The Jamie Oliver Restraunt Chain Collapses....

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21 May 2019 17:15 #1 by munchymagic
What a surprise - the daft [censored] is hell bent on taking sugar and salt out of everything at a rate of being obsessive about it, however he is a big fat get so my guess is that he does not practice what he preaches.

No wonder they went under when their product was a tasteless piece of crap that you had to pay fifteen quid for, was like something that I could knock up at home myself for pence.

He has proven himself to be a fad rather than a chef and definitely not someone who should be campaigning for decent food as he has proven he has not got the skillset to turn out decent food - I don't see Gordon Ramsey and real chefs struggling at all.

His show started off as amusing then you realised that he insisted on cooking for about ten people and everyone knows that this is easy, the trick is doing individual dishes - I also noticed that he was spending more on one portion per person than it would cost from a take-away that would taste better.


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21 May 2019 18:59 #2 by Bumble
I went to his Italian restaurant in Edinburgh a couple of times and realy enjoyed it, and didn't think it was bad value for money.

Its lovely to find a good independent restaurant but when you are somewhere you don't know very well it's good to find a food chain where you know the food will be of a similar standard where ever you are.
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21 May 2019 19:19 #3 by Mullen103
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I’ve been to the one in Edinburgh also twice. 1st time was great really good food/service/price no complaints 2nd time was a disaster complete polar opposites.

On a separate note Pizza express is bloody expensive - how’s it so busy.

At least we’re not Stockport

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21 May 2019 19:42 #4 by cocaineblues
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I go to pizza express specifically because I know you won't be there.

I imagine the reason will be the same for everyone else.

At least we're not Mullen.
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21 May 2019 19:58 #5 by Mullen103
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cocaineblues wrote: I go to pizza express specifically because I know you won't be there.

I imagine the reason will be the same for everyone else.


Cheers for the info - good news, hate eating with anyone else, I’ll keep out!

At least we’re not Stockport
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21 May 2019 20:04 #6 by Tom
Genuinely interested - why does everyone hate Jamie Oliver?

Don’t need Munchy’s input obviously.

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21 May 2019 20:09 #7 by munchymagic
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I actually would like Jamie Oliver to be the first 'celebrity chef' on the moon.

Whether the little [censored] e r likes it or not....
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21 May 2019 20:25 #8 by nobbyblue
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Tom wrote: Genuinely interested - why does everyone hate Jamie Oliver?

Don’t need Munchy’s input obviously.


Mainly because he's a [censored] I think.

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21 May 2019 20:29 #9 by Yorkie Blue
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Just another "right on" celeb keen to pontificate to us plebs what we should and shouldn`t do whilst living in their own bubble, good enough for the fat bar steward.


Fish and chips and mushy peas are all my brain and body needs
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21 May 2019 20:54 #10 by ParcelPete
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Tom wrote: Genuinely interested - why does everyone hate Jamie Oliver?

Don’t need Munchy’s input obviously.


5 Kids.
Poppy Honey Rosie.
Daisy Boo Pamela.
Petal Blossom Rainbow.
Buddy Bear Maurice.
River Rocket Blue Dallas.
That's my reason.
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21 May 2019 21:14 #11 by munchymagic
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How many Chefs do you actually hear about apart from Jamie Oliver who would actually take the flavour out of things, absurd really as the whole idea of eating out in a restaurant is first and foremost the quality of the food.

The top chefs go for flavour and don't give a flying [censored] what crap will clog your arteries up - if they could find a safe and delicious way to serve up battery acid in a dish then they most certainly would.

His pious ways on getting into Parliament was a scandal to talk about 'sugar tax' - adding tax to kids fizzy drinks is a disgrace, imagine when he gets the ache about alcohol and he is back in there making us all pay more because he has enough money to drink a sea of wine.

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21 May 2019 21:26 #12 by Mush

ParcelPete wrote:

Tom wrote: Genuinely interested - why does everyone hate Jamie Oliver?

Don’t need Munchy’s input obviously.


5 Kids.
Poppy Honey Rosie.
Daisy Boo Pamela.
Petal Blossom Rainbow.
Buddy Bear Maurice.
River Rocket Blue Dallas.
That's my reason.


