Sunday, 04 July 2021
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Only 3 weeks away, apparently, but you wouldn’t know as they don’t seem to make much mention in the lead-up.

Almost as though they don’t want folk to be interested…
3 months ago
They never do announce it publically until very near or after the deadline to stand as a candidate.
You can see it very small on the website and briefing emails.

No idea why the members meetings got cancelled! We are always told there’ll be regular but never are
3 months ago
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others maybe ?
3 months ago
They might be pleased but I’m not joining up this year or paying my £10

I’ll miss the agm but so be it.

Extremely disappointed with them this year. They don’t represent anything for me.

Gaffe after gaffe
Crap communications
Regurgitated briefings that are copy n paste job
Don’t answer, some, more pressing cusg questions
Clique and secretive re cusg chair
Had 1 online members meeting, as always say they’d be regular yet cancel all the others.
They might be pleased but I’m not joining up this year or paying my £10

I’ll miss the agm but so be it.

Extremely disappointed with them this year. They don’t represent anything for me.

Gaffe after gaffe
Crap communications
Regurgitated briefings that are copy n paste job
Don’t answer, some, more pressing cusg questions
Clique and secretive re cusg chair
Had 1 online members meeting, as always say they’d be regular yet cancel all the others.


... and a shambolic Carlisle ReUnited fundraiser to help the club through the Covid crisis, only to be spent on a bloody bar refurb.
3 months ago
Pay your tenner and at the AGM suggest handing the shares to cusg as they are more representative of the fans and the directors can be chosen from that group of which they are members . Sit back and watch the reactions. Could be the best tenner you spend this year lol
3 months ago
They might be pleased but I’m not joining up this year or paying my £10

I’ll miss the agm but so be it.

Extremely disappointed with them this year. They don’t represent anything for me.

Gaffe after gaffe
Crap communications
Regurgitated briefings that are copy n paste job
Don’t answer, some, more pressing cusg questions
Clique and secretive re cusg chair
Had 1 online members meeting, as always say they’d be regular yet cancel all the others.


... and a shambolic Carlisle ReUnited fundraiser to help the club through the Covid crisis, only to be spent on a bloody bar refurb.


The money has gone down by £1000, wonder why?

Spending it on a bar refurb is a disgrace.
3 months ago
According to their latest Briefing Email, they may need to delay the AGM!

Our final accounts were still being worked on. Alastair and Norman were liaising with treasurer Peter Harrington to ensure the deadline for the AGM would be met. A potential short delay to the AGM date was discussed should we need it.
3 months ago
Pay your tenner and at the AGM suggest handing the shares to cusg as they are more representative of the fans and the directors can be chosen from that group of which they are members . Sit back and watch the reactions. Could be the best tenner you spend this year lol

You raise a good point there Bob - why do The Trust and even this board have such small percentage representation of the support of the blues?
If we get 4k at games, what a couple of hundred in the trust, probably 50 - 100 members on here but only really 20 to 30 regular posters?
Are other clubs like this, or are we specifically lethargic about the Team (or have the 3 amigos succeeded in pissing everyone off so much that no one cares)?
3 months ago
Now confirmed for Sunday 25th July at 11am via Zoom.

Two folk up for voting, Frank Beattie to continue on the Board, and Mark Middling to be added after his co-opting.

Candidate statements on the link.

Wonder if voting will reach 10% of Membership this year?
3 months ago
Can you pay CUOSC membership fees via bitcoin?
3 months ago
I’m definitely not renewing but I think it ends 31st July so wonder if I can go to that.
3 months ago
Trust replied very quickly to say yes I can attend the AGM as you’re a member until the end of July.
3 months ago
Trust replied very quickly to say yes I can attend the AGM as you’re a member until the end of July.


Didn't go to the spam filter?
3 months ago
CCU is that the guy who has just started following the club ? And already wants to have a say in things ? Wonder if he will be a positive move or it's a move with a hidden agenda kind of thing .
3 months ago
Restrictions end on Monday so it makes no sense to still hold this on zoom.
3 months ago
CCU is that the guy who has just started following the club ? And already wants to have a say in things ? Wonder if he will be a positive move or it's a move with a hidden agenda kind of thing .


It is. Stoke fan originally from his little bit.

