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11 Aug 2019 11:03 #1 by Mullen103
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Why after over a week is it still showing Crawley as the next game.

It’s things like these, can’t be bothered attitude, that pisses people off and there’s no excuse for it.

At least we’re not Stockport

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11 Aug 2019 11:07 #2 by Arragorn
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Not unexpected of our tinpot club. No one can be arsed to do anything . According to the same board we only have 2 more home fixtures left!!

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11 Aug 2019 11:11 #3 by whytakemypostcode
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Exactly. Nobody at the club is arsed anymore. CUOSC have admitted that Jenkins has taken a back seat, and we are about 1653rd down the priority list of EWM. Best to keep your £20 in your pocket every fortnight.
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11 Aug 2019 11:23 #4 by Mullen103
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When I went past it last night, I just shook my head as it’s just ridiculous.

It’s the second home game of the season, they should still be enthusiasm there. To still leave it after a week is terrible.

There’s been complaints umpteen times about this and other posters and we are told it’ll be put right but never is. It is a lazy cant be arsed attitude and it’s not right and will filter all the way down.

We were told we would definetly have a scoreboard - hasn’t happened, it’s just bullshit.

There’s no other boards around town that shows upcoming game. To not update the only one is pitiful. Cusg guys, can you bring this up at the meeting on Monday please?

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11 Aug 2019 11:28 #5 by CCU
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I noticed it late yesterday myself and was going to mention it!

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11 Aug 2019 11:37 #6 by Waltero
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If they can't get the simple things right we're definitely f....d

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11 Aug 2019 11:54 #7 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote: I noticed it late yesterday myself and was going to mention it!


Cheers CCU - It’s a shame your times spent in the meeting covering old grounds and going round in circles with very little success.

It’s understood we are skint, so things costing money won’t be forthcoming, however it’s the things that don’t cost money time/effort that is pissing people off. There’s two posts on here suggesting the club has a “can’t be arsed attiute” no idea if that’s true but things like these don’t help the cause to suggest otherwise.

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11 Aug 2019 12:04 #8 by thetashkentterror
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I mentioned it last season and got told off by some fans on Twitter for saying it.

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11 Aug 2019 12:13 #9 by Waltero
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It's pretty obvious that they can't be arsed, if they had half the pride in the team that the fans have we might get somewhere. I doubt it tho

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11 Aug 2019 13:50 #10 by Carlisleprogrammes
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If you drive round Carlisle you'll still see Jess Glynne advertising for the Aug 4th concert that had to be postponed

I think people put these posters up then forget all about them

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11 Aug 2019 15:54 #11 by Waltero
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The club has only one board to look after, the flyers for concerts etc are run by the promoters. the ones I've seen today show the re-arranged date. As you said they're all around the city, the club's is on their doorstep

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11 Aug 2019 16:14 #12 by Dancingbear
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Just driven down Warwick Road and seen Clibbens and Holdsworth up a ladder trying to sort it ahead of the meeting. Heard Holdsworth saying i wish that Mullen would F@&k off and Nigel replying point taken David but we cant change the past.

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11 Aug 2019 17:21 #13 by Kessler
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Mullen103 wrote: It’s understood we are skint, so things costing money won’t be forthcoming, however it’s the things that don’t cost money time/effort that is pissing people off.


That's what bugs me. There are a lot of problems facing the club right now and I fully accept that we maybe can't fix all of them. The financial situation is bleak, that means we can't afford a lot of stuff, it's difficult to get players and signings, that's fair enough. But there is no excuse for the club failing to fix the smaller things. Get the posters for previous matches taken down, that won't cost anything, and it's an easy win, it just makes you look that little bit more professional.

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11 Aug 2019 17:27 #14 by Kessler
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Mullen103 wrote: It is a lazy cant be arsed attitude and it’s not right and will filter all the way down.


