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The odds on us getting relegated will have shortened considerably after that appointment. We must now be odds on!
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Can only hope he proves us wrong but that's hardly inspiring.
Appears to be like Pressley, another manager with a modest CV lucky to get the job so won't rock the boat with the BOD and DH.
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One of the least inspiring/exciting appointments ever... no doubt the cheapest option (bar skelton).
Having said that, as of today he is the manger,head coach,whatever of Carlisle United football club and has my support and backing 100%
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Odd!

No disrespect to Chris, but I'm sure of the 100 candidates they were "exciting" names there.

Deserves a chance but Wow!
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*Head Coach

Massive risk. Thought the only way we could hire a 1st timer is if it was someone like Bridges who could get fans in and get a bit of cashflow. Need to be wary of this head coach structure they've started.
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Underwhelming. Certainly not one of the names people were mentioning. I have a feeling the horsemen have outdone themselves this time.
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Need to be wary of this head coach structure they've started.


Do we? Already said he’ll select targets, will obviously pick the team etc.

No different to any previous, just a new name IMO...
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Just got a text. Had to check this wasn’t a wind up.
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I had some hope in EWM but I’ve lost all respect for them now. Going down going down going down. Non league tour next season
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Need to be wary of this head coach structure they've started.


Do we? Already said he’ll select targets, will obviously pick the team etc.

No different to any previous, just a new name IMO...


No different role, new name that is all as you say, Dan.
Nothing will change as the BoD have no money to back the new man.
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Who?
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My first thought is who?

Touch wood this will be a good appointment. Time for all to turn over a new leaf
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable
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He must be a heck of an interviewee.

Just because someone is a household name or former player doesn't mean they're the right person for the job, but this seems a monumental risk to take.

Going so left-field with this, there is going to be almost no grace period for him with the fans to get things right. As soon as he starts making team selections/tactical decisions that people don't agree with they'll start getting on his back.

The board surely aren't stupid enough to not realise that. Not a huge amount to gain here but an awful lot to lose. Is this appointment going to put some off this protest against Grimsby, regardless of results in the run up to it, in the same way that Michael Bridges or Zigor Aranalde would? No chance.

Good luck to him, but this is a massive sign of the direction of the club. And I don't like it one bit.
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Need to be wary of this head coach structure they've started.


Do we? Already said he’ll select targets, will obviously pick the team etc.

No different to any previous, just a new name IMO...


No different role, new name that is all as you say, Dan.
Nothing will change as the BoD have no money to back the new man.


It's OK, apparently he single handidly made Rochdale £25 million in transfer fees according to the article on the official site and then replaced the players that had been sold under the budget, even though he wasn't actually the manager.....
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable


different Chris Beech according to Jon Colman
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A Cheap option that has no real management experience with an emphasis on recruiting, development and selling young players on a tiny budget is the way I read it.
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable


different Chris Beech according to Jon Coleman


There were two Chris Beech’s playing at the same time.

This is our new Head Coach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech?wprov=sfti1

This is the ex-Player: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech_(footballer,_born_1975)?wprov=sfti1

An interesting post football development for the ex-Player: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-49073528#click=https://t.co/JCLuxRPx78
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I hope he does a good job, but he’s under pressure straight away simply because no one has even heard of him. Say he starts off with a couple of defeats, fans will be on him straight away.
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Im expecting a comfortable win for F Green in the FA Cup but Morecambe away is crucial! Lose that and we are in real trouble!
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Surprise suprise another magnificent decision from the three amigos.
It beggars belief they can be so inept.
Probably deliberate two fingers to the fans.
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Has anyone made sure that he’s the Chris Beech the board think he is?
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Simpson came from Rochdale and hadn't done much there.
Mervyn Day had never managed until Carlisle.
I'd never heard of Mick Wadsworth.
They all did not too bad really. I hope Beech is a great success and wish him all the luck in the world. Taking a chance on someone who has been coaching in the lower leagues for the last decade or more might not be the worst idea in the world.
Win the next 2 and we might be alright...
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To be fair though, he's more qualified to work in management in L2 than Michael Bridges.
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I know his brother. Silloth Beech!!!
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They could have appointed someone with more of a reputation to try and get a bit of a buzz and get fans back, and I suspected for a while that was exactly what they were gonna do. If you're gonna run a football club you sometimes have to make unpopular decisions though; I know Notts County fans had the opposite criticism of their former owner, that he always wanted to make crowdpleasing appointments such as Harry Kewell that backfired badly.