From the CUOSC Dec Board Meeting Notes:

A new board member, Mark Middling was co-opted until the date of the 2021 AGM. Mark is based in Hexham and has a lot of experience in financials as well as knowledge of football governance from his university research and some legal issues.
3 months ago
Call me suspicious but in life occasionally these things are for the benefit of the organisation but mostly for the individuals need to get there own stuff across.
He may have specific skills though for some secret cunning plan that the trust are hatching lol.
3 months ago
Saves folk travelling after work Mullen , not everyone lives in Carlisle remember. And it saves the planet too
2 months ago
If you are a member of this pathetic association then it is your duty to vote NO to Frank Beattie and Mark Middling at the upcoming meeting!!!

Time for the sleeping members to use their vote!!!

REFORM THE TRUST!!!!!!
2 months ago
Better still...Disband the (mis)Trust!
2 months ago
I did suggest a vote of no confidence in the trust a few years ago but not enough wanted to, so this is the trust board you have.

I’m not saying the vote is rigged at all but you have the same number 60 ish that vote for the status quo yet these people never attend meetings in person/online so where are they getting their info from?

There’s some new people on the trust but it seems they are getting used to do the trusts dirty work of the more “established” members.

Also interesting reading JKs posts lately giving us insight into the trusts thinking although I think that’s changing.
2 months ago
Just to clarify my post on certain trust members, new, doing dirty work.

In fairness to the two trust members the meeting on Friday was excellent and fine but afterwards it went weird.

I was messaged to send info which I sent a very very minimal thing. I was then messsged by one of them only to send more as a trust member wouldn’t comment. Wasn’t persistent but alarm bells started ringing!

This to me is doing dirty work. It’s maybe unfair on the two members as it doesn’t concern them but that’s what it feels like to me. Why did the people involved who said it speak to the people directly I don’t know.

I did receive a message regarding my post above from a trust board member (don’t monitor messsgeboard) as he was unhappy. I can understand why but I still feel they were used to try to get as much info as possible from me before answering the question.

It’s why I really wanted the answer to be given before any evidence to see what the reply would be.
2 months ago
To recap I’m not anti trust or pro anyone just after a bit of truth. The whole thing has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

A person I know well attended BA shop and had a good long discussion about the club. In that discussion BA mentions, unsure of context, of unscrupulous people that may shock some people in the club. This person then asks me if I know who they are.

For clarification this person likes BA and Jm and has no issues. I regularly get told off from him for criticising them which is why I’m certain what was said was true.

However I don’t mention anything as it’s hear say. But I get included in some communications , not by BA, that also says the same thing - so I ask the question as it’s now valid.

I’ve fell for things before so I sent a snippet of good evidence to the mods here to clarify the question.

I then get an invite to a meeting with Jack and Kyle. To be fair it was a good fair meeting and explained the situation. It was a good meeting.

I then get messaged in a group with Kyle and Jack to provide evidence. I provide a little snippet.

Then alarm bells ring when I get a message of Jack directly saying Billy requires more info. This then leads me to post about the “dirty work” and getting the two lads to do it.

I then get a message from Jack to say he’s disappointed and shocked what I put and why I didn’t go to him. Simply I lost trust I felt I was being humoured to get the evidence. Sorry it’s just how I felt.

Really disappointed - all the trust had to do was reply to the question by saying yes or no. All this sneaky ness etc and other stuff just adds fuel to fire what the trust are about.

Sad really. I’d urge everyone who is a member to go to the AGM and make their feelings known either for/against


To recap I’m not anti trust or pro anyone just after a bit of truth. The whole thing has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

A person I know well attended BA shop and had a good long discussion about the club. In that discussion BA mentions, unsure of context, of unscrupulous people that may shock some people in the club. This person then asks me if I know who they are.

For clarification this person likes BA and Jm and has no issues. I regularly get told off from him for criticising them which is why I’m certain what was said was true.

However I don’t mention anything as it’s hear say. But I get included in some communications , not by BA, that also says the same thing - so I ask the question as it’s now valid.

I’ve fell for things before so I sent a snippet of good evidence to the mods here to clarify the question.

I then get an invite to a meeting with Jack and Kyle. To be fair it was a good fair meeting and explained the situation. It was a good meeting.

I then get messaged in a group with Kyle and Jack to provide evidence. I provide a little snippet.