I think I've seen some of what you're referring to with that last comment Mullen. When they give us briefings before the match, there is very little emphasis on customer service, it's like they don't even care about it or don't think it's a relevant point to bring up. That attitude has probably filtered down from the top. And it would be so easy to fix that, and start giving being consistent about mentioning and reminding to give good customer service. It's an easy win, while the results on the pitch might be bad and there's a whole lot of other problems, at least if we can give people a good match day experience they are more likely to come back and that means more money for the club.

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11 Aug 2019 17:43 #15 by franksidebottom
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Totally agree about all the points being made, just smacks of an amateurish organisation. If we can’t get the little things right what chance do we have with the important issues?

A similar point was raised at the forum a year or two back, when there was complaints about the lack of bog roll in the toilets, the bird shit of seats, no boiling water in the food kiosks, all easy to fix at little or no cost to the club. Billy Atkinson batted the question away on behalf of the club by saying you can’t fix all these off field problems whilst at the same time demanding money be spent on the team, as if it’s one or the other. An absolute ludicrous comment.

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11 Aug 2019 18:22 - 11 Aug 2019 18:26 #16 by Kessler
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franksidebottom wrote: Totally agree about all the points being made, just smacks of an amateurish organisation. If we can’t get the little things right what chance do we have with the important issues?

A similar point was raised at the forum a year or two back, when there was complaints about the lack of bog roll in the toilets, the bird shit of seats, no boiling water in the food kiosks, all easy to fix at little or no cost to the club. Billy Atkinson batted the question away on behalf of the club by saying you can’t fix all these off field problems whilst at the same time demanding money be spent on the team, as if it’s one or the other. An absolute ludicrous comment.


While these are all little issues by themselves, I think they do add up over time and it becomes a serious problem. The lack of professionalism and the general vibe the BOD give out that they just don't give a shit/can't be arsed pushes fans away. It doesn't happen in huge numbers, but you lose a few fans here and there, slowly over time and it ends up being death by a thousand cuts. The attendances will gradually get lower and lower because people are just fed up of the BOD not listening to the fans, or promising to change things but then not delivering.

Accepting that a lot of the problems on the field/lack of money can't be easily fixed, most of the little things can. Pay more attention to detail and make sure any outdated posters are taken down. Make sure the bogs have toilet paper. Neither of those will cost anything and it's easy wins, it would make the club look a bit more professional and like they actually listen to criticism.
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11 Aug 2019 20:15 #17 by aliblue
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Emailed Holdsworth earlier about the fixtures board, believe me he is not to chuffed when he was informed.
It will be sorted first thing tomorrow and admitted things like this should not be happening still , and said this has to change!
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11 Aug 2019 20:31 - 11 Aug 2019 20:32 #18 by CCU
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Such simple things should be on a Monday morning checklist following a Saturday game...

Fixtures Board updated at 6pm on Sat? Yes/No

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11 Aug 2019 21:10 #19 by Zenon
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CCU wrote:
Fixtures Board updated at 6pm on Sat? Yes/No


Unlikely I know, but it would be much better to be updated during the match so that the next match is immediately visible to fans leaving the stadium.

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11 Aug 2019 22:44 #20 by Alan
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Its hardly the end of the world is it the other 3 advertised fixtures are still to be played talk about pant pissing about nothing :-D
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11 Aug 2019 22:48 #21 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote: Such simple things should be on a Monday morning checklist following a Saturday game...

Fixtures Board updated at 6pm on Sat? Yes/No


Agree!

I’ve brought up this checklist/walkaround the last two cusg meetings. Despite the 1st response from NC saying there wasn’t a specific checklist but his latest response saying there was it’s not working as someone hasn’t been doing their job. But what’s more concerning is that it’s been a week where it’s been like that, surely NC or other directors would of spotted it, it gives a poor impression and I’m disappointed no one picked it up.

I had a bad experience with the ticket office staff last week, not the staff but lack of training and the system , the advertising board not updated. I might come across as a wart/annoying but there are a lot of people that care about this club and when they see things not done / poorly done it leaves a bad taste.

