick , and the needy but favour the more financially well-off in our USA clone society

jelly wrote:
So you believe every word they say when yhey manipulate statistics to show that people on zero hours contracts, or sanctioned off benefits, or on their workfare scheme (which the European Court of Human Rights has said is slavery) are all in work. Not to mention the thousands of people who have died having been declared "fit for work" when they were clearly far from it. I myself got sanctioned off benefits a few years ago, because I didn't make my signing on meeting. I couldn't make it, because I had a job interview, which I had told them about. Luckily for me, I got the job, and didn't need benefits after that anyway, but I was lucky. Plenty of others aren't.

cufcmike wrote: The Tories claim to improve the country but all they do is fiddle the figures. Changing the definition of child poverty for example. "Well if you look at the figures, our savage welfare cuts haven't pushed any more children into poverty". And the a*se lickers who voted for them lap up every word.

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Resident Blue wrote: I actually agree with a lot of that, which might surprise a few on here... Corbyn is a man of principle. He is the opposite of the slick, untrustworthy New Labour types that have appeared in the party in recent years... he clearly doesn't care about his image, as he looks like a geography teacher who got pissed and slept in a hedge. He answers questions honestly and does not try to hide any views that may prove unpopular and he has a clear vision of the way the country should be run. That is a breathe of fresh air in politics to be honest. The Labour party is at a real crossroads and needs to find a clear identity or purpose again... it has become difficult to say what the party stands for recently.

The big problem they have is that there simply aren't enough socialists in this country any more. If the Labour party go back to their socialist roots then they won't win a general election. So the Labour party have a difficult choice... do they be true to their principles and try to voice their opinion from the opposition bench and try to be a credible opposition... or do they become New Labour again and try to get back into power, even if that means abandoning certain principles and ideologies along the way. I'm not sure which is the best route for them to be honest.... maybe a split is inevitable.

I will never vote for Corbyn as I personally disagree with the majority of his policies and ideologies.... I don't think he has a cat in hell's chance of ever becoming Prime Minister. He is just unelectable in this country unless there is a massive change in our society, which there won't be. ... BUT he can't be criticised for sticking to his beliefs and principles, and I kind of like the fact that he doesn't give a toss about his image or popularity.

When will the socialists wake and smell the coffee, the Labour party are unelectable under anyone.....why, because of the fat idle militant bully boys who are Labours paymasters, the Unions. Sort them out for a start, and that is the first sign of recovery, the leader is irrelevant. Currently the gullible idiots are being reeled in by London Transport, knowing fine well that strike action is the only thing the militant bully boy's have to negotiate with. Making the introduction of driver-less trains, oh so easy...

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RMT Press Office

TUBE UNION RMT today called for an immediate and indefinite suspension of the Mayor's Night Tube vanity project warning that is so fundamentally flawed from top to bottom it risks wrecking expensive infrastructure, compromising staff and passenger safety and leaving essential safety critical engineering and maintenance works on the shelf in a move that will lead to breakdowns and disruption on an unprecedented scale.

RMT says that is an open secret across the job that senior managers do not believe that the Night Tube is deliverable on the 12th September without unleashing repeated chaos. As a result of the project being dumped on tube bosses on a political whim without proper planning the most basic preparation and planning has not been carried out, not least in terms of calculating and costing the additional staff that will be needed to deliver it without imosing rosters from hell on the existing workforce.

RMT General Secretary Mick Cash said;

"Despite all the bluster from Boris Johnson Londoner's need to be aware that Night Tube was rushed and botched from the off and that is why five weeks before it starts staff are striking because they will not accept that their work/life balance should be wrecked to plug the gaping holes in staffing capacity that should have been dealt with from day one.

"It is a measure of the current shambles that no further talks are planned and staffing posts essential to delivering a safe extension of operating hours are still being axed. That is ridiculous.

"Millions of week day commuters, who fork out a fortune in fares, risk seeing their safety compromised and their services reduced to chaos so that a few thousand revellers can be shipped home in the early hours of Saturday and Sunday morning and experienced tube managers know that. We urgently need to get talks convened with tube professionals who understand the reasons behind a crisis which should never have been allowed to get this far. "

It's Union Bullsh*t Bingo time again.

