Extinction rebellion

Get up you prat

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7547245...children-crying.html

All the usual suspects, the hipsters and unemployable career protesters disrupting other folks lives ....I feel sorry for the taxi drivers of London, and their fares, in all this. I was unlucky enough to be in London a few years back when a march was taking place, the route we had to take to get from Victoria Station to Euston was ridiculous.....and cost £48 instead of around £18.
They're doing it for 2 weeks apparently as well .....not saying the cause isn't just btw but obstruction of the highway isn't on to this extent

Shame we don't use the water cannon, that would shift them. Do they not realise that by causing traffic jams they are adding to air pollution not forgetting the generators they're using. Hypocrites the lot of them.

What the ones that Boris bought rom the Germans then found out they couldnt be used and had to be scrapped

Shame we don't just [censored] kill everything!!
Posts about people walking across hills admiring (quite rightly) deer and birds then back to the Daily Express world where oil and weapons manufacturers are all that matters. I'm coming 60 but I want my grand kids to live in a world that isn't full of shit. This idea that hoping that a bunch of rich old white guys are going to make everything better needs to be knocked on the head. Stephen Hawking said man would be extinct by 2100, looking like he could be right, but we're going to take everything else with us

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-49892209

I always thought they were a British invention. If the mayor of London got his act together he could bring out some sort of emergency act banning this type of mob action. But the snowflakes would be screaming " that's not fair"

The hard working tube drivers wont be getting a "beaucoup" day off and will no doubt be keeping the City moving.

CCU wrote: Decent hard working Meat Traders losing a days worth of trade now...

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Waltero wrote: I always thought they were a British invention. If the mayor of London got his act together he could bring out some sort of emergency act banning this type of mob action. But the snowflakes would be screaming " that's not fair"

You'll wait a long time expecting the Mayor of London to get his act together. His nickname is Khan't because he is so ineffective. No wonder no-hoper Rory Stewart thinks he has a good chance in the next London election.

I think many of these soft liberals who are joining the XR protests regard it as their Greenham Common where they can look back in 30 years and say yes I was there, I got arrested.

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Socks arent vegetables man they should be wiped out.

I think a grown man with kids wriggling around on the ground crying in the name of the planet says an awful lot about the state of Britain Marko.

Why doesn’t he try China or India where there are millions scratching around for food whilst they destroy their environment?Because they would be imprisoned or executed for dissent.

Let’s hope they find out who this cretin is and get him some medication

If I was taxi driver in London I would just run them over if they got in my way and take the consequences.

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Waltero wrote: I always thought they were a British invention. If the mayor of London got his act together he could bring out some sort of emergency act banning this type of mob action. But the snowflakes would be screaming " that's not fair"

You'll wait a long time expecting the Mayor of London to get his act together. His nickname is Khan't because he is so ineffective. No wonder no-hoper Rory Stewart thinks he has a good chance in the next London election.

I think many of these soft liberals who are joining the XR protests regard it as their Greenham Common where they can look back in 30 years and say yes I was there, I got arrested.

Khan won't be Mayor for much longer the Tube Drivers will make sure of that. His left wing Socialist attitude means they have to be seen to support him, less days lost from strikes during his tenure than when Boris was mayor, and that will not do. Rock on Rory will walk it, he has all the credentials a private educated old Etonian with plummy speech and a Tory who believes you have to work for what you get. A Tube drivers dream.

nobbyblue wrote: If I was taxi driver in London I would just run them over if they got in my way and take the consequences.

Just as well your cab is in Carlisle then nobby.

I'm surprised they have the energy to protest after walking or cycling to London from all over the UK.

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Seriously
Yeah eat less meat ..just back from Italy hardly ate any meat all week....fish and vegetables...guess what felt better for it

Reaches for tin hat

And the moral of the story is?

I stopped eating meat 7 months ago-just fish now.Feel much stronger.Dont miss it to be honest

Some of us can only afford turkey dinosaurs and maybe the odd pack of crabsticks though.

Treat myself to the odd Porterhouse steak every once in a while,otherwise i make do with Caviar and Lobster.

You can't beat a big fat Cumberland sausage inside you.

You'd never get oral sex off a vegan woman as they won't put any meat in their mouths

Cumbrian and not eating meat, is like being Korean and not eating dog !!

Mullen103 wrote: You can't beat a big fat Cumberland sausage inside you.

I think that Richard should have given some thought before his post, I'm surprised it took so long for the comments to start

Waltero wrote: You'd never get oral sex off a vegan woman as they won't put any meat in their mouths

Won't put dead meat in their mouths Walt.

Waltero wrote: I think that Richard should have given some thought before his post, I'm surprised it took so long for the comments to start

I think he knew full well what he was saying Like the woman who said she likes a bit of pork in cider.

As a counter protest I'm having a mixed grill for tea and have the car and my van ticking over on the front.

Eat shit kunto's

I don't think there's much point in addressing environmental concerns unless we also address the flaws in capitalism that contribute to it. As long as businesses are greedy and more concerned about making a profit than anything else, the environment will always come second.

Get yourself down to London with Swampy Kessler-you sound like an ideal disciple for his cause.Have a pizza at Pizza Express before it implodes-naughty capitalists.

Laffy wrote: Get yourself down to London with Swampy Kessler-you sound like an ideal disciple for his cause.Have a pizza at Pizza Express before it implodes-naughty capitalists.

Oh I'm sorry Laffy, I thought you said you didn't like greed?

I always love it when people say they don't eat meat and only eat fish as if that somehow makes them more green and environmentally friendly.

Fish are killed in probably the least humane way of any creature we eat, and the seabeds and sea population have been absolutely destroyed by excessive industrial trawling.

