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04 Apr 2018 09:24 - 04 Apr 2018 09:27 #1 by chesterviabothel
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Club have announced a partnership with Durham based Park View Sports Academy to focus on tapping into +16 age talent in NE. Will invlove us having an u19 side playing in the National Football Youth League, and will mean less disruption to players we pick up for two years. Seems like a good idea all round to help access talent released by NUFC, Sunderland and Boro.

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04 Apr 2018 09:39 #2 by carwash
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Yes all looks very positive.

Last line of the article on the News and Star site says Nigel Clibbens was instrumental in setting up the link with Park View. Well we knew it wouldn't have been Keith. ;-)

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04 Apr 2018 09:45 #3 by lummy8
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Great stuff, some players just need that extra couple of years to develop after their apprenticeship. I wonder if a deal is in place where any of the lads who can make the grade, that they are definitely ours, last thing we want is to monitor all this and a club or agent dive in and take them somewhere else, I know an agency mentioned alongside the "billionaire" are signing up a lot of college players around the north east, if only one of them makes it they make their money.

But all looks really positive and hopefully in next couple of years we have some lads coming over in to the club.

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04 Apr 2018 10:04 #4 by Dancingbear
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carwash wrote: Yes all looks very positive.

Last line of the article on the News and Star site says Nigel Clibbens was instrumental in setting up the link with Park View. Well we knew it wouldn't have been Keith. ;-)


Agree it does look very positive and I suppose it would give the lads coming out of our youth team that KC clearly didn’t think were ready to go into our first team squad somewhere to play for a year if required. I take it we must be paying a amount of money for this. Wonder if it’s coming out of the first team budget or if a sponsor could be helping.

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04 Apr 2018 10:53 #5 by sirjimmyglass
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Shows that they're definitely trying to increase the emphasis put on the youth team and getting some saleable assets again.

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04 Apr 2018 11:02 - 04 Apr 2018 11:05 #6 by CCU
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For clarity, it’s a completely separate set-up from our Youth Team, and appears to be for lads who are released at 16 who don’t get picked up by Pro Clubs.

This new partnership will provide pathways for 16 to 19-year-old footballers who are not affiliated to professional club’s academies the chance to be part of a football scholarship scheme, representing Carlisle United in a National League structure.

So basically, we should already be picking up the best of the cast offs for our Youth Team, then the leftovers can have a second chance in this new set-up.

Link to the League here: www.nfyl.co.uk/

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04 Apr 2018 12:47 #7 by capslockoff
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I am not too sure that there is much to be gained from this. That same academy have a side this season in the league playing as "Berwick Rangers".

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04 Apr 2018 13:41 #8 by sirjimmyglass
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For every Berwick Rangers you've also got a Coventry, Crystal Palace, Birmingham, Burnley and two Sunderlands.

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04 Apr 2018 15:38 #9 by NORTHERNSOUL
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sirjimmyglass wrote: For every Berwick Rangers you've also got a Coventry, Crystal Palace, Birmingham, Burnley and two Sunderlands.


Total cop out and waste of time

A proper development squad is whats needed and Jenkins should fund it like the guy at Fleetwood does.

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever one-minute they're talking about it being a 16-18 north east based Acadamy to mirror the one at BP. Then they're going on about it being somewhere to send the players at the end of their scholarships for a year.

They clearly cant see that all they're doing is getting involved in sham scheme lads who get finish their academy at 18 that the club think might be good enough should join a development squad who would have an arrangement with a non league club to take advantage of dual registration where they will play men's football at the weekend for them and midweek for our development squad as thats the only way to find out if they.ll be good enough.

I just can't understand this fixation with education don't they realise that there are millions of lads out there who.ve had enough of that by the time they get to 16 and just want to concentrate on making a career in football where their skills will find their own level whether its the PL or the Unibond and all forcing them to study does is piss them off.