"Wake up and smell the coffee"

"Militant bully boy's" (always with the incorrect use of apostrophe because right-wing loons are always thick)

Two classics right there.

You forgot paymasters. Always reminds me of the big blue that one

Often history is manipulated by politicians and media of the time. , what we are led to believe is often far from the real truth.One of the biggest atrocities was created by the British against the Irish in the late 1840s early 1850s known has the potatoe famine,up to 5 million people starved to death while we exported ship loads of grain and livestock out of Irish ports under armed guard ,nearly half our armed forces where stationed in Ireland to protect our interests has it was called.The lucky ones made it across to America the unlucky ones died,laws where made forbidding gunpowder to the ordinary people has they tried to hunt wildlife,crafters where evicted and left to starve ,massive Pitts where dug out to dump the bodies of the starved population while the wagons full of grain rolled by under armed guard to the ports to stock pile in Britain,at the time nearly 80 percent of our meat arrived from Ireland.What did we declare ,it was the Irish being totally reliant on the potato that caused the problem.

Dancingbear wrote:
While we're talking about paymasters, hedgefund owners contributed £19m to the Tories last year. Now the Tory government have sold off part of the nation's share in HSBC for £1b less than what was paid for it (they could have got more 2 weeks ago, and if they wait a month it is forecast to rise in price again), who have bought the shares? Mainly hedgefunds.

Will the mail be reporting on that?

Moorlad wrote: Nah, Tory a*se lickers are always happy to point out when Brown sold the gold reserves cheaply though.

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Does that apply to Cameron's intervention in Libya to get rid of Gaddafi which has really helped Isis to get going ?

Moorlad wrote:
Not to mention the privatisation of Royal Mail. Ignoring the fact it should never have been privatised in the first place, it was criminally sold way below its value, and many hedgefund owners, including the bloke who was Osbourne's best man at his wedding, made an absolute killing off it.

loser wrote:
To be fair to all sides, New Labour took spin and lying to new levels. As for Mr Corbyn, he may well be the left wing leader many Labour supporters have been waiting for but will the electorate actually vote them in if the party heads down what many see as an outdated philosophy.

Northumbrian wrote:
That's it in a nutshell, wish i'd read on a bit further!

Given the comments ref Royal Mail. Since the Government sold it's 30% stake, I have just received 6 more shares under the Dividend Re-Investment Plant, the shares were floated at 3.30 and are currently around a fiver, a nice little earner.

For most Royal mail workers, they would see maybe 10 more free shares to add to there portfolio, so a very nice little earner, it is interesting that there has been no further industrial action from the Postal Union since they all became shareholders, I wonder why that is ?

thesilentone wrote:
As long as your alright then eh Jack. What about the poor tax payer, is that not your primary concern?

Given that Nationalised Industries are solely reliant on the taxpayer to stay in business, as they usually loose a shed load of money each year. I would say the taxpayer is getting a very good deal.

What about the railways after privatisation. Loads paid out in subsidies to private firms and if it starts to cost them money, they walk away and the government has to step in.

Not to mention the water, gas and electricity privatisations where the customer is continually fleeced.

thesilentone wrote:
Not the case, all the utilities make profits. They all should be in public ownership. Not owned by the Tory paymasters.

thesilentone wrote:
Not true.

Aren't EDF owned by the French tax payers? So all their profits, end up in the French Treasury. Likewise Arriva are owned by the German tax payers. Both turn over ridiculous profits. They're certainly not "non for profit" organisations!

British Rail was a disaster, poor service, falling passenger numbers, outdated rolling stock and constant industrial action. Since de-regulation it has gone from strength to strength becoming a lesser and lesser burden on the taxpayer year on year.

My Corbyn...........wake up and smell the coffee....

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"I'm interested in the idea that we have a more inclusive, clearer set of objectives. I would want us to have a set of objectives which does include public ownership of some necessary things such as rail."