Supporters are losing interest it seems

No one seems that interested in the club anymore, match threads are hardly commented on where as a few seasons a go there was at least a bit of interest and hope. The cost cutting at the club has made lot of fans lose interest and you can't blame them. There's still the diehards I know but there doesn't seem much to get excited about.

It’s called Terminal decline.

I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Where is NCF?

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

You make some good points, however the negativity and apathy only derive from a deeper malaise at the club. The negativity and apathy are symptoms of the problem, not the cause.

And incidentally I saw and heard far more criticism from Oldham fans towards their team and club after their defeat at Carlisle, than I ever hear from Carlisle fans toward their team. Carlisle fans have the patience of saints.

I didn't see him today but he is at most games both home and away, just doesn't frequent the message board very often nowadays.

I think this message board represents the club quite well as a whole - very very boring!

After 40 odd years going to games I was thinking of knocking it on the head for a while.

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Inevitably more people will complain after a defeat, so that's no surprise.

However, the same problems are there even after a win.

Look at the Oldham game, yes we won, but the game itself was appalling in terms of entertainment and quality, you've got someone saying the service was crap in the East Stand, the beer was awful in the Sunset Suite and you had the lovely new decor in the Sporting Inn.

The same kind of problems, quality of the game excepted, that have been going on for years and years and years and people are expected not to be negative about it.

I'd also point out on negativity, that some people are glass half full and some are glass half empty, that's the way life is.

Glass half fullers need to realise at times that some glass half emptiers have issues with mental health, at even the most minor level that lead to a negative outlook on life, so why would that negative outlook not extend to their view on CUFC?

A dodgy pie and a flat pint has been the norm for decades and doesn't really bother me but watching the football this season has been the grimmest of the grim.

Has I-follow affected the interest in the actual match threads? Those not at the game are now just watching it on their laptops instead, rather than coming on here for updates and information?

As for the general feeling of negativity I think it's human nature. Like a lot on here I guess, my mood for the rest of the weekend is set by 4:50 on Saturday. If we win I probably won't even look on here until Monday : I don't need to, I'm off enjoying the rest of the weekend. Lose , and we seek solidarity in those who feel equally glum - just human nature.

What I really like about this board is the nostalgia threads though and they seem to be dying. The "guess the ex Carlisle player" thread a few months back was brilliant!
Maybe someone needs to start some of them rather than this board descending into a) political arguments and b) how crap the current team are.

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

If that’s what you want to read about Bumble then maybe posting about them would be a good idea. People not at the game and who weren’t in a position to listen or watch on ifollow only get a snapshot and when that snapshot suggests it was a magnificent performance people are bound to say a 1-0 defeat at Newport doesn’t constitute magnificent. It may have been a good performance but in the end they scored and we didn’t. That isn’t magnificent.

Bring back Northern Soul.

You're sounding a bit negative these days DB. There's no room for that on here.

There are times when one might have a lot on your mind or other things going on, that you really crave the escapism football watching/football crack can bring.
It's only a game but one can get a bit fed up of hoping for a lift and it's a poor game or another defeat.
It's true to say you get all sorts of people who like following Carlisle for all sorts of reasons.
I don't think it's wrong to either be glass half-full and trying to have a positive outlook but neither is the opposite.
There is no right or wrong.
For me personally , I loved the Keith Curle era with a few characters in the side and the great man himself hyping it up and talking bollocks.
It's very flat now and I suspect we will see apathy winning over negativity, which is more worrying really.
I think in the forthcoming period we will see dwindling crowds and people losing interest, just because there isn't really any hope of improvement and it gets too depressing.
This is what I personally think and how I feel about things currently. It's just personal opinions in the end.

thetashkentterror wrote:

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Inevitably more people will complain after a defeat, so that's no surprise.

However, the same problems are there even after a win.

Look at the Oldham game, yes we won, but the game itself was appalling in terms of entertainment and quality, you've got someone saying the service was crap in the East Stand, the beer was awful in the Sunset Suite and you had the lovely new decor in the Sporting Inn.

The same kind of problems, quality of the game excepted, that have been going on for years and years and years and people are expected not to be negative about it.

I'd also point out on negativity, that some people are glass half full and some are glass half empty, that's the way life is.

Glass half fullers need to realise at times that some glass half emptiers have issues with mental health, at even the most minor level that lead to a negative outlook on life, so why would that negative outlook not extend to their view on CUFC?