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04 Apr 2018 15:56 #10 by sirjimmyglass
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: For every Berwick Rangers you've also got a Coventry, Crystal Palace, Birmingham, Burnley and two Sunderlands.


Total cop out and waste of time

A proper development squad is whats needed and Jenkins should fund it like the guy at Fleetwood does.

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever one-minute they're talking about it being a 16-18 north east based Acadamy to mirror the one at BP. Then they're going on about it being somewhere to send the players at the end of their scholarships for a year.

They clearly cant see that all they're doing is getting involved in sham scheme lads who get finish their academy at 18 that the club think might be good enough should join a development squad who would have an arrangement with a non league club to take advantage of dual registration where they will play men's football at the weekend for them and midweek for our development squad as thats the only way to find out if they.ll be good enough.

I just can't understand this fixation with education don't they realise that there are millions of lads out there who.ve had enough of that by the time they get to 16 and just want to concentrate on making a career in football where their skills will find their own level whether its the PL or the Unibond and all forcing them to study does is piss them off.


I'd guess it's something to do with the law.

www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school

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04 Apr 2018 16:21 - 04 Apr 2018 16:24 #11 by NORTHERNSOUL
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sirjimmyglass wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote: For every Berwick Rangers you've also got a Coventry, Crystal Palace, Birmingham, Burnley and two Sunderlands.


Total cop out and waste of time

A proper development squad is whats needed and Jenkins should fund it like the guy at Fleetwood does.

This just doesn't make any sense whatsoever one-minute they're talking about it being a 16-18 north east based Acadamy to mirror the one at BP. Then they're going on about it being somewhere to send the players at the end of their scholarships for a year.

They clearly cant see that all they're doing is getting involved in sham scheme lads who get finish their academy at 18 that the club think might be good enough should join a development squad who would have an arrangement with a non league club to take advantage of dual registration where they will play men's football at the weekend for them and midweek for our development squad as thats the only way to find out if they.ll be good enough.

I just can't understand this fixation with education don't they realise that there are millions of lads out there who.ve had enough of that by the time they get to 16 and just want to concentrate on making a career in football where their skills will find their own level whether its the PL or the Unibond and all forcing them to study does is piss them off.


I'd guess it's something to do with the law.

www.gov.uk/know-when-you-can-leave-school


More Tory Bollocks no doubt so what do they do if you just walk once you reach the dates it mentions? [censored] all i.d imagine as they cant even keep the kids in school who should be in school .

All that does is ensures you have kids hanging around the town centres for two years pulling whatever strokes they need to earn cash to live

And I cant see how if a skilled 16 or 17-year-old rocked up at a non-league club anybody can stop them paying him a couple of hundred a quid a week if they chose to.
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30 Jun 2018 20:07 #12 by seesaw50
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This seems to be what the academy boys are known as ...anybody remember how the partnership with this NE Academy works. Just reading their pre-season fixtures on the website..all NE teams with bizarrely Plymouth Argyle slotted in on Aug 8th..played at the Riverside

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30 Jun 2018 21:01 #13 by CCU
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A link in pretty much name only to me. We still run our own U18 team...

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01 Jul 2018 09:21 #14 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: A link in pretty much name only to me. We still run our own U18 team...


There was an article about this and other similar setups in the FSF magazine a couple of weeks ago [ which I cant find now ] but basically, these educational establishments attract themselves govmt funding by partnering with external bodies like football clubs who they offer a deal to that basically cost the clubs nothing so they get involved on the basis that they have nothing to lose but it showed the limitations of what they're getting involved in and it pointed out that should the scheme discover the next George Best CUFC would have no rights over him whatsoever and it went on to point out that when they start playing have a look at the kits they're playing in as that will give a good idea as to just how arms length they really are.

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01 Jul 2018 13:55 #15 by Jumpforfun
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I think they are a bit of a 2nd chance/last chance saloon for the young lads released by academies or who never got taken on but who have developed later (or still hold delusions of being a pro footballer).