Christ you know a lot about his kids!
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21 May 2019 21:48 #13 by ParcelPete
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Wiki.
Which will probably be the name of his next one.
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21 May 2019 22:29 #14 by melbourneblues
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Are you ok Pete valley tornado?

Mullen is a virgin.
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21 May 2019 22:32 #15 by Dentonholmersimpson
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I liked his recipe for pancakes.


Maybe cos he's a complete tosser.

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21 May 2019 22:45 #16 by BlueAl
Preferred Fanny Cradock.

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21 May 2019 22:51 #17 by ParcelPete
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melbourneblues wrote: Are you ok Pete valley tornado?


That's the last secret i'm telling you.
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21 May 2019 22:51 #18 by munchymagic
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Yeah I love a bit of Fanny.

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21 May 2019 22:59 #19 by Markovitch
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When I went the waitress said our special is the chicken strips for £5. I was like, hell I'll pay to see that

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21 May 2019 23:37 #20 by cousinscotty
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Markovitch wrote: When I went the waitress said our special is the chicken strips for £5. I was like, hell I'll pay to see that


Feather by feather? You could be there longer than eggspected...

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22 May 2019 07:09 #21 by Jumpforfun
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Surely his efforts to bet better food into school dinners can only be a good thing?? And sugar tax is intended to reduce the amount of sugary drinks people consume, again that must be seen as a good thing??

We are in the grip of an obesity epidemic. Our children must be amongst the fattest and least fit/healthy in the world.

Money from the sugar tax is being put into primary schools to promote sport and activity (primary sports premium funding).

The intentions are honourable.

Shame he's an obnoxious twonk.
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22 May 2019 09:44 #22 by Zebby
Well I don't mind him, he's maybe a bit over enthusiastic which I understand could grate on some but two that really get on my nerves are Nigel Slater and that stupid bint Nigella Lawson what a pair of gobshites they are..

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22 May 2019 10:14 #23 by heilkmoon
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I never understand the appeal of Saturday Kitchen, half of it is sub-daytime tv cook & chat hosted by [censored], the other half is re-heated cook & chat clips from 1980s, usually hosted by [censored].

Feels like something that should be on a Wednesday afternoon on an obscure Freeview channel, but it's so popular there's now an identical show on ITV at the same time hosted by ultimate [censored] James Martin.

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22 May 2019 10:36 #24 by Waltero
Apparently Oliver has signed PGs with HSBC for £30 million plus. That'll wipe the smug smile off his face. Shame about the staff though

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22 May 2019 12:08 #25 by Laffy
You may dislike him but he has created a lot of value for the UK and employed a lot of people-all from a standing start.

He has taken a bath on this but it’s no reason to crow about it-the politics of greed and envy out in force again
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22 May 2019 12:27 #26 by Waltero
And those staff are now basically unemployed as I can't see anyone buying the business

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22 May 2019 12:48 #27 by Laffy
I agree-it’s gone.Shame on anyone thinking this is amusing given the number of people who are now out of work.Its bloody sad that many find this situation so amusing
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22 May 2019 13:05 #28 by ExiledJock
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It's a narrative. He progressed from being a chef to a public figure who involved himself in campaigns. People - for whatever reason - are resentful when they see people oh, trying to improve school dinners and so he became something of a hate figure. So they see this as commupance. Very British.
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22 May 2019 13:18 #29 by carwash
Mid-market Italian food isn't seen as interesting any more. At the bottom end you have the likes of Domino's and chains like Zizzi and Prezzo are struggling. In London, Turkish restaurants with high quality Mediterranean food are doing very well but it's difficult to replicate.

There is an up and coming pizza chain which started in London, Franco Manca where I'm told they're looking to open a restaurant next year in Newcastle City Centre. It's hugely popular down south and the Geordies will be queuing round the block to get in.

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22 May 2019 13:24 #30 by Mullen103
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Laffy wrote: I agree-it’s gone.Shame on anyone thinking this is amusing given the number of people who are now out of work.Its bloody sad that many find this situation so amusing


Yep - it's the normal employees that suffer.