Then alarm bells ring when I get a message of Jack directly saying Billy requires more info. This then leads me to post about the “dirty work” and getting the two lads to do it.

I then get a message from Jack to say he’s disappointed and shocked what I put and why I didn’t go to him. Simply I lost trust I felt I was being humoured to get the evidence. Sorry it’s just how I felt.

Really disappointed - all the trust had to do was reply to the question by saying yes or no. All this sneaky ness etc and other stuff just adds fuel to fire what the trust are about.

Sad really. I’d urge everyone who is a member to go to the AGM and make their feelings known either for/against


Right Richard, I’ve replied to you personally on this this yesterday. But now replying to you publicly because you've named me on this forum so everyone can see.

For the record, I’m speaking here in a completely personal capacity.

After a meeting at 2130 one night last week, where we seemed to have a good, open dialogue and where we even offered to answer any other questions you had etc, I’m annoyed you’ve said this.

Now, I can’t be bothered with a Back and Forth with you I'm sure we've both got better things to do with our time, but I will put one thing straight. I’m not doing anyone’s dirty work. I have my own business in the North East which I am steering through Covid, I am currently buying a house and I have a pregnant girlfriend. I’ve got a bit of time left to volunteer my time to CUOSC to try and help Carlisle United (the club I love and want to see nothing but a better future for.) I certainly don't have time to do anyone’s dirty work (which seems to be 2+2=5 type grasp to me).

For the record, as stated in my messages to you, the reason I messaged privately without Kyle the other night was because he was going on holiday, he's allowed one, he's a volunteer, he even asked me to himself. I noticed you've chosen to ignore that fairly important part.

I know we don't know each other, but rather than accusing me of dirty work on a public forum, why on earth would you not contact me personally first?

And what if I had never seen your post? I don't come on here a lot, but ultimately I visit because I’m a Carlisle United fan first and foremost (no, the trust is not ‘monitoring’ this board, we’re volunteers not Russian spies) . Many people on here would just presume I am some sort of sneaky lapdog, who knows, maybe their mind is already made up after this and the damage is done. In which case, thanks a lot mate.

I'd like to know, how you would feel if the tables were turned and someone you really didn't know at all accused you of doing dirty work the internet?

Needless to say, yes I am P!$$ed off about this and really I think its all so avoidable and pointless. In my opinion, painting someone in a derogatory way on a public forum, with no prior conversation, or a chance to even rectify any issue is extremely poor form, especially now that you've done it by name (I'm no legal expert but I'm sure it will be a bit dodgy too). I offered for you to get in touch if you needed anything else, but instead you've just hit your keyboard instead.

And by the way, Its no secret I was critical of the trust back in the day, but after doing something about it (AKA joining) in hindsight sometimes I was unfair. But ultimately, there’s some brilliant volunteers involved in ALL aspects of our fanbase, to the guys who give up their time to moderate this board, to those who go to CUSG meetings, London Branch, podcasters, WRE flags, Away Travel etc. These are people actively doing something to try and achieve progress and interaction. Vague allegations and personal digs on a public forum do the opposite and also cause a lot unneeded stress and hurt.

Now I'm scratching my head wondering how volunteering to try and do some good has led to me defending myself to someone I don't know at 7am on a Thursday.

Jack
2 months ago
Hi bejustandfearprokas

the trust is not ‘monitoring’ this board, we’re volunteers not Russian spies

The Trust sent a letter to Barry, revoking his membership because of comments he posted on here. How do you know what he posted on here if you aren't monitoring the forum?

Many people on here would just presume I am some sort of sneaky lapdog, who knows, maybe their mind is already made up after this and the damage is done. In which case, thanks a lot mate.

The Trust have, rather ironically, often behaved in such a way that doesn't inspire trust in them.

Needless to say, yes I am P!$$ed off about this and really I think its all so avoidable and pointless. In my opinion, painting someone in a derogatory way on a public forum, with no prior conversation, or a chance to even rectify any issue is extremely poor form, especially now that you've done it by name (I'm no legal expert but I'm sure it will be a bit dodgy too).

One of my pet peeves is people trying to intimidate others with legal threats. Do you actually think Mullen has broken a law? If so, which law? Can you point me to a specific post or a thread he's made where he has committed an offence?



Edited because quotes aren't formatting properly. Thanks EasyDiscuss!
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