To recap I’m not anti trust or pro anyone just after a bit of truth. The whole thing has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
A person I know well attended BA shop and had a good long discussion about the club. In that discussion BA mentions, unsure of context, of unscrupulous people that may shock some people in the club. This person then asks me if I know who they are.
For clarification this person likes BA and Jm and has no issues. I regularly get told off from him for criticising them which is why I’m certain what was said was true.
However I don’t mention anything as it’s hear say. But I get included in some communications , not by BA, that also says the same thing - so I ask the question as it’s now valid.
I’ve fell for things before so I sent a snippet of good evidence to the mods here to clarify the question.
I then get an invite to a meeting with Jack and Kyle. To be fair it was a good fair meeting and explained the situation. It was a good meeting.
I then get messaged in a group with Kyle and Jack to provide evidence. I provide a little snippet.
Then alarm bells ring when I get a message of Jack directly saying Billy requires more info. This then leads me to post about the “dirty work” and getting the two lads to do it.
I then get a message from Jack to say he’s disappointed and shocked what I put and why I didn’t go to him. Simply I lost trust I felt I was being humoured to get the evidence. Sorry it’s just how I felt.
Really disappointed - all the trust had to do was reply to the question by saying yes or no. All this sneaky ness etc and other stuff just adds fuel to fire what the trust are about.
Sad really. I’d urge everyone who is a member to go to the AGM and make their feelings known either for/against
Right Richard, I’ve replied to you personally on this this yesterday. But now replying to you publicly because you've named me on this forum so everyone can see.
For the record, I’m speaking here in a completely personal capacity.
After a meeting at 2130 one night last week, where we seemed to have a good, open dialogue and where we even offered to answer any other questions you had etc, I’m annoyed you’ve said this.
Now, I can’t be bothered with a Back and Forth with you I'm sure we've both got better things to do with our time, but I will put one thing straight. I’m not doing anyone’s dirty work. I have my own business in the North East which I am steering through Covid, I am currently buying a house and I have a pregnant girlfriend. I’ve got a bit of time left to volunteer my time to CUOSC to try and help Carlisle United (the club I love and want to see nothing but a better future for.) I certainly don't have time to do anyone’s dirty work (which seems to be 2+2=5 type grasp to me).
For the record, as stated in my messages to you, the reason I messaged privately without Kyle the other night was because he was going on holiday, he's allowed one, he's a volunteer, he even asked me to himself. I noticed you've chosen to ignore that fairly important part.
I know we don't know each other, but rather than accusing me of dirty work on a public forum, why on earth would you not contact me personally first?
And what if I had never seen your post? I don't come on here a lot, but ultimately I visit because I’m a Carlisle United fan first and foremost (no, the trust is not ‘monitoring’ this board, we’re volunteers not Russian spies) . Many people on here would just presume I am some sort of sneaky lapdog, who knows, maybe their mind is already made up after this and the damage is done. In which case, thanks a lot mate.
I'd like to know, how you would feel if the tables were turned and someone you really didn't know at all accused you of doing dirty work the internet?
Needless to say, yes I am P!$$ed off about this and really I think its all so avoidable and pointless. In my opinion, painting someone in a derogatory way on a public forum, with no prior conversation, or a chance to even rectify any issue is extremely poor form, especially now that you've done it by name (I'm no legal expert but I'm sure it will be a bit dodgy too). I offered for you to get in touch if you needed anything else, but instead you've just hit your keyboard instead.
And by the way, Its no secret I was critical of the trust back in the day, but after doing something about it (AKA joining) in hindsight sometimes I was unfair. But ultimately, there’s some brilliant volunteers involved in ALL aspects of our fanbase, to the guys who give up their time to moderate this board, to those who go to CUSG meetings, London Branch, podcasters, WRE flags, Away Travel etc. These are people actively doing something to try and achieve progress and interaction. Vague allegations and personal digs on a public forum do the opposite and also cause a lot unneeded stress and hurt.
Now I'm scratching my head wondering how volunteering to try and do some good has led to me defending myself to someone I don't know at 7am on a Thursday.
Jack