They apparently didn't know about it until they turned up to work their shift. No matter who you are that's very bad crack as surely you'd know and let the employees know so they can least plan - that's the part I blame Mr Oliver for! Some businesses go bust but its how you plan/deal with it that makes you stand out.

My 1st job after leaving uni on one Friday went out for company drinks etc told the usuals see you Monday then on the Monday the premises were locked and the company bankrupt. total shock and the directors buggered off to another country! Another company I worked for told the employees of the company/ the employees went above and beyond and saved it and it got bought out and saved - just shows you

At least we’re not Stockport

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22 May 2019 13:34 #31 by Laffy
This particular business is screwed Richard-nobody will buy it as it’s a brand and the brand has said ‘enough’ after losing £50m plus.It could put a hole in the global Oliver brand-just like Luke Johnson who made a career out of telling people what to do-and got caught on his own doorstep.

It’s a good time for the likes of Franco Manca to expand with landlords desperate for tenants so hopefully a lot of new jobs.

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22 May 2019 13:54 #32 by Harrabyblue
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He should have put his money into food bank chains,under this pathetically called government he would have made a fortune

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22 May 2019 14:21 - 22 May 2019 14:22 #33 by CCU

carwash wrote: There is an up and coming pizza chain which started in London, Franco Manca where I'm told they're looking to open a restaurant next year in Newcastle City Centre. It's hugely popular down south and the Geordies will be queuing round the block to get in.


Well there’s a prime spot available by Monument as of yesterday, ready made for restaurants!

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22 May 2019 14:33 #34 by Waltero
What annoyed me about Oliver was his "holier than thou attitude" he did some good things I agree but went one step too far IMO. He was to obsessed with improving his own image and bank balance and iIt's came back and bit him on his arse.
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22 May 2019 14:40 #35 by sirjimmyglass
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CCU wrote:

carwash wrote: There is an up and coming pizza chain which started in London, Franco Manca where I'm told they're looking to open a restaurant next year in Newcastle City Centre. It's hugely popular down south and the Geordies will be queuing round the block to get in.


Well there’s a prime spot available by Monument as of yesterday, ready made for restaurants!


The Newcastle one went a while back, it's something else now.
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22 May 2019 14:41 #36 by Laffy
He can be irritating but you can just turn the tele off.

He is reputably worth £250m so I think he has earned the right to do a bit of preaching as he clearly understands food.

Cue the marxists comments -tax dodging capitalist, let’s nationalise this national treasure.

I would however intervene on British Steel-it is a vital infrastructure component for the UK and the government should take it off Greybull who will lose everything of course.
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22 May 2019 14:43 #37 by carwash

CCU wrote:

carwash wrote: There is an up and coming pizza chain which started in London, Franco Manca where I'm told they're looking to open a restaurant next year in Newcastle City Centre. It's hugely popular down south and the Geordies will be queuing round the block to get in.


Well there’s a prime spot available by Monument as of yesterday, ready made for restaurants!


The Jamies at Newcastle Monument closed last October and Banyan are there now. Franco Manca are probably very interested in the Jamies site in York as they'll be opening in Leeds later this year and they like the university cities.
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22 May 2019 14:56 #38 by munchymagic
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Waltero wrote: What annoyed me about Oliver was his "holier than thou attitude" he did some good things I agree but went one step too far IMO. He was to obsessed with improving his own image and bank balance and iIt's came back and bit him on his arse.


There is nothing worse than being preached to by a fat celebrity demanding to others that they get skinny.

As for his sugar tax, extra pence on fizzy pop is great for the government and they were rubbing their hands at what they could steal from Coca Cola, Pepsi and Tango but by doing so he angered a lot of people.

I never did get this obesity thing as it is nothing to do with the kids but the parents, I understand that you cannot totally control your kids behaviour a lot of the time but you can help control their eating habits - none of my kids are fat, their diet is fairly good but not great all the time but it just tells me that these parents who religiously visit McDonalds every day will just get fatter and so will their kids, even if you stick ten pence on a coke in McDonalds it will make no difference to these people just like sticking extra tax on alcohol will make no difference to a drunk.

I noticed that Burger King seem to have got round this sugar tax anyhow and some chain pubs as you pay once and can have unlimited refills - ten pence extra is sod all when you can drink a sea of sugary pop till your heart is content.

