EFL supporter survey: Nearly two-thirds of fans want VAR & goalline technology

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11 Jul 2019 13:05 - 11 Jul 2019 13:09 #1 by nobbyblue
I found that very hard to believe.

I'm all for goal line technology but VAR would be a no.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48949073

We've managed for 150 plus years without it!
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11 Jul 2019 13:22 #2 by kickergold
In lower league games I just think it would kill the flow a bit. I'm for it in the Premier league and champions league because there's serious money on the line so mistakes can cost millions. At this level though, think there's other things that need fixed first.

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11 Jul 2019 13:41 #3 by HuntingHorn
Goal Line Tech? yes.
VAR? please god no.

All I've seen so far has been a shambolic and 'keystone cops' version of TV replay technology employed very successfully by several other sports. Football however takes that successful formula and makes a complete pigs ear of it.....

I'd rather they just dumped Neville, Carragher and the gang from the TV coverage and stopped turning every minute aspect of games into an outrage. Without them and their 58 slow mo camera angles there's just a taking point in the pub after the game...instead we have these clowns going ape that a ref has just cost Man Utd the league, or Cost Man City countless billions in prize money and future earnings (which is all it's about anyway)

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11 Jul 2019 13:43 - 11 Jul 2019 13:46 #4 by CCU


Not enough replies were received from CUFC fans to be included, and the Club will receive little data from as a result.

From the CUSG Minutes:
EFL survey – the Club had been advised by the EFL they had not enough respondents from amongst CUFC fanbase to get representative feedback.

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11 Jul 2019 14:12 #5 by biblioclasm
VAR cost England women big time in the World Cup. Giving someone offside because their toes were beyond an imaginary line is terrible. I always thought a player was offside when they were beyond the last defender, their body, not their toes or arm.

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11 Jul 2019 14:23 #6 by franksidebottom

biblioclasm wrote: VAR cost England women big time in the World Cup. Giving someone offside because their toes were beyond an imaginary line is terrible. I always thought a player was offside when they were beyond the last defender, their body, not their toes or arm.


Totally agree, some of the offside calls which have seen goals ruled out by VAR have been ridiculous. It should be used to identify blatant offsides which the linesman has missed and a goal has been scored, no imaginary lines just a quick look back with the naked eye.

I think VAR could be beneficial if used properly and sparingly in games. It needs to be faster and the video ref should only get one or two looks back at the incident, if it needs looked at several times, referred back to the ref at the pitchside and taking 2-3 minutes then it’s obviously not conclusive enough in the first place.

In my opinion there’s rarely a decision which needs VAR in a game anyway, it’s being used far too often so far.

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11 Jul 2019 15:53 #7 by Urban Designer
Did we even know from CUFC there was a survey?

Should be clear daylight to be offside - I'd rather have human error - you can't celebrate a goal and that release which is the best part of a match is gone.

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11 Jul 2019 16:10 #8 by pigeonpete
Whats the point in doing these surveys anyway, they just ignore us.
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11 Jul 2019 16:23 - 11 Jul 2019 16:23 #9 by CCU

Urban Designer wrote: Did we even know from CUFC there was a survey?


The Club advertised it, I’ll have a look and see if I can find out when it was...

Edit: Early Feb
www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2019/febru...porters-survey-2019/

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11 Jul 2019 17:18 #10 by Wukkie
I hate VAR already. Splitting hairs over every decision, players going down even more than they usually do at the first sight of an opponent or the slightest touch and I've seen a lot get to the wrong decision after looking at it on the video. It's also taken out what little common sense was left in the game.

The latest Copa America was embarrassing with no flow to the games and for me it's ruining football.
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11 Jul 2019 18:21 #11 by Happyblue
Offside has a always been any part of their body that could legally score a goal , as far as I can remember,

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12 Jul 2019 11:14 #12 by baggieblue
I was unaware of this survey and surprised by the results. Most fans I know are supportive of the use of VAR, it makes an instant judgement and does not hold-up the game. Conversely I don't know anybody in favour of VAR. It holds up the game, fans cannot really celebrate a goal until VAR has been consulted and I do not think it always produces the correct decision. I do understand Happy's argument concerning offsides but am unhappy with the accuracy of the technology, if the action is stopped a frame sooner or later a different conclusion may well be reached. Or if the player goes on to score but does not use the offending body part e.g the toes of her/his left foot is it fair to be deemed offside?

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12 Jul 2019 14:04 #13 by sirjimmyglass
I don't mind VAR for offside because you're either offside or you're not. Whether you like where they draw the line or not is pretty irrelevant - they draw it where any part of the body is where you can score a goal and that's fine by me. I also don't think the instances of VAR being used for offside have been the ones that have caused the ridiculous delays.

The penalty incidents are completely different because that is so down to interpretation and because of that you have to look at so many angles. If they're going to use it for free kicks, penalties, red cards etc I think they should do it like umpire's call in cricket; all you should be looking for is total agreement from 3/4 people in the VAR studio that the referee's decision should be overruled.

At our level though? No, it would be far too expensive to run.

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