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Training with us this week apparently, quite the goal scoring record in non-league.

Was on trial at Newcastle last month but they didn't offer him a contract.

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/ex-newcastle-united-trialist-handed-second-chance-professional-contract-3056978
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Interesting. I like the fact we are looking at these types of players from lower down. No harm in having a look at him for a week or two.
  1. 03-12-2020 20:55
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Was on BBC Football Gossip that one, the link provided mentioned they didn’t take him on as doubted he’d get to their level. Nothing stopping him being L1/2 though...
  1. 03-12-2020 21:08
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I do actually remember him being at Dundee as a youth player surprised Newcastle had a look mind.
  1. 03-12-2020 21:51
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Was talking about this lad at work today, god knows why Newcastle thought a player from the Northern League could do anything for them.
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  1. 04-12-2020 11:47
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This is great news imo..
Either way if he is or isn't good enough or if we sign him or not we actually seem for once to have our finger on the pulse how many times have folk said why aren't we looking at so and so...
Things seem to be running a lot better these days
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Worth a look for definite. 21 goals in 14 games is impressive at any level.
When a striker is hitting the target that often they can usually carry it on as confidence is high.
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Was talking about this lad at work today, god knows why Newcastle thought a player from the Northern League could do anything for them.


He can't have done any worse than the Strikers they've bummed Millions on down the years.
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Can we really justify bringing more players in on the one hand and staff taking 20% paycuts in the other?

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/18917848.directors-staff-carlisle-united-taken-wage-cut/
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Can we really justify bringing more players in on the one hand and staff taking 20% paycuts in the other?

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/18917848.directors-staff-carlisle-united-taken-wage-cut/



No!

Just listened to this exact argument on talk sport before. Mentioned that issue and also clubs signing yet more players and then going on radio saying the bail out isn’t enough and the club may go bust ??? Sums it up though
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If you read the article it does explain why we're continuing to invest in the playing side to a greater degree than the admin side.

I'd agree with Clibbens in this respect.
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No harm in having a look at someone who may be able to make the club a few quid as long as they aren’t reckless. With all due respect we aren’t gonna sell a ticket office type person to Everton for a million. By the same token you could say we must release Bennett when his short term deal expires but I bet most people hope he stays.
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No harm in having a look at someone who may be able to make the club a few quid as long as they aren’t reckless. With all due respect we aren’t gonna sell a ticket office type person to Everton for a million. By the same token you could say we must release Bennett when his short term deal expires but I bet most people hope he stays.


Sorry but I see precious little respect for the staff who have taken the pay cut there. Surely if a club can't afford to pay wages, then they can't afford to pay wages full stop.

I really want Bennett to be here longer and I would like other prospects to come in but I don't like the idea of gambling with other people's money. That feels wrong.

As someone who has lost at least 20% of income this year, I know just how frightening, and soul-destroying that is, watching dreams being flushed down the pan, so I wouldn't belittle "Ticket office type people". I am more than happy to thank them and hope, with the EFL money coming through, they get the 20% back very soon.
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Maybe there should be a go fund me for Nigel and Suzanne

Don’t know how they’re gonna cope on 65k instead of 80k
  1. 05-12-2020 10:54
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Signing a lad from the Northern League, if he’s good enough, will have very little impact on finances. He’s probably only on petrol money at the moment if that so we’re not going to break the bank. I feel sorry for those at the lower end of the pay-scale at the club but those higher up are very well off.
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I didn't realise you were a communist UB. What's the cutoff point, 15k, 20, 30k. After which point do we blow a raspberry and think it funny or doesn't matter?

Whatever folks' annual income is (and I really don't want to know), I can't think of many people who would have 20% of their annual income, just sitting around doing nothing. More income usually means a bigger mortgage and more commitments. 20% is hard to make up ask anyone who has been furloughed,

The top and bottom of it is I don't feel comfortable that any club should be spending and making cutbacks at the same time. It just doesn't make financial sense to me, it's robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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Most people on furlough have had a 20% reduction in wages but it doesn't stop those businesses looking to the future.

You've got to speculate to accumulate. Not investing in the playing side could ultimately result in less jobs. it's a balancing act I suppose.

I've had about a 50% reduction in income but what can you do.
  1. 05-12-2020 11:48
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Once Newsquest came into the news and star, they decimated the staff, last photographer went last week, yet were still advertising/employing sales staff.

It didn’t sit right with me, now they are letting the sales staff go through as there’s nothing to sell, it doesn’t work.

You need to look after your current staff before employing others.
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We aren’t newsquest though we’re a football club and investing in young footballers can make the club money and keep people in jobs. I know it’s not nice people having to take pay cuts but first and foremost we need players. It’s not as if we’ve paid a load of staff off and sacked our mascot whilst signing players on £200k a week like some clubs have done this year. It is ok to have different views though but personally I think it’s worth taking a look at lads like this. You never know maybe there’s a ring fenced playing budget and there’s a bit of room left in it.
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You have to speculate to accumulate and if its in the budget it may pay off by making a profit and help secure jobs and the club
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I think taking a hit is absolutely the right thing to do-well done NC and Suzanne
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No mention of Big Daves remuneration reduction. :D
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3 years ago David Moyes took his bottom of the league Sunderland squad for a 4 day team bonding trip to New York. A week later there were numerous redundancies at the club amongst the non-playing staff. That was totally wrong and inappropriate. Taking a lad on trial from the Northern League whilst a few club staff have been forced to take a pay cut isn’t.
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At the end of the day it's a football club. As such I would expect the team and the wider squad of players to be the number one priority in terms of both time and money.
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If they had furloughed office staff and wanted to take on more it would be wrong.