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22 May 2019 14:57 #39 by CCU

carwash wrote:

CCU wrote:

carwash wrote: There is an up and coming pizza chain which started in London, Franco Manca where I'm told they're looking to open a restaurant next year in Newcastle City Centre. It's hugely popular down south and the Geordies will be queuing round the block to get in.


Well there’s a prime spot available by Monument as of yesterday, ready made for restaurants!


The Jamies at Newcastle Monument closed last October and Banyan are there now. Franco Manca are probably very interested in the Jamies site in York as they'll be opening in Leeds later this year and they like the university cities.


Ah, haven’t been to Newcastle since about Sept. Was in the Jamie’s that time, just for a drink, and it was nowhere near as busy as the time before I’d been in...

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22 May 2019 15:01 #40 by Laffy
I think a lot of people use MacDonalds because it is cheap-and too convenient.

I got on a flight to Mallorca from Edinburgh a couple of weeks ago and I’m surprised it got off the ground -and I had to sit next to one particularly well timbered lady who polished off a whole tube of Pringles and then spent the rest of the flight poking away at the crumbs in the tube as if it were her last meal.

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22 May 2019 15:07 #41 by Dancingbear
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Only spot I used to frequent back in the day was the toon takeaway so maybe Jamie Oliver does have a point.

There's only one way of life and that's your own!!!

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22 May 2019 15:40 - 22 May 2019 15:40 #42 by sirjimmyglass
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Waltero wrote: What annoyed me about Oliver was his "holier than thou attitude" he did some good things I agree but went one step too far IMO. He was to obsessed with improving his own image and bank balance and iIt's came back and bit him on his arse.


There is nothing worse than being preached to by a fat celebrity demanding to others that they get skinny.

As for his sugar tax, extra pence on fizzy pop is great for the government and they were rubbing their hands at what they could steal from Coca Cola, Pepsi and Tango but by doing so he angered a lot of people.

I never did get this obesity thing as it is nothing to do with the kids but the parents, I understand that you cannot totally control your kids behaviour a lot of the time but you can help control their eating habits - none of my kids are fat, their diet is fairly good but not great all the time but it just tells me that these parents who religiously visit McDonalds every day will just get fatter and so will their kids, even if you stick ten pence on a coke in McDonalds it will make no difference to these people just like sticking extra tax on alcohol will make no difference to a drunk.

I noticed that Burger King seem to have got round this sugar tax anyhow and some chain pubs as you pay once and can have unlimited refills - ten pence extra is sod all when you can drink a sea of sugary pop till your heart is content.


If only someone with a bit of clout would start a campaign to try and educate the parents into thinking more about what they give their kids. If we had someone who was willing to do that, we might start to win this battle.

You are literally - and I mean literally - making Jamie Oliver's point here.

Remember when he started the school dinner campaign and parents were passing fish and chips through the school gates to their kids? There's a really good chance they had the "there is nothing worse than being preached to by a fat celebrity demanding to others that they get skinny" attitude.

www.theguardian.com/education/2006/sep/20/schoolmeals.schools
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22 May 2019 16:05 #43 by munchymagic
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

Waltero wrote: What annoyed me about Oliver was his "holier than thou attitude" he did some good things I agree but went one step too far IMO. He was to obsessed with improving his own image and bank balance and iIt's came back and bit him on his arse.


There is nothing worse than being preached to by a fat celebrity demanding to others that they get skinny.

As for his sugar tax, extra pence on fizzy pop is great for the government and they were rubbing their hands at what they could steal from Coca Cola, Pepsi and Tango but by doing so he angered a lot of people.

I never did get this obesity thing as it is nothing to do with the kids but the parents, I understand that you cannot totally control your kids behaviour a lot of the time but you can help control their eating habits - none of my kids are fat, their diet is fairly good but not great all the time but it just tells me that these parents who religiously visit McDonalds every day will just get fatter and so will their kids, even if you stick ten pence on a coke in McDonalds it will make no difference to these people just like sticking extra tax on alcohol will make no difference to a drunk.