I can be as negative as the next fan and gobby with it, but no one wants to come to a message board and read negative moaning, with no constructive criticism, week after week, it just becomes repetative and boring. I like the match threads, particularly after the match. I want different opinions, things mentioned I didn't see, things I did see but a different take on it. Even if those posts are negative , I still like to read them. Its the constant "that was crap, we were crap" posts that get me down, the ones that I get the feeling some folk have stored on wordpad, to cut and paste into any match thread, any topic.

Can we have two match threads in future please, one for talk on the actual match concerned and the match day experience at the match. Negative or positive but specifc to that match, saying what went wrong and right. Then another one, labelled "that was crap" just for the generic, one size fits all posts!

Don't get your point with glass half fullers at all. Not all negative thinkers suffer from mental health issues, not all positive thinkers are free of mental health issues. I am not going to assume that because some one is negative they have mental health issues, I feel that would do them and the illness an injustice.

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Absolutely bang on.

Simply put: supporters are losing interest because it’s crap.

If you’re not happy about the standard of posts on the match thread, or any others, post something to change the direction of it.

Just like those that complain about their question not being asked, ask it?

I know a lot of supporters from other teams and our match day threads and complaints are very mild in comparison, hence the Oldham comments. I think that’s a Carlisle/Cumbrian mentality though.

There’s no excitement at the club, it just seems to be “getting by� and going through the motions. The leagues finished already so the only thing left is a big draw in the 3rd round of the FA cup.

Bumble wrote:

thetashkentterror wrote:

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Inevitably more people will complain after a defeat, so that's no surprise.

However, the same problems are there even after a win.

Look at the Oldham game, yes we won, but the game itself was appalling in terms of entertainment and quality, you've got someone saying the service was crap in the East Stand, the beer was awful in the Sunset Suite and you had the lovely new decor in the Sporting Inn.

The same kind of problems, quality of the game excepted, that have been going on for years and years and years and people are expected not to be negative about it.

I'd also point out on negativity, that some people are glass half full and some are glass half empty, that's the way life is.

Glass half fullers need to realise at times that some glass half emptiers have issues with mental health, at even the most minor level that lead to a negative outlook on life, so why would that negative outlook not extend to their view on CUFC?

I can be as negative as the next fan and gobby with it, but no one wants to come to a message board and read negative moaning, with no constructive criticism, week after week, it just becomes repetative and boring. I like the match threads, particularly after the match. I want different opinions, things mentioned I didn't see, things I did see but a different take on it. Even if those posts are negative , I still like to read them. Its the constant "that was crap, we were crap" posts that get me down, the ones that I get the feeling some folk have stored on wordpad, to cut and paste into any match thread, any topic.

Can we have two match threads in future please, one for talk on the actual match concerned and the match day experience at the match. Negative or positive but specifc to that match, saying what went wrong and right. Then another one, labelled "that was crap" just for the generic, one size fits all posts!

Don't get your point with glass half fullers at all. Not all negative thinkers suffer from mental health issues, not all positive thinkers are free of mental health issues. I am not going to assume that because some one is negative they have mental health issues, I feel that would do them and the illness an injustice.

Fair point, could have worded it better looking back on it, although I did say some as opposed to everyone.

Agree that there are two or three who turn every thread, whatever it is on, into complaining about the state of the club.

Carlisle has had many false dawns, I think the Board have tried, but so did Shepherd at Newcastle.

We appear to be top heavy, with to many agenda's, this is felt by the fans. The bottom line is, we have no dosh. Without FS writing off a massive amount, and getting into hock to the current beneficiaries where would we be ? add to this the debt to the Jenkins Family, and the CUIST group, it is all negative.

But, footy is also changing, and wet windy week nights must become a thing of the past, they are adding to the demise.

The whole structure of lower league footy needs to change, and I accept we can do now't about that. Our frustration is sitting around watching it happen, and until Sheik Monybags comes along, this is where we are.

The way we're playing Richard we won't get through the 1st round

Waltero wrote: The way we're playing Richard we won't get through the 1st round

Stop being negative

Don't you mean " get behind the team you [censored]

nobbyblue wrote: You're sounding a bit negative these days DB. There's no room for that on here.

After 30 years I’m really losing interest Nobby. For numerous reasons I haven’t been since the Ross County match.

paddockite wrote:

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Absolutely bang on.