Hopefully they've done the right thing and chosen the manager on merit. Even though they've made very poor decisions for some years now, would be wrong to immediately assume Beech is another of those. If we put in some improved performances and start picking up points then most fans will quickly change their tune about this being a poor appointment; just in the same way that, had we appointed someone like Bridges that got people excited that buzz would quickly fade if results didn't improve.

Beech will probably get less leeway than a more well-known manager might have gotten, I just hope that if things do start to improve that the fans start to get behind him as I know there are always some United fans who, once they decide they don't like a manager then that's that. Some people couldn't stand Keith Curle and said they wouldn't return until he left, even when we were qualifying for the playoffs.
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Considering we’ve a pie maker, tyre maker, glazier and petrol station attendant on the selection panel I can’t say this is a great surprise, good luck Chris.
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Good luck Chris beech. Rochdale are a team who have punched above their weight, let's hope you continue that trend. COYB
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Simpson came from Rochdale and hadn't done much there.
Mervyn Day had never managed until Carlisle.
I'd never heard of Mick Wadsworth.
They all did not too bad really. I hope Beech is a great success and wish him all the luck in the world. Taking a chance on someone who has been coaching in the lower leagues for the last decade or more might not be the worst idea in the world.
Win the next 2 and we might be alright...



Simpson was a quality player, Day had an excellent career, both good pro's. Wadsworth was an England coach for Bobby Robson at Italia90 - thats the difference to a mediocre player and sacked asst manager at Rochdale!
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Jenkins added that Beech wanted to work closely with the youth set-up at United.

He highlighted his "track record" for bringing through young players who were later sold on for significant fees, and replacing them "under budget".
Carlisle's statement listed a number of players Beech brought through at Spotland, saying Dale Stephens, David Worrall, Will Buckley, Scott Hogan, Jamie Allen and Andy Cannon have since commanded transfer fees worth more than £25m.



MMMMMMM i wonder if the ££££££££££££££ signs are ringing in AJ's eyes at the thought
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Suggests a much bigger role for DH I'd say.
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable


Different Chris beech there’s two and it’s not the one who played for us
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They could have appointed someone with more of a reputation to try and get a bit of a buzz and get fans back, and I suspected for a while that was exactly what they were gonna do. If you're gonna run a football club you sometimes have to make unpopular decisions though; I know Notts County fans had the opposite criticism of their former owner, that he always wanted to make crowdpleasing appointments such as Harry Kewell that backfired badly.

Hopefully they've done the right thing and chosen the manager on merit. Even though they've made very poor decisions for some years now, would be wrong to immediately assume Beech is another of those. If we put in some improved performances and start picking up points then most fans will quickly change their tune about this being a poor appointment; just in the same way that, had we appointed someone like Bridges that got people excited that buzz would quickly fade if results didn't improve.

Beech will probably get less leeway than a more well-known manager might have gotten, I just hope that if things do start to improve that the fans start to get behind him as I know there are always some United fans who, once they decide they don't like a manager then that's that. Some people couldn't stand Keith Curle and said they wouldn't return until he left, even when we were qualifying for the playoffs.


If we had strong leadership and a clear vision of how the club was going to achieve it's goals I could agree with your trail of thought here. Making a decision because it is the right move and he's the right man for the job, despite the usual clamour for a name we've heard of.

That is not what has happened here.
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable


different Chris Beech according to Jon Coleman


There were two Chris Beech’s playing at the same time.

