TOPIC: Plymouth Match Thread

Hery and Assamoah on = too late KC

Don't be too concerned yet. Curle keeps saying we've not done finishing sessions in training yet, maybe we've not covered Defence either. It'll be reet once that starts!

"Knocked off the tip of the d"

BBCRC....

This has gone a bit wrong

With 3 at the back and our best defender and midfielder warming the bench we were always going to be facing uphill.

It is early season though and Wimbledon and Hartlepool will be easier

Hartlepool are top of the league.

Paying the price of our apathy. The board were on the back foot and we shied off and played the cautious game. We should have demanded real change. Instead they threw a few scraps and we were grateful.

crunchblue wrote:
Tony caig has done it...

crunchblue wrote: That means nothing at this stage, they and Plymouth will be closer to the bottom than top come May

ExiledJock wrote:
eh ? was that JN or AJ that slpped for the 4 goals

Don't worry lads, we're signing Dean Leacock on a free

The proverbial game of two halves

Simon Church and Zoko will sort this out once they get here.

If we are still leaking goals like his after 10 games I believe we will be looking for yet another new manager.

Back to 4-5-1 and hoof on Saturday?

Problem is we don't have a plan b we never change. Plymouth knew how we would set up wouldn't it have been great if we had surprised them with something different. Didn't we do something similar a few years ago with a Xmas tree formation that worked until other clubs figured it out.

ParcelPete wrote:
He could do much worse
Maybe play him at right back

sounds like the midfield or wing backs not helping out the defence

Haha don't know why I got my hopes up.. Awful defensively... Again!

How have 3 different managers managed to give us a shite defence for 3 seasons in a row? Beggars belief

It`s Ibhere`s fault - he was due to score 4 tonight to maintain his squence

Curle deserves a new contract, don't you know.

Thompson 4-1

Anyone want to place bets in which player will be the first on Twitter telling us they will 'put it right on Saturday'?

I'll go for Danny Grainger at 22:30

Chris Beard "the neutral" commentator saying slips and mistakes were our undoing, but was singing our praises 1st half.

That's alright then.

Reeves9 wrote: aye it was 1st half

No doubt there will be plenty of positives to take out of this game. NOT.

Stamfordblue wrote: oh the ironic!!

If Curle absolutely insists on playing 3 at the back...Get Troy off the bench and put him in for Raynes, get Courtney back from his trial and put him in for Grainger, then put Atkinson alongside them once he returns from his injury.

I'm just being daft in thinking that will actually happen though.

spanblue wrote:
Well there was for Plymouth 4 easy goals which our so called defence handed on a plate to them...............................
we really need to get the defence sorted and back to the flat back four we can still play the passing game well from midfield

Don't we need to sign new defenders?

Remember Troy and Courtney were part of the shit tip we had last season. I know Troy is decent, but Courtney had a dreadful season defensively.

I was just thinking about Atkinson. Since he got injured we've conceded 8. That could be done to him or Miller moving inside meaning we're exposed in the wide areas.

Maybe Leacock could be the answer as well as Troy and Atkinson. Something needs to change anyway but I don't think just reverting back to last seasons failures is the answer.

We're playing some nice stuff according to some random fella on RC.. If it wasn't for 4 mistakes we'd be coming back with the three points. Keith putting his mark on team and certainly starting to look like his side now.

crunchblue wrote:
CMW was fannied about being played in the middle of the park, and has never been the same since!

Leacock is training with a view to a trial, which suggests he's ages away from competitive football?

crunchblue wrote:
I hope something works. Troy i definitely feel needs to be in there somewhere, Courtney struggled last season but then again so did Grainger, arguably more so, yet he retains his place in the side week in and week out. Courtney's technique also lends itself more to the style of football we're attempting to play, his ball playing abilities are better than any of our other defenders, so that could work in his favour.

Leacock could make a difference, but something tells me Curle's more likely to put him alongside Raynes and Grainger than any other setup. Once Atkinson gets back i'd stick him in the centre and play Miller as wing back, Brough/McQueen on the other side. McQueen can play either side too so can provide good competition if he's not in the side based on what i've seen of him. I'm being hopeful here though, i'm losing whatever faith i had left in our defenders.

CCU wrote: Before he got shifted into midfield he was poor. I don't think it's a lack of ability I just think his understanding, positional sense and reading of the game isn't up to scratch. Maybe BW think they can give him the coaching he needs to get the potential out of him.

Leacock may be shit as well, but I really don't think going back to last seasons formula is the answer.

I also think playing full backs as full backs, either side of the 3. As we did at Mansfield would greatly help the situation.

crunchblue wrote:
@officialcufc: Keith Curle has confirmed Bolton's request for a longer look at CMW has been rejected and they have been told to take him on loan or move on

This maybe a bit controversial but I think this is to do with the way they are set up. This playing from the back shit clearly isn't working, time and time again during pre-season and in the season we are getting ourselves in the poo poo over it, I'm not completely blaming Curle here, as it is quite refreshing to try and play a different way, however the players simply don't have the nouse to play it properly, its simply inviting the opposition to push further up the pitch to make mistakes.
However I would say that Curle is a complete and utter clown for keeping one of the best defenders in this league on the bench (Troy).

A win on Saturday looking so important with QPR and Hartlepool away the wheels could be coming off yet another season!

BBC Cumbria Sport ‏@bbccumbriasport 1m1 minute ago
CURLE: 'I don't like conceding goals but the pleasing things is it's things that can be eradicated'

Er, what have we spent the Pre-Season doing?

bluebry wrote:
If he is one of the best defenders in the league why do you think none of the other 23 managers have taken a punt on him?

Atkinson out long term.

And normal service is resumed. Bump.

I find it strange that whilst we are all - quite rightly - unhappy about the defensive line-up, no-one talks about the goalkeeper? Can Mark Gillespie do no wrong? IMHO we need a proper keeper. Worst defensive record in the League for two seasons running and no-one blames the keeper - unbelievable.

In terms of ability, Troy IS one of the best in the league i would say, his injury problems are what stops him from playing at a higher level.

bluebry wrote:
Totally agree with this. Everyone keeps saying we can't possibly play Troy, as 'he's only fit for half the games'.

So what? It would be better to have a tighter defence for even half the games, than to ship four goals in every single game...

The argument I suppose is that they want to build partnerships and Troy is not going to play every game - not sure how much longer this argument can be sustained mind you....

Reeves9 wrote:
Tom Miller takes the prize with 'we go again Saturday!' at 22:43.

I swear somebody told us that 'we go again Saturday' after about 35 games last season.

Dancingbear wrote:

Reeves9 wrote:
Jabo beat him by 5mins!

Jabo Ibehre ‏@Ibehre 15m15 minutes ago
Safe journey back to the travelling supporters ❤️ thank you for the support today