I’ve been saying it for a while now the forum moderators and some users are narcissistic and defiantly not representative of the clubs support, the forum is run by a few for a few . Crack on , talk amongst yourselves. People are catching on to your insular agenda

lummy8 wrote: Where is NCF?

Been thinking this as well...........Obviously bored of the same old rubbish, if you dont criticise you risk the wrath of the main critics...some of who, dare I say it again, haven't been to a game for some time.

seesaw50 wrote:

lummy8 wrote: Where is NCF?

Been thinking this as well...........Obviously bored of the same old rubbish, if you dont criticise you risk the wrath of the main critics...some of who, dare I say it, haven't been to a game for some time.

NCF .. good riddance! Apparently he’s doing a bit with Northampton

Mullen103 wrote: Simply put: supporters are losing interest because it’s crap.

If you’re not happy about the standard of posts on the match thread, or any others, post something to change the direction of it.

Just like those that complain about their question not being asked, ask it?

I know a lot of supporters from other teams and our match day threads and complaints are very mild in comparison, hence the Oldham comments. I think that’s a Carlisle/Cumbrian mentality though.

There’s no excitement at the club, it just seems to be “getting by� and going through the motions. The leagues finished already so the only thing left is a big draw in the 3rd round of the FA cup.

Bumble.....may refer you to Mullen's first sentence.

Richard's glass isn't even a quarter full ....

Cumbrians are negative souls mostly...... its the weather

I'm one not been to a single game so far this season...

Might make the odd game but my interest has waned to its lowest ebb ever. I still want us to win and follow the scores but I think I'll only recapture my enthusiasm when the temporary custodians take a hike.

Bumble wrote:

thetashkentterror wrote:

Bumble wrote: I think the never ending negativity on here contibutes to the lack of posters. It becomes an effort to come and read the match threads when you know it will be the same comments by the same posters.

I thought there would be a bit of reaction in the match thread today.

Us starting without either Thomas or McKirdy, should Loft have come on sooner?
Did Bridge coming back make a difference?
Were the tactics right?
Were the Newport players justified in running back to goad the Carlisle fans and did the stewards act correctly?

These are the sort of things I want to read in the match thread.

Everyone has the right to an opinion, even if they don't go to games, but when it's the same old, same old opinion, week after week after week, for me it gets boring and difficult to read, so it makes it harder to make the effort to post.

Inevitably more people will complain after a defeat, so that's no surprise.

However, the same problems are there even after a win.

Look at the Oldham game, yes we won, but the game itself was appalling in terms of entertainment and quality, you've got someone saying the service was crap in the East Stand, the beer was awful in the Sunset Suite and you had the lovely new decor in the Sporting Inn.

The same kind of problems, quality of the game excepted, that have been going on for years and years and years and people are expected not to be negative about it.

I'd also point out on negativity, that some people are glass half full and some are glass half empty, that's the way life is.

Glass half fullers need to realise at times that some glass half emptiers have issues with mental health, at even the most minor level that lead to a negative outlook on life, so why would that negative outlook not extend to their view on CUFC?

I can be as negative as the next fan and gobby with it, but no one wants to come to a message board and read negative moaning, with no constructive criticism, week after week, it just becomes repetative and boring. I like the match threads, particularly after the match. I want different opinions, things mentioned I didn't see, things I did see but a different take on it. Even if those posts are negative , I still like to read them. Its the constant "that was crap, we were crap" posts that get me down, the ones that I get the feeling some folk have stored on wordpad, to cut and paste into any match thread, any topic.

Can we have two match threads in future please, one for talk on the actual match concerned and the match day experience at the match. Negative or positive but specifc to that match, saying what went wrong and right. Then another one, labelled "that was crap" just for the generic, one size fits all posts!

Don't get your point with glass half fullers at all. Not all negative thinkers suffer from mental health issues, not all positive thinkers are free of mental health issues. I am not going to assume that because some one is negative they have mental health issues, I feel that would do them and the illness an injustice.

Do you think he was joking......not like the terror to be so bold, or contentious! Some statement that

To be honest, I was being serious.

I didn't mean on here in particular, which is why I said it was badly worded.

I meant that in life in general that if you have some specific mental health issues like depression or anxiety for example then the majority of us I would guess (including myself as I come off anti-depressants after six years) find thoughts tend to be more negative than positive.

Again, original post badly worded and generalised people. Sorry.

