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03 Aug 2019 11:59 #1 by CCU
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03 Aug 2019 12:34 #2 by kells
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He seems to fall in to the category of player where you especially hope he does well... seems to have something about him. Of course, I want all our squad to do well, but I’m sure you know what I mean!

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03 Aug 2019 12:50 #3 by crunchblue
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I’d be very disappointed if someone doesn’t come up with a version of the Mo Salah song for him.

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03 Aug 2019 12:51 #4 by nobbyblue
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Who is Mo Salah?
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03 Aug 2019 12:57 #5 by crunchblue
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nobbyblue wrote: Who is Mo Salah?


Google it you lazy [censored]

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03 Aug 2019 13:07 #6 by pacirv
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Good news he definitely has the potential to be a very good player. Saw Holdsworth shake his hand yesterday after training which made me think he’d been offered a deal. Also heard a few at the club couldn’t believe that he hadn’t been snapped up already. Good luck to the lad.
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03 Aug 2019 13:19 #7 by Markovitch
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What position does he play? Wide midfield? Or Central?

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03 Aug 2019 13:21 #8 by CCU
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Markovitch wrote: What position does he play? Wide midfield? Or Central?


Central...

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03 Aug 2019 13:54 - 03 Aug 2019 13:55 #9 by Markovitch
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Problem is we have bridge, mckirdy, and scougall who all play there, albeit as attacking mids. So is elvis likely to play Thomas on the left today and this lad on the right? I assume Jones and Carroll are shoo ins. Jones looked very uncomfortable out wide last year
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03 Aug 2019 13:57 #10 by crunchblue
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McKirdy is either a winger or striker. No way would I class him as a central midfielder based on the friendlies i’ve seen so far.
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06 Sep 2019 14:38 - 06 Sep 2019 14:39 #11 by Markovitch
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Really hope this lad starts tomorrow, I think his pace in midfield could make a real difference
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06 Sep 2019 16:15 #12 by Waltero
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I agree,made a difference at Scunthorpe. He should be starting

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09 Nov 2019 04:20 #13 by CCU
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The more I watch of this lad, the more I like. Looks so comfortable on the ball. We could just have unearthed a real one here...

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09 Nov 2019 06:56 #14 by bigboblee
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Just watched second half again. 77th minute Sagaf should have been played in, even points where he wanted the ball to go. Our fourth goal Sagaf gets ball, sees straight away what is needed, plays McKirdy. Sagaf looks good to me.
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09 Nov 2019 08:50 #15 by Mush
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CCU wrote: The more I watch of this lad, the more I like. Looks so comfortable on the ball. We could just have unearthed a real one here...


he should be in the team instead of Bridge who goes missing for half of the game.

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09 Nov 2019 10:52 #16 by Southernblue
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Should get the clauses for the extra year in his and Mckirdy’s contracts activated on Monday morning
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09 Nov 2019 12:54 #17 by pacirv
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Trying to keep him under wraps maybe in case he's on someone's shopping list in Jan.
Should be starting every game.

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22 Apr 2020 21:30 #18 by CalcioEngland
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Hi - I'm writing an article about Mo Sagaf for my website ( calcioengland.com/ ). The piece focuses on his career path; starting with his year spent in the academy at Ternana in Italy, and his subsequent rise through the English non-league pyramid.

I'd be interested to know what Carlisle fans thought of Mo, and his performances to date for Carlisle. From a scan of the statistics, it looks like he started well, but then fell out of the first team picture around the new year. Any insights into the reasons behind this would be most welcome.

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23 Apr 2020 12:21 #19 by Dancingbear
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Id think most on here thought he was playing well enough but for whatever reason he didnt really fit in with either how the new manager wants to play. Or he just doesnt fancy him at all.

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23 Apr 2020 12:34 #20 by pacirv
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Showed enough promise to be given a fair chance but for whatever reason Beech has sidelined him even though others in the club rated him highly.
Would like to think that Beech will at the very least give him a short term contract for next season then give him a chance to prove himself. The lockdown has done the lad out of getting a run in the team this season before any contracts are decided on.

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23 Apr 2020 12:36 #21 by pacirv
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Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.

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23 Apr 2020 12:53 #22 by nobbyblue
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I would but Beech won’t because he doesn’t seem to like him as a player.

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23 Apr 2020 13:01 #23 by NORTHERNSOUL
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pair wrote: Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.


At the meeting the other day there was a suggestion that clubs could be given a payment in return for offering 1-year contracts to any players whose contracts are up in the summer in order to avoid a mass of unemployed lower league players and it was suggested that the PFA could use their assets to help fund it. They are yet to comment We wait with baited breath.

There was also talk of establishing a divisional median wage the figure mentioned for league 2 was £1030 per week the figure wasn't vastly disputed but the number of players at the top end, in other words, the "stars" whos wage figures would be discounted from the calculations was ranging from as low as two and as high as 6 so I would say there's still a long way off a consensus on that.

The pair who are driving this are Radford and his wife from Mansfield and as Dan has said there were 34 out of the 47 clubs involved and looking at a throw away comment from someone who was involved it looks as if we weren't one of them as he said none of the clubs to whom the divisional reps are attatched were represented.

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23 Apr 2020 13:31 #24 by Dancingbear
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pacirv wrote: Showed enough promise to be given a fair chance but for whatever reason Beech has sidelined him even though others in the club rated him highly.
Would like to think that Beech will at the very least give him a short term contract for next season then give him a chance to prove himself. The lockdown has done the lad out of getting a run in the team this season before any contracts are decided on.


I doubt he’d have got a good run even if the season hadn’t been curtailed.