I am fish only with the occasional steak. So neither. However, fish farms are creating very concentrated levels of poo which affect the oceans but buying wild is very expensive.

Thank God we don't have such a thing as major terrorist threats in our country seeing as Police resources are already being stretched my these scruffy [censored].

Kessler wrote: I don't think there's much point in addressing environmental concerns unless we also address the flaws in capitalism that contribute to it. As long as businesses are greedy and more concerned about making a profit than anything else, the environment will always come second.

As I understand it company directors are mandated to return maximum shareholder value, unless it's a not for profit organisation.

At a small scale level I used to work with small businesses, plumbers, gardeners, authors, even people who made and sold jam and chutney etc, etc. I never met anyone whose aim wasn't to maximise profit. It's the main objective whenever people go into business. To relegate the profit motive from business would basically shut down the economy. The alternative would be something like the USSR or present day Venezuela.

Bluedazblue wrote: At a small scale level I used to work with small businesses, plumbers, gardeners, authors, even people who made and sold jam and chutney etc, etc. I never met anyone whose aim wasn't to maximise profit. It's the main objective whenever people go into business.

I just don't understand how anyone can justify businesses wanting to make more money, but somehow the government is wrong for doing the same thing.

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Bluedazblue wrote: At a small scale level I used to work with small businesses, plumbers, gardeners, authors, even people who made and sold jam and chutney etc, etc. I never met anyone whose aim wasn't to maximise profit. It's the main objective whenever people go into business.

Do you consider any of those businesses "greedy" for wanting to take in more money? If not, then why is the govenment greedy for wanting to do exactly the same? Either wanting to take money from people is greedy, or it's not.

Whether I think that those businesses are greedy or not, is neither here nor there. Maybe they are. My opinion doesn't matter. It's a fact.

As far as the government is concerned, any government, it has the choice of taking more money from people and businesses (via tax) to implement its policies, or to borrow the money and let future generations pay back the money and interest.

In twenty-eight years I literally never came across one business or individual who turned down a tax refund or volunteered to pay more tax than necessary. Sorry if that's unreasonable on their part, but that's the way it is.

If you want to reduce your business profit, or your take home pay voluntarily and pay more tax in the process, then you're first one I've ever come across.

Brilliant analysis-it’s amazing how socialists become capitalists when they have their own money at stake

Laffy I still don't understand why you call Corbyn's policies "greedy". Greed usually refers to a selfish desire for stuff. Corbyn wouldn't spend those taxes on himself, he would put that money into helping lower earners and on improving public services like the NHS. He wouldn't personally profit from that money at all. So why do you describe his policies as being selfish, when that's clearly not true?

What I don't understand is why our fascist friends keep going on about Venezuela. Venezuela has been excluded from the dollar clearing system so it can't get the cash for its oil exports. Venezuela has billions in London but Johnson and Co won't release it. The problems in Venezuela are because of economic war, before the imposition of sanctions growth was much faster than in Britain.
We're now seeing similar in Ecuador. In return for expelling Assange Ecuador was granted 4.2bn in loans. But the loans came with strings. Those strings have now resulted in austerity, mass redundancies and 173% increase in fuel prices. Needless to say British state controlled media isn't reporting the hundreds of thousands of protesters on the street

Kessler-Corbyn preaches envy, an extension of greed. The natural target is the perceived rich-he doesn’t discriminate between earned wealth and inherited, and makes this accessible by making making wealthy people charlatans.

There is nothing wrong with greed in the right context-greed for knowledge, to better things for all.

Have a read of this by Caitlin Moran Kessler-it’s a brilliant piece of writing
www.bookcrossing.com/forum/6/516499/8435054 ?

Laffy wrote: Kessler-Corbyn preaches envy, an extension of greed. The natural target is the perceived rich-he doesn’t discriminate between earned wealth and inherited, and makes this accessible by making making wealthy people charlatans.

Envy implies that the wealthy have more of a right to their wealth than others. But if they only made that wealth from profiting off the hard work of others, then all that's happening with higher taxation is the working class asking for money which is rightfully theirs anyway. If someone takes my wallet, am I "greedy" for wanting them to give that money back?

Laffy wrote: There is nothing wrong with greed in the right context-greed for knowledge, to better things for all.

On some level I think we agree. I think it's ok to want to make a profit, but that we should draw a line somewhere. A maximum wage or a limit on what you can earn, and anything over that can be invested into improving public services and helping those on lower incomes.

I can assure you Kessler that there is a tipping point where taxation/redistribution deters risk and associated reward.Finding the balance is the key.Taxing reward and success at penal rates is madness-I would be happy with a different rate of tax for investment income as this would encourage more investment

The government thought putting up stamp duty would collect more tax-the reality is it has had the opposite effect.

Likewise, quantitive easing was supposed to stave off recession and thus protect the less wealthy-it has actually had the opposite effect and the inequality gap has widened.It was actually closing until this was introduced.

I think the best solution is to raise tax thresholds to take more at the bottom of the ladder out of tax-and let them decide how they, rather than the government, spend it.

When you take people out of tax you break the sense of connection with services and sense of personal investment.

Why do so many people take the NHS for granted? Because it's 'free' and therefore of little value. When you aren't contributing to the upkeep of our roads and infrastructure, what right have you to complain?

I’m very much in favour of a living basic income and I think at lower levels, having a roof and putting food on the table is more important than the connection between tax and responsibility

Who is going to rebel when they are all extinct?

Looking forward to digging this thread back up when Brexit gets cancelled and the 'scruffy [censored]' protesting are those who are complaining at this.