Probably about 1 in 300 might be any good and the others will hopefully get some qualifications of some sort.

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01 Jul 2018 14:59 #16 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Jumpforfun wrote: I think they are a bit of a 2nd chance/last chance saloon for the young lads released by academies or who never got taken on but who have developed later (or still hold delusions of being a pro footballer).

Probably about 1 in 300 might be any good and the others will hopefully get some qualifications of some sort.


But it just doesn't make any sense as a student there they're not going to get paid and will have to do loads of educational stuff that they probably don't want to do.

So why not just offer your services for nothing to a non-league club if you really do have confidence in your abilities.i.d say a much greater chance of working your way up that way rather than playing in a league where everybody is in exactly the same boat as you.

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01 Jul 2018 15:15 #17 by Dancingbear
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It’ll prob be filled by lads who can’t be arsed going and getting a job like the rest of us.

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04 Apr 2019 10:58 #18 by CCU
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The U17’s have won their Division (North Division):



The U19’s are also top of the League (North/Mids Premier Division):

fulltime-league.thefa.com/ProcessPublicS...ctedLeague=889263802

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04 Apr 2019 11:15 #19 by pacirv
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Not sure I understand the purpose of this tie up. Are the club going to get players coming through that will benefit the first team or is it merely a tie up with no benefits.

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04 Apr 2019 22:27 #20 by wano
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maybe its friends with benefits

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04 Apr 2019 22:32 #21 by cufcmike
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pacirv wrote: Not sure I understand the purpose of this tie up. Are the club going to get players coming through that will benefit the first team or is it merely a tie up with no benefits.


I thought we'd benefit from being able to pluck some of the better players for our youth team but a couple have gone to Sunderland so I've no idea.

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06 Apr 2019 19:22 #22 by CCU

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15 Apr 2019 15:53 #24 by thetashkentterror
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Question for your fans thing next time round CCU.
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15 Apr 2019 16:09 - 15 Apr 2019 16:11 #25 by lincolnblue
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"More Tory Bollocks no doubt"

More Labour bollocks. The Education and Skills Act 2008.

Not like NS to get it wrong.
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31 May 2019 12:01 - 31 May 2019 12:01 #26 by CCU
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A successful season...




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31 May 2019 16:34 #27 by Wukkie
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So how many do we get to sign with this partnership. The same number than if we didn't have one with them.

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31 May 2019 16:56 #28 by CCU
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NC explained how it works at CUSG.

Basically the Park View Academy approached the Club for the link. They then purchase all their Kit and Training Gear from us.

We get first dibs on any ‘prospects’ and the lad who went to Sunderland, we said ‘no thanks’ about. If any Player has said no to then went on to a good career, they’d obviously review why they said no etc.

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31 May 2019 18:23 #29 by CCU
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Piece on BBCRC right now about it...

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01 Jun 2019 09:47 #30 by nobbyblue
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I'm not sure we said no regarding that lad that went to Sunderland. He just preferred the Mackems. Tie up or not you can't force them to come to Carlisle!

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09 Jul 2019 13:06 #31 by CCU
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09 Jul 2019 13:06 #32 by CCU
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And another lad on Trial with Burnley:


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09 Jul 2019 13:56 - 09 Jul 2019 13:57 #33 by pigeonpete
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If these players are good enough to go on trial at clubs higher up than us wtf are they not coming here first. What is the point in our club putting our name to this if we are not getting first call????????
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09 Jul 2019 14:10 #34 by CCU
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We do get first call, so we must’ve deemed them not good enough...

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09 Jul 2019 14:45 #35 by pacirv
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Really don't see the point in this connection we don't seem to have benefited in any way from it up to now.

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09 Jul 2019 15:55 #36 by Mush
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CCU wrote: We do get first call, so we must’ve deemed them not good enough...

who the [censored] is looking at them from the club?

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