Keith Curle Best Eleven/Worst Eleven

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10 Jan 2019 20:46 - 10 Jan 2019 20:46 #1 by cufcmike
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There's been a bit of debate spilling into various debates about whether Curle signed good players or not. You could make both a very good team and a very poor team from his signings.

Good team:
Jack Bonham

Gary Liddle
Clint Hill
Tom Parkes

Jamie Devitt
Jason Kennedy
Mike Jones
Nicky Adams

Charlie Wyke
Jabo Ibehre
Derek Asamoah

Poor team:
Raphael Spiegel

Shaun Brisley
Nathan Buddle
Michael Raynes

John O'Sullivan
James Bailey
Samir Nabi
Kevin Wright

Georgi Iliev
Junior Joachim
Luis Pedro

Can anyone do any better? (or worse?)

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CCU kindly compiled a list of all of the signings he made.
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10 Jan 2019 21:07 #2 by nobbyblue
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We got to the play offs with Raynes playing so he couldn't have been that bad!
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10 Jan 2019 21:31 #3 by DeckchairBlue
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We conceded 68 goals that season, hartlepool conceded 75 and were relegated. Don't think anyone could say any of our defenders did well under him.

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10 Jan 2019 21:33 - 10 Jan 2019 21:39 #4 by CottonEyeJoe
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Best XI:

GK: Mark Gillespie

RB: Gary Liddle
CB: Mark Ellis
CB: Clint Hill
LB: Danny Grainger

RM: Jason Kennedy
CM: Mike Jones
CM: Jamie Devitt
LM: Nicky Adams

ST: Charlie Wyke
ST: Jabo Ibehre

Subs:
Derek Asamoah
Kelvin Etuhu
Tom Parkes
Macaulay Gillesphey
Ashley Nadesan

Worst XI:

GK: Raphael Spiegel

RB: Matt Young
CB: Shaun Brisley
CB: Nathan Buddle
LB: Kevin Wright

LM: Junior Joachim
CM: Samir Nabi
CM: Bastien Hery
RM: Kris Twardek
ST: George Waring
ST: Ben Tomlinson

Subs:
Balanta
Rigg
McQueen
Pedro
O'Sullivan
Joyce
Bennett
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10 Jan 2019 21:54 #5 by cufcmike
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CottonEyeJoe wrote: Best XI:

GK: Mark Gillespie

RB: Gary Liddle
CB: Mark Ellis
CB: Clint Hill
LB: Danny Grainger

RM: Jason Kennedy
CM: Mike Jones
CM: Jamie Devitt
LM: Nicky Adams

ST: Charlie Wyke
ST: Jabo Ibehre

Subs:
Derek Asamoah
Kelvin Etuhu
Tom Parkes
Macaulay Gillesphey
Ashley Nadesan

Worst XI:

GK: Raphael Spiegel

RB: Matt Young
CB: Shaun Brisley
CB: Nathan Buddle
LB: Kevin Wright

LM: Junior Joachim
CM: Samir Nabi
CM: Bastien Hery
RM: Kris Twardek
ST: George Waring
ST: Ben Tomlinson

Subs:
Balanta
Rigg
McQueen
Pedro
O'Sullivan
Joyce
Bennett


Grainger and Gillespie aren't Curle signings...

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10 Jan 2019 22:25 #6 by Markovitch
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Jamie Proctor. 4 grand a week and the bloody team didn't score for over a month.

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10 Jan 2019 22:28 #7 by seesaw50
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Nobody mentioning Anthony Griffith

To have been born Cumbrian
is to have won the lottery of life !

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10 Jan 2019 22:42 #8 by munchymagic
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O'Sullivan wasn't as bad as some make out and Rigg helped maintain our league status.
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10 Jan 2019 23:21 #9 by bluebry
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Cant believe nobody has mentioned the mighty 'Cole Stockton'.

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10 Jan 2019 23:56 #10 by cufcmike
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seesaw50 wrote: Nobody mentioning Anthony Griffith


While he wasn't the best he was what we needed at that time to pull us out of the mire and "stop the opposition from playing" as Keith would say...

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11 Jan 2019 00:21 #11 by munchymagic
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Some were saying on the Northampton board that Brisley might be on Curles wish list for defenders.

That one would shock me.

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11 Jan 2019 08:07 #12 by nobbyblue
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cufcmike wrote:

CottonEyeJoe wrote: Best XI:

GK: Mark Gillespie

RB: Gary Liddle
CB: Mark Ellis
CB: Clint Hill
LB: Danny Grainger

RM: Jason Kennedy
CM: Mike Jones
CM: Jamie Devitt
LM: Nicky Adams

ST: Charlie Wyke
ST: Jabo Ibehre

Subs:
Derek Asamoah
Kelvin Etuhu
Tom Parkes
Macaulay Gillesphey
Ashley Nadesan

Worst XI:

GK: Raphael Spiegel

RB: Matt Young
CB: Shaun Brisley
CB: Nathan Buddle
LB: Kevin Wright

LM: Junior Joachim
CM: Samir Nabi
CM: Bastien Hery
RM: Kris Twardek
ST: George Waring
ST: Ben Tomlinson

Subs:
Balanta
Rigg
McQueen
Pedro
O'Sullivan
Joyce
Bennett


Grainger and Gillespie aren't Curle signings...


Grainger was re-signed by Curle.