The other side of the coin, maybe, if you have a negative outlook on everything you may bring mental health problems on yourself. Just a thought

Am guessing Man U and Man City fans are a bit depressed tonight

If you think we’re shite, you’ve got a mental illness.

There’s also mania whereby your positive in everything and don’t see the consequences.

Maybe we’re all mentally ill.

Seesaw the glass isn’t a quarter full it emptied a long long time ago.

I think a big reason that match threads have suffered in recent times is the fact that the alternatives to keep up with the match are much, much better. When match threads were busiest it was because people who weren't at the match were listening on the radio and posting on here with bits of opinion.

You can now follow what's going on much better on Twitter, either following Andy Hall, John Coleman or anybody else who's at the match. They're far quicker at announcing scores, so why would you check on here?

The fact that there's a lot of doom and gloom on here doesn't help, and neither does the fact that we're a bit rubbish, but Twitter is a bigger reason that match threads are suffering.

1-0 game over

That's the sort of thing that puts me off the match threads, especially when it's after 15 minutes.

I hardly bother posting on here any more because of the negativity, of certain people.
Don't mind too much if its constructive criticism, but its the same old stuff trotted out time and time again, " Jenkins is killing the club", "we'll go non league with the present regime", "Holdsworth, Clibbins, Pressley, Pattison and Jenkins are all [censored] and should just ---- right off".
If I've heard it once on here I've heard it a thousand times, we KNOW that they don't seem great at running a club, we know that there apparently NO MONEY to splash about, we know that we haven't the greatest of squads.
So what are the critics going to do about it, how are you going to suggest we rectify the problems?
Instead of just moaning like silly old women, lets hear something positive, lets tell everybody what you are all going to do about it!
I've got a feeling the silence is going to be deafening.

When things are crap then pretending that your glass is half full or full is stupidity, this is called kidding yourself.

If we had gotten a draw on Saturday then you could call this glass half full but we got beat so it is empty.

And I would call it stupidity for anyone reading the match thread after a defeat looking for everyone to be upbeat whilst we languish in eighteenth.

It is like buying a newspaper and being disgusted at the real life events taking place as you were expecting it to be full of stories about firemen rescuing cute furry kittens from trees and families re-united after decades apart.

For a start then you tell us what you're going to do about it. We're entitled to bitch twine et all

munchymagic wrote: When things are crap then pretending that your glass is half full or full is stupidity, this is called kidding yourself.

If we had gotten a draw on Saturday then you could call this glass half full but we got beat so it is empty.

And I would call it stupidity for anyone reading the match thread after a defeat looking for everyone to be upbeat whilst we languish in eighteenth.

It is like buying a newspaper and being disgusted at the real life events taking place as you were expecting it to be full of stories about firemen rescuing cute furry kittens from trees and families re-united after decades apart.

Firefighters Munchy. They can’t say firemen anymore

Personally what makes me lose interest and think I ain't going to spend my money at the club is that every summer and even during the season there's always something to put me off the owners even more, be it the billionaire sarga, EWM lies, owners / chief executive / director of football lies, lack of ambition etc...

The club is a hobbie to the owners and they don't want to let go of their privileges as they know if someone new took over most of them wouldn't be welcome.

It saddens me what they've done to the club and don't think they've done anything wrong.

It’s just a bit like Brexit to me. People are in one camp or another.
Some people are very critical of the board/owners of the club and are very angry about the state the club is in. They feel very passionate about this and find it hard to accept that we can tolerate such underachievement.
Others prefer not to get involved in that kind of talk as they would rather just focus on footballling matters and are more pragmatic about where we are at.
Just different outlooks.
I am more in the second camp, to be honest, but neither is wrong.
The moderators of this board do loads of work in removing off topic and inappropriate comments. Don’t think they can do any more than one they do.
Having a very average team producing very average results is the main thing for us all to be fed up about, I think.

If we were doing well, top half of the table, playing nice football and a good matchday experience, then the moaners would annoy me too.

But the fact is we aren't, we aren't, we aren't and it isn't.

Bumble wrote: I can be as negative as the next fan and gobby with it, but no one wants to come to a message board and read negative moaning, with no constructive criticism, week after week, it just becomes repetative and boring.

But what is there to be positive about though? The club is slowly dying, the directors are completely out of touch and have deluded themselves into thinking it's just a few fans who are unhappy with them rather than looking at the thousands who have walked away in the last decade and thought about why that might be. Even when you get the occasional good result, it's hard to see it as a positive because the overall direction of the club these days means we'll probably be in non league within a few years unless something changes.