I noticed that Burger King seem to have got round this sugar tax anyhow and some chain pubs as you pay once and can have unlimited refills - ten pence extra is sod all when you can drink a sea of sugary pop till your heart is content.


If only someone with a bit of clout would start a campaign to try and educate the parents into thinking more about what they give their kids. If we had someone who was willing to do that, we might start to win this battle.

You are literally - and I mean literally - making Jamie Oliver's point here.

Remember when he started the school dinner campaign and parents were passing fish and chips through the school gates to their kids? There's a really good chance they had the "there is nothing worse than being preached to by a fat celebrity demanding to others that they get skinny" attitude.

www.theguardian.com/education/2006/sep/20/schoolmeals.schools


I am not really making his point at all.

Todays society is so stubborn that we have this 'I will do what I want attitude' we are all the same to an extent in that manner - I hadn't heard of the fish and chip story but what would you expect from people who had nipped out from the pub at mid-day pissed up and fed their kids though the fence and then probably back to the pub.

You seriously are not going to change these ex Jeremy Kyle show style guests habits, you can preach to these people all day long but then they get hungry.

Funnily enough - I hadn't even heard of a Turkey Twizzler or even what it even was until Jamie Oliver tried to get them banned.

I feel sorry for the staff though as just like his advice on eating he handled it shoddily.

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22 May 2019 16:28 #44 by sirjimmyglass
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You are though, you're saying it isn't the children who are to blame for what they eat. Get the adults to feed them better food and they'll not be so fat.

The difference is you're saying "what's the point, they'll never change" and Jamie Oliver tried to do something about it. You might think he failed but even if he did it's good of him to use his celebrity position to try.

His restaurants were crap, though.
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22 May 2019 17:10 - 22 May 2019 17:11 #45 by munchymagic
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sirjimmyglass wrote: You are though, you're saying it isn't the children who are to blame for what they eat. Get the adults to feed them better food and they'll not be so fat.

The difference is you're saying "what's the point, they'll never change" and Jamie Oliver tried to do something about it. You might think he failed but even if he did it's good of him to use his celebrity position to try.

His restaurants were crap, though.


This better food though unfortunately tastes crap to kids.

That's why, like I have said many times - I planted more fruit in the garden as I could cram in and throughout the summer my kids get all excited and take a bowl out and go foraging like a fancy pic-n-mix and they enjoy eating their findings, if you make it exciting and varied as possible then they just buy into the different things to taste.

Yeah, pretty simple and not very expensive to set up if you have a garden but the look on their faces shows more joy than a visit to the ice cream van and at the end of the day it is only organic fruit that they are eating - it shouldn't really need Jamie Oliver to inspire eating as he goes about it the wrong way even when he tries, maybe he would have had better success in his heyday when he was fresh but the country was already sick to [censored] of him and Joolz and his million friends over for lunch on adverts with the hatred song 'Dancing In The Moonlight' playing in the background.

(I say organic as I don't use pesticides and organic feed)
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22 May 2019 17:14 #46 by yoonited
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sirjimmyglass wrote:
His restaurants were crap, though.


Obviously his accountants and financial advisers were too.
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22 May 2019 17:31 #47 by Waltero
His brother in law didn't help either,dodgy insider dealer banned from the the city who Oliver made his CEO.

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22 May 2019 17:44 #48 by deeksme
It must be brilliant to be an expert on everything.

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22 May 2019 18:06 #49 by munchymagic
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I would settle for being an expert in one [censored] thing.

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22 May 2019 18:17 - 22 May 2019 18:25 #50 by nobbyblue
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Laffy wrote: He can be irritating but you can just turn the tele off.

He is reputably worth £250m so I think he has earned the right to do a bit of preaching as he clearly understands food.

Cue the marxists comments -tax dodging capitalist, let’s nationalise this national treasure.

I would however intervene on British Steel-it is a vital infrastructure component for the UK and the government should take it off Greybull who will lose everything of course.


[censored] British Steel. Why should I as a taxpayer prop up a failing company. The employees have had a good run on very good money compared to similar companies and would they be bailing me out if the roles were reversed. I think not.

The government has already loaned them £120m.
Last edit: 22 May 2019 18:25 by nobbyblue.

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