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11 Jan 2019 08:20 #13 by Markovitch
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You had to have an A-Z of Carlisle to play spot the ball when Brisley tried to play it out of defense. It's a bit harsh to blame Curle for all of the failures. If we are going to sign half a dozen 18-year-olds every 6 months we are going to get 2 Nabis for every Leon Osman. Players like Brisley, Stockton, and Proctor were tracked for months though. To make it worse players like Proctor seem to be well thought of at clubs higher up the ladder which implies that Curle didn't know how to get the best out of them

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11 Jan 2019 08:32 #14 by nobbyblue
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I heard Keith might be coming back.

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11 Jan 2019 09:07 #15 by 182blue
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Yes, when you look at the list of signing, some of the fringe players who only played one or two matches, I would discount.
I don’t really like it, but it seems to be the way of things.
His worst signings, for me are the players that were intended as a more substantial part of the team, but failed.
Proctor (and) gamble didnt work, same with Stockton and Bennett.
Just seems inevitable that this will happen though.
The better signings are the ones that don’t seem as obvious.
The likes of Shaun Milller, Adams, Jones, Devitt, were very much well established players.
Signings that seemed of more dubious virtue or were less obvious , that turned out to do well include Wyke, Jabo, Hope, Parkes, Etuhu and Kennedy.
He let himself down with the likes of Joachim, Thomlinson and Pedro, but this revolving door of these types has been a theme for a long while now.

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11 Jan 2019 09:43 - 11 Jan 2019 09:45 #16 by Kaiser Blue
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Best:

Bonham

Liddle
Ellis
Hill
Parkes

Jones
Joyce

Kennedy
Devitt
Adams

Wyke

Worst:

Speigel

McQueen
Buddle
Meppen-Walter
Wright

O’Sullivan
Nabi
Ward
Pedro

Tomlinson
Joachim
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11 Jan 2019 10:08 #17 by Southernblue
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CottonEyeJoe wrote: Best XI:

GK: Mark Gillespie

RB: Gary Liddle
CB: Mark Ellis
CB: Clint Hill
LB: Danny Grainger

RM: Jason Kennedy
CM: Mike Jones
CM: Jamie Devitt
LM: Nicky Adams

ST: Charlie Wyke
ST: Jabo Ibehre

Subs:
Derek Asamoah
Kelvin Etuhu
Tom Parkes
Macaulay Gillesphey
Ashley Nadesan

Worst XI:

GK: Raphael Spiegel

RB: Matt Young
CB: Shaun Brisley
CB: Nathan Buddle
LB: Kevin Wright

LM: Junior Joachim
CM: Samir Nabi
CM: Bastien Hery
RM: Kris Twardek
ST: George Waring
ST: Ben Tomlinson

Subs:
Balanta
Rigg
McQueen
Pedro
O'Sullivan
Joyce
Bennett


Joe Mckee was a much worse signing than Joyce
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11 Jan 2019 10:29 #18 by sirjimmyglass
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munchymagic wrote: O'Sullivan wasn't as bad as some make out and Rigg helped maintain our league status.


O'Sullivan was absolutely dreadful for the last 6 months of his time here.
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11 Jan 2019 14:54 #19 by Stockportcumbrian
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Will never have a bad word said about Bastien after that run and through ball for Deggsy at Anfield
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11 Jan 2019 15:54 #20 by jakeyblain
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Matt Young is the worst player I've ever seen in a Carlisle shirt

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11 Jan 2019 16:01 - 11 Jan 2019 16:02 #21 by CCU
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Took a lot of thinking, but the worst XI should look something like this IMO...

George,
Young, Buddle, Wright,
Pedro, Ward, Smith, Hooper
Iliev, Waring, Joachim.

Good grief that’s truly horrendous...

Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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11 Jan 2019 16:35 #22 by munchymagic
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CCU wrote: Took a lot of thinking, but the worst XI should look something like this IMO...

George,
Young, Buddle, Wright,
Pedro, Ward, Smith, Hooper
Iliev, Waring, Joachim.

Good grief that’s truly horrendous...


I still would bet that they would put up a better fight than the late Abbott team and Kavanagh teams that we all knew would get humped by at least three goals before they took to the pitch - the worst thing was that they were our starting eleven as well and not like the above cobbled together rubbish, George being the best of the bunch.

Another thing worth noting is that the above squad is made up of short term contracts that will have cost little or loan players, Iliev only played once didn't he at Plymouth on a short term loan.

That Kavanagh team were on a fortune and were rubbish, if Keith hadn't brought in Asamoah then we would probably be non-league now.

Seems a long time ago now but we really were in the clart back then just like Northampton were when Keith took them over and he turned them around to at least take them away from the bottom so if he keeps them safe then he has done his job.

Sheridan however will be an interesting one as can he take Chesterfield clear?

I reckon he will as he will have funds at his disposal to at least gain a few places to make them safe.

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11 Jan 2019 18:30 #23 by Markovitch
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I felt sorry for Shamal. He had several good games and was the first choice for a while. Then the Stevenage game.....
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11 Jan 2019 18:41 #24 by munchymagic
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Markovitch wrote: I felt sorry for Shamal. He had several good games and was the first choice for a while. Then the Stevenage game.....


He wasn't terrible but he was a young player that wouldn't be consistent, and that is to be expected.

I was a bit miffed when he went back and didn't want to extend his loan period as it told me that he was lazy and didn't like the real game and just wanted the comfort of bounce games.

As for the Stevenage game, didn't matter that it was two howlers as we were shit and looked like we would never score so he cost us a point really.

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11 Jan 2019 22:22 #25 by High Street
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Under Curle, the best 11 could easily be the worst 11 the week after.
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