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23 Apr 2020 13:43 #25 by Markovitch
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I liked him. He is quite quick, so he can create a yard of space, and he can get forward from midfield positions.

My understanding was that he didn't try hard enough in training, that was why Beech didn't like him. I would play him before Bridge if it was up to me.

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23 Apr 2020 15:46 #26 by pacirv
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He worked hard on the pitch in matches covered a lot of ground and was always looking to be involved. You would think if Beech wasn't happy with his work rate in training he would talk to the kid and explain what he expected from his players on the training pitch, simply benching him and not giving him or any player a chance is not good.
Elvis did the same with Hayden and look how that turned out when he was given a decent break.

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23 Apr 2020 17:50 #27 by 09sider
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pacirv wrote: Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.


I'd offer him another 12 months, with his work rate I'd play him in front of the back 4, giving Jonah a bit more time and space.

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23 Apr 2020 21:26 #28 by Zebby
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Beech has on several occasions mentioned players standards with regard to training I can only assume along with not particularly setting world alight in the midweek bounce/friendlies that Sagaf could well be one of the players he was on about

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24 Apr 2020 12:00 #29 by aberdeenblue28
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pacirv wrote: Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.


I'd offer him another 12 months, with his work rate I'd play him in front of the back 4, giving Jonah a bit more time and space.

Not sure that in front of the back four would be his best position he’s not physically big enough to play there. He would suit behind the striker with his quick feet and and good range of passes. He’s looked a real talent but if he’s want a career in football he’s got to train well. Hopefully he gets a contract on the basis that Skelton will vouch for him like he did with Hayden.

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24 Apr 2020 12:35 #30 by CUFC52
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Imo Sagaf has a lot of potential, the trouble is which midfield role does he play ?

Needs coaching to adapt his play to cover the back 4,(I’m not sure we had any coaching under Pressley). Beech prefers Watt or Jones as the deep lying midfielder.

He’s certinally got the athleticism to play box to box, but again needs coaching in his off the ball play.

Could develop into a CAM but in the Carlisle team, we’ve got a lot of players who can do average jobs in their, so it’s difficult to develop him in that role.

Personally felt his best game came at wing back.

All in all he will probably drop to a conference team and climb back up the leagues with continuous football and coaching.

Realistically it was always going to be difficult for Beech to develop him given the position he came in and the fact we sold Jarrad essentially meaning Charters is involved every week. As for Pressley it seemed a free for all without structure in players games which arguably hampered the development of Sagaf.

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25 Apr 2020 07:05 #31 by CalcioEngland
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Many thanks for all of these responses - as ever, opinions seem a little divided, but you've given me plenty to work with here! I'm aiming to have the article ready by next weekend and will keep you posted.

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25 Apr 2020 09:08 #32 by Markovitch
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How did he get on at Ternana Berretti? Can't see that he played any games for them from TransferMarket. Send us a link when it's written, will be interesting to read.
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25 Apr 2020 09:59 #33 by ParcelPete
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aberdeenblue28 wrote:

09sider wrote:

pacirv wrote: Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.


I'd offer him another 12 months, with his work rate I'd play him in front of the back 4, giving Jonah a bit more time and space.

Not sure that in front of the back four would be his best position he’s not physically big enough to play there. He would suit behind the striker with his quick feet and and good range of passes. He’s looked a real talent but if he’s want a career in football he’s got to train well. Hopefully he gets a contract on the basis that Skelton will vouch for him like he did with Hayden.


That Kante bloke would be rubbish in front of a back four.
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25 Apr 2020 10:27 #34 by aberdeenblue28
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ParcelPete wrote:

aberdeenblue28 wrote:

09sider wrote:

pacirv wrote: Ps out of interest how many on here who have seen him play would give him a contract for next season.


I'd offer him another 12 months, with his work rate I'd play him in front of the back 4, giving Jonah a bit more time and space.

Not sure that in front of the back four would be his best position he’s not physically big enough to play there. He would suit behind the striker with his quick feet and and good range of passes. He’s looked a real talent but if he’s want a career in football he’s got to train well. Hopefully he gets a contract on the basis that Skelton will vouch for him like he did with Hayden.


That Kante bloke would be rubbish in front of a back four.

He’d be an attacking midfielder in league 2 but I get your point. Would much prefer if we brought in someone more combative to sit in front of the back four though. Sagaf is a playmaker first and foremost and never really saw him get a chance there. He scored some cracking free kicks for Braintree that I’ve seen puzzled me why he did have a go here

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02 May 2020 09:19 #35 by CalcioEngland
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Hi all - thanks again for your input on this.

The final article about Mo has been published and you can find it here: calcioengland.com/2020/05/02/from-umbria...-incredible-journey/

I hope this is of interest - and best of luck to CUFC for when the football returns!
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07 May 2020 16:34 #36 by pacirv
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Highlights show just how much potential he has, he could be a big asset to the club if given a chance. If beech can’t see that or be able to get the best out of him then it wouldn’t say much about his ability as a coach.

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07 May 2020 16:53 #37 by 09sider
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If we don't give him an extension, I'm sure he'll be snapped up. With his lack of game time I wouldn't be surprised if he left and his name was added to the list of the ones that got away.

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07 May 2020 17:25 #38 by thetashkentterror
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I think if we don't give him a ten-year contract on £200,000 a week, then he'll end up going to another club and being transferred in two years time for £50 million.

That's what happens 99.99% of the time to players who can't get into the first eleven, and more often than not lately even the matchday eighteen, at lower end of the table League Two clubs.
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15 May 2020 11:26 #39 by CCU
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He’s just posted his Highlights reel for the Season:


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15 May 2020 11:38 #40 by Burneside Blue
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Shouldn't take long to watch that...

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