If they had tried to furlough squad members then looked to sign more players it would be wrong.

The point being...
You can`t compare office and backroom staff with the playing squad.
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Isn't he on trial? So he gets expenses. £100 hardly going to break the bank
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It’s like a Clyde shipyard in here Marko!
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I wonder how this thread would look if the Club announced that they were having to let Rhys Bennett go as we can't afford his wages but took on more Ticket Office staff to cope with the changing allowances for fans attendances.
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I feel Bumble's comments have been misinterpreted here.
I am confused by what some people's moral compass is
Do we just want the game to be survival of the fittest and dog eat dog? If yes, fair enough, but then where do all the bail outs fit into that?
Of course clubs should be rewarded for spending money shrewdly and investing in playing staff and have to cut their cloth with non-playing staff, but this is not a normal year.
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I feel Bumble's comments have been misinterpreted here.
I am confused by what some people's moral compass is
Do we just want the game to be survival of the fittest and dog eat dog? If yes, fair enough, but then where do all the bail outs fit into that?
Of course clubs should be rewarded for spending money shrewdly and investing in playing staff and have to cut their cloth with non-playing staff, but this is not a normal year.


Agree!

We’ve had Grimsby’s Phil Day on talk sport most days complaining about no money and the bailout not being enough yet on another show says the club looking at signing such n such. Doesn’t sit right with me.

I’m taking Carlisle United as a business rather than football club. There’s no issue with taking players on trial, it’s a good thing, but signing players when ticket, shop staff take 20% cut doesn’t sit right with me.

It’s the way of the world though.
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Given your way of thinking though, and with the debt in lower league football in mind, no club should ever sign players again until they get their debts cleared. Football clubs still need to function and signing players is critical to it functioning properly. If you don’t sign players you struggle to compete, you go down the leagues, your problems multiply and before you know it you haven’t got a club and these staff you talk of haven’t got a job!
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I feel Bumble's comments have been misinterpreted here.
I am confused by what some people's moral compass is
Do we just want the game to be survival of the fittest and dog eat dog? If yes, fair enough, but then where do all the bail outs fit into that?
Of course clubs should be rewarded for spending money shrewdly and investing in playing staff and have to cut their cloth with non-playing staff, but this is not a normal year.


Agree!

We’ve had Grimsby’s Phil Day on talk sport most days complaining about no money and the bailout not being enough yet on another show says the club looking at signing such n such. Doesn’t sit right with me.

I’m taking Carlisle United as a business rather than football club. There’s no issue with taking players on trial, it’s a good thing, but signing players when ticket, shop staff take 20% cut doesn’t sit right with me.

It’s the way of the world though.


Do you think we should try to keep Bennett then Mullen or get rid and use the money on staff wages?
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I feel Bumble's comments have been misinterpreted here.
I am confused by what some people's moral compass is
Do we just want the game to be survival of the fittest and dog eat dog? If yes, fair enough, but then where do all the bail outs fit into that?
Of course clubs should be rewarded for spending money shrewdly and investing in playing staff and have to cut their cloth with non-playing staff, but this is not a normal year.


Agree!

We’ve had Grimsby’s Phil Day on talk sport most days complaining about no money and the bailout not being enough yet on another show says the club looking at signing such n such. Doesn’t sit right with me.

I’m taking Carlisle United as a business rather than football club. There’s no issue with taking players on trial, it’s a good thing, but signing players when ticket, shop staff take 20% cut doesn’t sit right with me.

It’s the way of the world though.


Do you think we should try to keep Bennett then Mullen or get rid and use the money on staff wages?


It's a very difficult one. I really want Bennett to sign for longer, I think he's a cracking player, and I would also like other players to come if they are of the right calibre. That's what a football club's about, always looking to improve. I am just hoping that the loan from the EFL will help sort things out.
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I know this sounds harsh but I couldn’t give two tosses about admin staff taking a pay cut. However I give two tosses about 3 points on a Saturday. If admin cuts help the first team prosper so be it. It’s a tough world out there and sometimes you have to take it on the chin.
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Maybe the contract we plan to offer him is also c. 20% less than what he would’ve got pre Covid
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To be fair I think the club have handled the covid crisis pretty well, including keeping the supporters informed throughout.
This won't have been an easy decision but it is a (football) business decision, and it isn't as if we are splashing out 100k on a centre forward.
Hopefully the bail out will help and if circumstances allow maybe we will see more supporters in the ground later in the season.
Wouldn't it be nice to think though, that when things start to get back to normal and the back room staff come off furlough the likes of Jenkins and Co. might dip into their back pockets and see them right.
I would have suggested PD did the deed, however I can't see that happening though somehow.
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I'm worried by the fact he's only 5'8".

We always seem to like signing stumpy little strikers.
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Any news on this lad?
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From Beech’s interview it sounds like this could be going somewhere.

We’ve got a bounce game on Wednesday that it looks like he’ll be playing in.
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Scored two for Reserves today, one a ‘thunderbolt’...
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Sign him up, before Boxing Day.
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Rather give this lad a half Season to see if he’s up to it than keep likes of Obiero and Malley on...
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Rather give this lad a half Season to see if he’s up to it than keep likes of Obiero and Malley on...


Think theyd be looking to send these 2 back regardless of whether we sign Scott or not to be honest.

Dickensen is close to a return so won’t need Malley and Obiero was only brought in because of Ethan Walkers injury.
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Lummy was talking on radio post match about Hebburn wanting a decent fee. So yeah Beech will have to be really really sure he’s going to be up to it if the club are going to have to shell out a transfer fee.
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Hope we don't mess him around to much there are other clubs interested, would be a shame to miss out on someone who obviously is showing potential.
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