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11 Aug 2019 22:58 #22 by munchymagic
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Alan wrote: Its hardly the end of the world is it the other 3 advertised fixtures are still to be played talk about pant pissing about nothing :-D


I know What you are saying but it is like the old Lonsdale cinema in Carlisle still being there in ruins advertising the latest movie 'Jaws' with an old weather beaten poster.

That is how Carlisle United feels at the moment - it needs to be fresh and not smell of old fart.

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11 Aug 2019 22:59 #23 by Mullen103
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Alan wrote: Its hardly the end of the world is it the other 3 advertised fixtures are still to be played talk about pant pissing about nothing :-D


It’s not the end of the world no - nothing is in football.

Maybe I’m on my own, not by going on this thread though, that it looks unprofessional and a can’t be arsed attitude. The club have had complaints from others about this, you would of thought it would be near the top of the list of this supposed checklist.

Ideally we’d have a digital one on there that could be updated by a press of a button and advertise other things. But that obviously costs money so is out the question.

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11 Aug 2019 23:05 - 11 Aug 2019 23:17 #24 by munchymagic
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This also tells me that Holdsworth waxing lyrical in his interviews of 'inserting fixture lists in the bogs' has taken his eye off the ball and his efforts were a one off.

Then again it must be time consuming work signing no players.

Poor show.
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12 Aug 2019 07:08 - 12 Aug 2019 07:08 #25 by nobbyblue
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That fixture board has nearly always been out of date as long as I can remember.
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12 Aug 2019 08:16 #26 by Kessler
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Mullen103 wrote: Maybe I’m on my own, not by going on this thread though, that it looks unprofessional and a can’t be arsed attitude. The club have had complaints from others about this, you would of thought it would be near the top of the list of this supposed checklist.


They need to see how their behaviour is coming across to fans. They say they are happy to listen to criticism, that they want to engage with fans, and that they want the best for the club. But when stuff like the out of date adverts is pointed out, despite all their promises to fix it they don't seem to follow through. At best this makes them look embarrassingly incompetent.

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12 Aug 2019 09:10 #27 by thesilentone
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If you want to be taken seriously in future, I would let this thread die quickly.

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12 Aug 2019 09:23 #28 by Kessler
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thesilentone wrote: If you want to be taken seriously in future, I would let this thread die quickly.


Have they fixed it?

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12 Aug 2019 09:57 #29 by Waltero
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Still trying to get hold of Bob, he can't be arsed either

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12 Aug 2019 10:53 #30 by Unrepentant blue
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Emergency over, it’s getting updated now by two highly skilled workers.

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12 Aug 2019 11:00 #31 by Waltero
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Is Steve Patt getting his hands dirty
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12 Aug 2019 11:45 #32 by CCU
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So it’s took 9 days, a Thread on here and an email to DH to get a simple fixtures Board updated?

Absolute peak CUFC that...

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12 Aug 2019 12:01 - 12 Aug 2019 12:05 #33 by Kessler
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CCU wrote: So it’s took 9 days, a Thread on here and an email to DH to get a simple fixtures Board updated?

Absolute peak CUFC that...


People have told me I shouldn't bother criticizing because the people running the club won't change anything. The general feeling is "no point complaining as nothing will change". Well this proves otherwise. This shows that the people running the club might try fobbing us off and avoid addressing our concerns, but if we are vocal enough then eventually they have no choice but to listen. Don't be defeatist and assume there is no point in complaining, because I think that's what the BOD are wanting people to feel like.
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12 Aug 2019 12:16 #34 by CCU
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Who’s being defeatist?

I’m merely making a statement...

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12 Aug 2019 12:17 #35 by Kessler
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CCU wrote: Who’s being defeatist?

I’m merely making a statement...


I don't specifically mean you. I'm just saying that while some people on here have said there's no point complaining because nothing changes, things like this prove that isn't true.

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12 Aug 2019 13:21 #36 by Mullen103
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thesilentone wrote: If you want to be taken seriously in future, I would let this thread die quickly.


