Jarrad Branthwaite - January Bid??

What do we think, will he be the subject of a bid in January?

If so whats he worth, what would he go for?

I'll start

1. Yes
2. Worth - 1m
3. Sell 250k with sell on clauses

CCU wrote: The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...

1 million for Jenkins.
150k for Nixon.
50k for Pattison.
If they all resign i could live with that.

Heard last week Liverpool are after Branthwaite and have been given first refusal .

Club should`nt let him go for less than 500k plus add on`s.

James Philips said wolves as i remember had made a bid. Purchase with loan back

If we got decent money for him i would trust Elvis to find a couple of decent players. Then screw them up

I thought Leeds had first dibs on all of our youth players?

Can’t say I’ve been overly impressed with him the couple of times I’ve seen him, yes he’s an improvement on what was there before but considering how bad our defence was that’s no great shakes.

Wasn’t really tested first half against Northampton but made two big mistakes in their opening goal and looked quite uncomfortable from there on. Against Orient he didn’t seem to understand his role in a back 5 and struggled badly before being hooked at half-time, perhaps not his fault but he didn’t look great.

Early days I suppose but talk of million pound moves is a tad premature.

Any deal should include a loan back to us for 2 seasons - will be better player here than Premier League 2 or whatever they call it?

For a 17 year old playing in a poor team he has done amazingly well. The potential is obvious. He is under contract beyond the end of the season (I think) so that should add to his value. Let the bidding war commence.

bigboblee wrote: For a 17 year old playing in a poor team he has done amazingly well. The potential is obvious. He is under contract beyond the end of the season (I think) so that should add to his value. Let the bidding war commence.

Undisclosed fee (30k + some old bibs for training)

Sammy Taylor wrote: Heard last week Liverpool are after Branthwaite and have been given first refusal .

If that's true what did we get in exchange for giving them "first refusal"?

Similar deal to us getting first refusal on those Leeds juniors

The Ethan Ampadu fee is the yardstick here.

So "a fee worth £2.5 million".

Ampadu only played a handful of times for Exeter, potentially Branthwaite will have more first team appearances by January than Ampadu managed in his career at Exeter.

Thought you’d been eaten by a shark Piglet-welcome back.

"Just precisely what assets does the club have?"

CCU wrote: The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...

Me too. I'm fed up of seeing the likes of Exeter, Peterborough and others get millions for their young players while our board think they are doing a great job by selling off ours for low 6 figure fees after hardly any games.

If clubs don't think he's worth millions now, keep him and develop him in the first team until someone does value him at that.

Of course I fully expect him to be sold in january for an undisclosed rumoured 250k after just a handful of appearances for us. It's what we do.

CCU wrote: The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...

This is Carlisle United though Dan. Undisclosed with add ons.

Dancingbear wrote: Similar deal to us getting first refusal on those Leeds juniors

Don't forget all those talented players at Park View, too.

All clubs will have an idea of what bids they can get away with for lower league clubs. We will be at the bottom of the pile!

As said it will then be the usual - we couldn't hold him back and undisclosed with nothing going back into the team.

If it is top end Premier League clubs as has been mentioned I wouldn't take anything less than £10m. No instalments.

Think we would get a better sell on if he went to a championship club first.

10 м and watch Day take an interest in the club. He'll come to BP that day

Dancingbear wrote: Similar deal to us getting first refusal on those Leeds juniors

Aye what happened there db....none forthcoming

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote: The level of team supposedly keeping tabs on him, we’re talking top end PL, they can start at £5m then we’ll talk.

I’m serious too...

Me too. I'm fed up of seeing the likes of Exeter, Peterborough and others get millions for their young players while our board think they are doing a great job by selling off ours for low 6 figure fees after hardly any games.

If clubs don't think he's worth millions now, keep him and develop him in the first team until someone does value him at that.

Of course I fully expect him to be sold in january for an undisclosed rumoured 250k after just a handful of appearances for us. It's what we do.

Yeah who's behind these deals...as if we didn't know.....more ruthlessness required or keep them......however not sure what the rules are tbh

franksidebottom wrote: Can’t say I’ve been overly impressed with him the couple of times I’ve seen him, yes he’s an improvement on what was there before but considering how bad our defence was that’s no great shakes.

Wasn’t really tested first half against Northampton but made two big mistakes in their opening goal and looked quite uncomfortable from there on. Against Orient he didn’t seem to understand his role in a back 5 and struggled badly before being hooked at half-time, perhaps not his fault but he didn’t look great.

Early days I suppose but talk of million pound moves is a tad premature.

I hadn't seen Branthwaite till that pre season game v Hibs. He played at right back that night I think and you could see he was something special. Very cool and confident for his age.

He'll play for England one day!

franksidebottom wrote: Can’t say I’ve been overly impressed with him the couple of times I’ve seen him, yes he’s an improvement on what was there before but considering how bad our defence was that’s no great shakes.

Wasn’t really tested first half against Northampton but made two big mistakes in their opening goal and looked quite uncomfortable from there on. Against Orient he didn’t seem to understand his role in a back 5 and struggled badly before being hooked at half-time, perhaps not his fault but he didn’t look great.

Early days I suppose but talk of million pound moves is a tad premature.

Frank have you paid attention to league 2 transfers for the last few years ,17/18 year olds who's never player a game are fetching close to £1million , It's not regarded as pocket change.

