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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 08:56 #1

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An amazing achievement, 63 years and 7 months. But is there any place for a monarchy in this society, or is it as outdated as the house of lords?

Bear in mind we're paying her more than any footballer gets.

Decent council house too.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 09:23 #2

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63 years and 7 months of turning up to places and making a speech once a year is hardly an achievement in my eyes. Easier for people to live longer these days with improved health care etc
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 09:26 #3

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I'll see it as an achievement if I live to 63 mate.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 09:59 #4

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Moorlad wrote:
I'll see it as an achievement if I live to 63 mate.

Or if I get to 30!
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 13:33 #5

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Jenkins has managed over 50 years as a director of Carlisle United.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 13:38 #6

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Republic of Great Britain
Let us vote a head of state in (although this may lead to some oddball choices)

Saying that we would probably end up with Simon Cowell as President so I would probably emigrate

Edited to add Buckingham palace would make a great wetherspoons
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 13:54 #7

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Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians, [censored] hell cut to the chase let's just have jimmy savile as head of state

if they replaced it with a cat fair enough.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 14:30 #8

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I suppose I have to be fair to the present queen and say that she has managed to do the job with a bit of dignity and has never visibly taken any real political stance, so I have no issues with that part of it all.

The problem I have is that she's (and her family) given all of this wealth and privilege just because she was born into a particular family. She's never had to prove herself, although as I said she's done better than most other royals, and she's got everything she could ever have wanted purely at the taxpayers expense.

I'm of the view that in this day and age it can't go on, it is wrong, it is unfair and it exacerbates the class divide which still exists in this country.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 15:25 #9

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Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians, [censored] hell cut to the chase let's just have jimmy savile as head of state

if they replaced it with a cat fair enough.

The country is already ran by politicians, if you hadn't already noticed. And Jimmy Saville is dead. Where have you been?
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 15:37 #10

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If there's some sort of royal disaster we might end up with prince Harry, he'd be very nearly as bad as Saville, except with a nazi uniform.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 15:54 #11

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spaffhead wrote:
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Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians, [censored] hell cut to the chase let's just have jimmy savile as head of state

if they replaced it with a cat fair enough.

The country is already ran by politicians, if you hadn't already noticed. And Jimmy Saville is dead. Where have you been?

Yes, and they're all [censored], so why would we want more of them?

Savile could be dug up and reanimated using robotic technology. Imagine the loving crowds in the commonwealth cheering the decayed necrophile sitting atop a popemobile style conveyance as a stephen hawking voicebox bleats "now then, now then" and his robotically animated hand drops off and is carried off by a dog. A wonderful image and an ambassador for britain, you'd agree. Better than Boris Johnson anyways.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 15:58 #12

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orfc wrote:
spaffhead wrote:
orfc wrote:
Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians, [censored] hell cut to the chase let's just have jimmy savile as head of state

if they replaced it with a cat fair enough.

The country is already ran by politicians, if you hadn't already noticed. And Jimmy Saville is dead. Where have you been?

Yes, and they're all [censored], so why would we want more of them?

Savile could be dug up and reanimated using robotic technology. Imagine the loving crowds in the commonwealth cheering the decayed necrophile sitting atop a popemobile style conveyance as a stephen hawking voicebox bleats "now then, now then" and his robotically animated hand drops off and is carried off by a dog. A wonderful image and an ambassador for britain, you'd agree. Better than Boris Johnson anyways.

Quite.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 16:08 #13

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Moorlad wrote:
I suppose I have to be fair to the present queen and say that she has managed to do the job with a bit of dignity and has never visibly taken any real political stance, so I have no issues with that part of it all.

The problem I have is that she's (and her family) given all of this wealth and privilege just because she was born into a particular family. She's never had to prove herself, although as I said she's done better than most other royals, and she's got everything she could ever have wanted purely at the taxpayers expense.

I'm of the view that in this day and age it can't go on, it is wrong, it is unfair and it exacerbates the class divide which still exists in this country.

Getting rid of the Queen will hardly make a dent in any class war, the Eton set is who you need to be going after, what percentage of politicians have come out of that breeding ground ?

Our country has a monarch and if they were fully in charge it could hardly be any worse than a tory government.
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 16:49 #14

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As long as these benefit cheats are allowed to travel the globe at our expense,this country will never achieve its true potential and is destined to become a social and intellectual desert,as the great man said all those years ago "The King is not England and England is not The King"
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 19:09 #15

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'Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians'

I, and the vast majority of republicans do, though. It's not like we haven't seen it elsewhere!

Well I didn't vote for Queen Elizabeth II ( although at least i think she does a reasonable job in the circumstances - unlike some of her hangers on )

I didn't vote Conservative but at least they were democratically elected ( for 5 years ) and at least I had a chance to vote.
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1954Blue wrote:
'Don't understand the monarchy abolitionists, it's like they don't understand the monarch would only get replaced with politicians'

I, and the vast majority of republicans do, though. It's not like we haven't seen it elsewhere!

Well I didn't vote for Queen Elizabeth II ( although at least i think she does a reasonable job in the circumstances - unlike some of her hangers on )

I didn't vote Conservative but at least they were democratically elected ( for 5 years ) and at least I had a chance to vote.

As a certain Carlisle director would say. If you want to live in a republic F*** off and go and live in one!!! GSTQ :)
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 19:41 #17

Our Queen is one of the most respected people to walk this planet and has worked tirelessly to achieve this well deserved status. She is a long way from being the wealthiest person in Britain and does not even come close. The contribution to the UK economy our Monarchy makes is immeasurable, we should all be proud !!
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Works?

And if the contribution to the economy is through tourism, it doesn't wash with me. If the only reason, as some royalists would have us believe, we get any tourism is because of the royals, how come millions of tourists still go to France?
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Our Queen is one of the most respected people to walk this planet and has worked tirelessly to achieve this well deserved status. She is a long way from being the wealthiest person in Britain and does not even come close. The contribution to the UK economy our Monarchy makes is immeasurable, we should all be proud !!

Bloody hell i fully agree with you on something. Doubt all these foreign tourists who come to London because of the Queen would do so if Boris Johnson or Ken Livingstone had been in charge.
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Works?

And if the contribution to the economy is through tourism, it doesn't wash with me. If the only reason, as some royalists would have us believe, we get any tourism is because of the royals, how come millions of tourists still go to France?

Any tourism?
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Long to reign over us 09 Sep 2025 20:06 #21

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Aye, foreign tourism I mean, that's what some of the rampant royalists would have us believe.
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Aye, foreign tourism I mean, that's what some of the rampant royalists would have us believe.

Im a rampant Royalist and i dont think that. I certainly think its a contributrary factor though.
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Some, not all I said.

I reckon if there were no royals we wouldn't lose much foreign tourism at all. I'd very much like to see my theory tested.
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Who was the best though? Victoria or Elizabeth II? Or is it unfair to compare Queens of different eras?
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Who was the best though? Victoria or Elizabeth II? Or is it unfair to compare Queens of different eras?

Should ask Wayne Rooney which one hed rather shag?
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Long to reign over us Yesterday 22:29 #26

I'm proud to live in a constitutional monarchy. Compare ER2 to other world leaders, how does she compare? It's a great institution (not without its difficulties I'll grant you) but worth our support and worth keeping. GSTQ
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America doesn't have a royal family. Do they get many tourists?

I read a survey a couple of years ago that said only 1 out of the top 20 tourist attractions in the country were anything to do with the royals. Get shot of them ASAP, the leeches.

Buckingham Palace should be converted into a homeless shelter. Or a brewery. Or a gig venue. Or new home for AFC Wimbledon.
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