Bumble wrote: I like the match threads, particularly after the match. I want different opinions, things mentioned I didn't see, things I did see but a different take on it. Even if those posts are negative , I still like to read them. Its the constant "that was crap, we were crap" posts that get me down, the ones that I get the feeling some folk have stored on wordpad, to cut and paste into any match thread, any topic.

But things are crap. Why is it wrong to point that out? If the club want less negativity, then give us stuff we can be positive about.

Kessler wrote:

Bumble wrote: I can be as negative as the next fan and gobby with it, but no one wants to come to a message board and read negative moaning, with no constructive criticism, week after week, it just becomes repetative and boring.

But what is there to be positive about though? The club is slowly dying, the directors are completely out of touch and have deluded themselves into thinking it's just a few fans who are unhappy with them rather than looking at the thousands who have walked away in the last decade and thought about why that might be. Even when you get the occasional good result, it's hard to see it as a positive because the overall direction of the club these days means we'll probably be in non league within a few years unless something changes.

Bumble wrote: I like the match threads, particularly after the match. I want different opinions, things mentioned I didn't see, things I did see but a different take on it. Even if those posts are negative , I still like to read them. Its the constant "that was crap, we were crap" posts that get me down, the ones that I get the feeling some folk have stored on wordpad, to cut and paste into any match thread, any topic.

But things are crap. Why is it wrong to point that out? If the club want less negativity, then give us stuff we can be positive about.

Indeed I've lost count of the number of people I've got in conversation with, who have told me that they used to attend the matches, but gave up going (x, y, z) years ago.

A friend of mine decided to attend the matches with me earlier this year. He gave up after three games and hasn't been back. He doesn't moan on this message-board as I do, but unlike me he walked away and therefore contributes nothing to the club's finances, which I still do.

seesaw50 wrote: The other side of the coin, maybe, if you have a negative outlook on everything you may bring mental health problems on yourself. Just a thought

Am guessing Man U and Man City fans are a bit depressed tonight

If eating fish makes you come out with a statement like that you need to get back on the meat again.
"bringing mental health problems on yourself" ffs

I, like most folk know many fans, friends and family, who have stopped going in recent years, some relative newbies who got caught up in the Knighton/Courtenay/Story rollercoaster, some who had been through the dreariness of pre Knighton but can't face it again.

I am not saying that there isn't a lot to be negative about. I'm certainly not saying folk shouldn't be negaqtive, that's up to each to decide. But for me personally, it puts me off posting, particularly on a match thread.

It's not the negativity per se, when we play badly it's justified but if all the post says is "we're crap, DH is crap, the owners are crap" I don't learn anything new. I don't get any insights into players. I don't find out things I missed. The "we're crap" stuff I've heard a hundred times before, so I can't be bothered to read the thread or post on it.

So I'm not criticising folk for being negative, or that it's wrong to post negative posts. I wouldn't say that, everyone's opinion is valid.

I am saying that personally I find the threads that just say we're crap and nothing new boring, particularly in a match thread when I hope for current comment. When there is little current and new over a few games it means I stop reading them, maybe thats just me?

Bumble wrote: I, like most folk know many fans, friends and family, who have stopped going in recent years, some relative newbies who got caught up in the Knighton/Courtenay/Story rollercoaster, some who had been through the dreariness of pre Knighton but can't face it again.

I am not saying that there isn't a lot to be negative about. I'm certainly not saying folk shouldn't be negaqtive, that's up to each to decide. But for me personally, it puts me off posting, particularly on a match thread.

It's not the negativity per se, when we play badly it's justified but if all the post says is "we're crap, DH is crap, the owners are crap" I don't learn anything new. I don't get any insights into players. I don't find out things I missed. The "we're crap" stuff I've heard a hundred times before, so I can't be bothered to read the thread or post on it.

So I'm not criticising folk for being negative, or that it's wrong to post negative posts. I wouldn't say that, everyone's opinion is valid.

I am saying that personally I find the threads that just say we're crap and nothing new boring, particularly in a match thread when I hope for current comment. When there is little current and new over a few games it means I stop reading them, maybe thats just me?

I wouldn't let other people's negativity put you off posting your thoughts on team selection,tactics, substitutions etc. People will still take an interest in them and respond with their opinions.

I think everybody uses an internal filter when viewing a forum such as this to edit out content that we find boring. Certainly I do.