The best sign of how good Branthwait is technically is fans were calling for him to be played at right back after that appearance against Hibs , Even though he is left footed (yes he says he's both , but he cuts onto his left to pass ) .

He 17 years old and doesn't even turn 18 until June . He's got the ability of he sticks in to be a wonderful footballer

I’ve heard first hand the man who deals with our transfers rates branthwaite higher than Harry maguire at the same age and is after serious money for him

upperbyblue wrote: I’ve heard first hand the man who deals with our transfers rates branthwaite higher than Harry maguire at the same age and is after serious money for him

Is "the man who deals with our transfers" a good judge of a player?

Usual slagging off of the club but McCarron, Galloway and Branthwaite could bring in (potentially) millions for the club. Well played to Edmondson or whoever found and developed them

Piglet_Phoenix wrote: The Ethan Ampadu fee is the yardstick here.

So "a fee worth £2.5 million".

Ampadu only played a handful of times for Exeter, potentially Branthwaite will have more first team appearances by January than Ampadu managed in his career at Exeter.

Ampadu was already in the full Wales squad by the time he left Exeter, he’d represented country’s at every age group before that.

Happyblue wrote:

franksidebottom wrote: Can’t say I’ve been overly impressed with him the couple of times I’ve seen him, yes he’s an improvement on what was there before but considering how bad our defence was that’s no great shakes.

Wasn’t really tested first half against Northampton but made two big mistakes in their opening goal and looked quite uncomfortable from there on. Against Orient he didn’t seem to understand his role in a back 5 and struggled badly before being hooked at half-time, perhaps not his fault but he didn’t look great.

Early days I suppose but talk of million pound moves is a tad premature.

Frank have you paid attention to league 2 transfers for the last few years ,17/18 year olds who's never player a game are fetching close to £1million , It's not regarded as pocket change.

These transfers are few and far between though Happyblue and circumstances are often different. As mentioned Ampadu was already in the Wales squad by the time he left, Wilmott had already been called up by England at different age groups. Very, very rarely does a lad play less than 10 games and get a £1m move, I’m not saying it cant happen but theyre rare.

Steve Harkness only played 13 games for Carlisle before Liverpool signed him.

franksidebottom wrote:

Piglet_Phoenix wrote: The Ethan Ampadu fee is the yardstick here.

So "a fee worth £2.5 million".

Ampadu only played a handful of times for Exeter, potentially Branthwaite will have more first team appearances by January than Ampadu managed in his career at Exeter.

Ampadu was already in the full Wales squad by the time he left Exeter, he’d represented country’s at every age group before that.

That's like saying we should be asking for a couple of million for Hope because he's in the Barbados squad!

If Hope was 16 and Barbados had made the semi-final of the European Championships less than a year earlier then yeah it is!

I remember Chelsea having to pay £5 million for Tom Taiwo and Michael Woods as young lads. Neither quite made it you could say.

Edmondson should be in line for a bonus after all his hard work.

And what about Curle? Oh hang on he didn’t even want any of the youth team training with the first team did he, I remember talking to Edmondson and asking if there were any promising players up and coming, and he replied what’s the point it doesn’t matter anyway he won’t play them.

melbourneblues wrote: And what about Curle? Oh hang on he didn’t even want any of the youth team training with the first team did he, I remember talking to Edmondson and asking if there were any promising players up and coming, and he replied what’s the point it doesn’t matter anyway he won’t play them.

Who would you have played, from the youth team, that Curle had access too?

Whatever happens to him a sell on clause is essential

Mullen103 wrote:

melbourneblues wrote: And what about Curle? Oh hang on he didn’t even want any of the youth team training with the first team did he, I remember talking to Edmondson and asking if there were any promising players up and coming, and he replied what’s the point it doesn’t matter anyway he won’t play them.

Who would you have played, from the youth team, that Curle had access too?

I’m not Darren Edmondson mullen, the fact is he didn’t want them around and said so, I’m sure you’ll have heard the one about a well known homegrown player who got his agent to ring the club and enquire about a player from the youth team, to be told you can have anyone of them he’s not interested in them.

CCU wrote:

West Cumbria United fan wrote: Whatever happens to him a sell on clause is essential

Aye, we want our 20% when Spurs sell him to Real Madrid for £125m...

That will definitely buy a score board

I believe we have already purchase a score board, it is called a writing pad and biro

melbourneblues wrote:

Mullen103 wrote:

melbourneblues wrote: And what about Curle? Oh hang on he didn’t even want any of the youth team training with the first team did he, I remember talking to Edmondson and asking if there were any promising players up and coming, and he replied what’s the point it doesn’t matter anyway he won’t play them.

Who would you have played, from the youth team, that Curle had access too?

I’m not Darren Edmondson mullen, the fact is he didn’t want them around and said so, I’m sure you’ll have heard the one about a well known homegrown player who got his agent to ring the club and enquire about a player from the youth team, to be told you can have anyone of them he’s not interested in them.

I’m not saying Curies policy was good but they weren’t any good enough - however I disagree with the way he treat the youth team.

Doing the same at Northampton.

I think I would rather leave that to the experts, and how do you know they’re not good enough if they are never given a chance?

melbourneblues wrote: I think I would rather leave that to the experts, and how do you know they’re not good enough if they are never given a chance?

True, Curle never thought any of the youth team were any good yet since his gone we’ve had McCarron, Galloway and now Jarrad.