I couldn't care less about being taken seriously.

However, if the club wants to be taken seriously as a professional football club then maybe just maybe it should do what they say they are going to do, show professionalism and don't be sloppy.

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12 Aug 2019 16:02 #37 by sirjimmyglass
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Things like this really aren't important; there must a tiny amount of people who will see that board and think "I should go to that" so the effect on the club isn't that big at all.

But the people complaining are absolutely right to, because it is small things like this that show fans that there's a lack of attention to detail around the club. If they're showing such a lack of attention to small things, what are they missing that is more important?

Supporter relations are CUFC (and most other clubs) are fragile, they shouldn't be making such simple mistakes as this.

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13 Aug 2019 15:02 #38 by Mush
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They should have been putting posters up in the city centre advertising fixtures for years. The club needs more fans all the time, the least they should be doing is promoting the matches!
Walking round the town you wouldn't know the city had a football team.

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13 Aug 2019 18:49 #39 by seesaw50
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Come on lads..probably an oversight...can't say I've noticed it at any other time, so one off probably.
Get yerselves down the allotment and give it a rest.

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20 Aug 2019 13:44 #40 by CCU
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Oversights must be regular!

Early this morning and the Mansfield game was still at the top of the Board...

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20 Aug 2019 14:04 #41 by Mullen103
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CCU wrote: Oversights must be regular!

Early this morning and the Mansfield game was still at the top of the Board...


It's a joke really!

But I least expected them to take it seriously considering the complaints on here and maybe stop doing it after a few months but a few days meh.

It's not the end of the world but this highlights the lack of professionalism and urge to do things right and just have a bit of pride.

The board isn't the best as you have to keep moving each fixture up, they'd be better with a digital one (that they can maybe sell space for and earn money) but that's not happening or just something that shows the next fixture.

It's the only advertisement the club has outside the ground, or even in the town, without social media. should be a higher priority than it has.

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20 Aug 2019 14:38 - 20 Aug 2019 14:58 #42 by Kessler
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Mullen103 wrote: But I least expected them to take it seriously considering the complaints on here and maybe stop doing it after a few months but a few days meh.


I did think there was a bit more willingness to engage but it seems it was all talk and they actually don't give a shit. It's disgraceful, they are treating fans with utter contempt then acting surprised when attendances drop.

Mullen103 wrote: It's not the end of the world but this highlights the lack of professionalism and urge to do things right and just have a bit of pride.


If they can't be arsed to have even a little bit of pride and professionalism then they need to resign and give the club to people who actually care about it.
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20 Aug 2019 15:39 #43 by Waltero
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Maybe the Trust could make that a priority in their fund-raising.

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20 Aug 2019 15:56 #44 by Mush
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I know they're in the championship but I was next to Wigan's gound today and beside the main road they've got a big poster advertising the next home game.

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20 Aug 2019 16:21 #45 by thetashkentterror
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seesaw50 wrote: Come on lads..probably an oversight...can't say I've noticed it at any other time, so one off probably.
Get yerselves down the allotment and give it a rest.



It's been going on for years, all the time.

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20 Aug 2019 16:27 #46 by Mush
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Bet it never happened in the Fred Story years.

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20 Aug 2019 17:28 #47 by Mullen103
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I'm amazed at an email response I/others have had about this.

Can't be bothered to argue, I won't put on here for my sanity but it Beggers belief that something so easy/quick to sort is becoming so complicated.

We are a strange club that doesn't help itself.

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20 Aug 2019 17:47 #48 by Waltero
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They really don't give a toss. Simple things they can't get right, no wonder the club's in a mess

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20 Aug 2019 18:07 #49 by Dancingbear
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I know its not the point but i wonder how many people would actually base a decision to go to a game or even not be aware the games on on saturday on the basis of that sign being up to date?.

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20 Aug 2019 18:16 #50 by Mullen103
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Just get rid of it

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