This is our new Head Coach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech?wprov=sfti1

This is the ex-Player: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech_(footballer,_born_1975)?wprov=sfti1

An interesting post football development for the ex-Player: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-49073528#click=https://t.co/JCLuxRPx78



I will refuse to admit I am wrong silentone-style by asking a question instead - so is our 'new' chris beech the one who started at blackpool not man city? Soccerbase has done the same as me and mangled their histories together anyways, they have him starting at blackpool and finishing here...
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Good luck to him, he could well end up being just the right man for the job in the current circumstances.

We can hardly feign surprise though at the news that they have made a cheap and largely uninspiring appointment.

They couldn't create a buzz in a bees nest.
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Simpson came from Rochdale and hadn't done much there.
Mervyn Day had never managed until Carlisle.
I'd never heard of Mick Wadsworth.
They all did not too bad really. I hope Beech is a great success and wish him all the luck in the world. Taking a chance on someone who has been coaching in the lower leagues for the last decade or more might not be the worst idea in the world.
Win the next 2 and we might be alright...



Simpson was a quality player, Day had an excellent career, both good pro's. Wadsworth was an England coach for Bobby Robson at Italia90 - thats the difference to a mediocre player and sacked asst manager at Rochdale!


Being good at football and being a success as a manager aren't the same thing. Booby Charlton and Bobby Moore were crap at being managers. Whether or not Simpson was a "quality player" is not really relevant to anything.
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It isn’t that I’m underwhelmed as such, it’s just that I’m struggling to work up any whelm at all.
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https://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=550

he played a couple of games for us in the conference season and was pretty unmemorable


different Chris Beech according to Jon Coleman


There were two Chris Beech’s playing at the same time.

This is our new Head Coach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech?wprov=sfti1

This is the ex-Player: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beech_(footballer,_born_1975)?wprov=sfti1

An interesting post football development for the ex-Player: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-49073528#click=https://t.co/JCLuxRPx78



I will refuse to admit I am wrong silentone-style by asking a question instead - so is our 'new' chris beech the one who started at blackpool not man city? Soccerbase has done the same as me and mangled their histories together anyways, they have him starting at blackpool and finishing here...


Yes, Soccerbase appear to have them jumbled together...
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I think he is a good person to have at the club, but we already have a person here that's here, for what he has come for in Kinder.

As a manager "head coach" he is an unknown with only 6 matches as caretaker. We could have chosen an up and coming manager or one with experience - not sure where this one lies.

We know why he's been brought in for. The pickers heard the £££££££ signs and imagine he will do it here. Any manager "head coach" that applies in future will be recruited to make money - which isn't the remit of a football league manager really - its to get results.

Wish him well - personally, think it's the wrong choice for "head coach" - time will tell.
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Has he any previous with Holdsworth out of curiosity
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With Birch and Beech at the Elm we should be Oak a.
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Southernblue, on twitter a Dale supporter claims Beech sold young players for 5 milllion, that would suit our board.

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A statement from an Elder boarder
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Southernblue, on twitter a Dale supporter claims Beech sold young players for 5 milllion, that would suit our board.

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Interesting if you have young players in your squad worth GBP5M but most of our players are loanees the remainder on one year contracts...
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With Birch and Beech at the Elm we should be Oak a.


Let's hope we're not sycamore defeats in a couple of months time.
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And lets hope the head coach is lying beside the palm trees on the beech this summer after successfully steering us up the league

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Southernblue, on twitter a Dale supporter claims Beech sold young players for 5 milllion, that would suit our board.

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I was only going by what the club have put on the press release announcing his appointment:

“He has a proven track record in the identification and recruitment of players [note - Dale Stephens, David Worrall, Will Buckley, Scott Hogan, Jamie Allen and Andy Cannon £25 million] and he was known at Rochdale for strengthening the squad under budget to replace those players sold at a premium.”


£5 million does though sound far more reasonable than the above mentioned £25 million
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Suggests a much bigger role for DH I'd say.

Maybe a new Sharpie
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With Birch and Beech at the Elm we should be Oak a.


He best not turn out to be a complete plank
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