Keith Curle's Troublesome Cog

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11 Jan 2019 11:50 #1 by orfc
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Who was the extra cog that ground Keith's gears? Clibbins? Holdsworth? Someone else?

“They [Jenkins and Nixon] didn’t have the final say on finances,” he said. “With Edinburgh Woollen Mill having a financial interest in the football club, with that they had a say on what money was spent and how.

“I fully understand and respect that. But coming to the end of my tenure there was a realisation there was another cog in the wheel and it was very difficult to get an answer.”


And basically reading that, if the owners of the club don't have final say, are EWM now de facto administrators of the club? As like, administrating an insolvent company? Is there anything else I can type as a question? Who knows?

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11 Jan 2019 12:01 #2 by newcarlislefan
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Another great interview in the N&S. 2 crackers today.
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11 Jan 2019 12:09 #3 by Markovitch
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He certainly talks a very good story, shame the results on the pitch weren't as impressive. Whoever made the decisions had clearly lost faith in Curle's ability to effectively manage the budget and thought someone else could do better, a notion that was proved to be true. Quite possible Jenkins and Nixon were just hiding behind a shadow third party to avoid confrontation and unpleasantness. While it's interesting to hear Keith's views is anyone sad he has gone?

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11 Jan 2019 12:17 #4 by CCU
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Likely John Jackson of EWM being in control of financial matters.

Holdsworth came after Curle had gone, and Curle used to bypass Clibbens and go straight to Jenkins...

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11 Jan 2019 12:25 #5 by Lakelandterrier
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Curle is basically saying that EWM are in charge now.
I think now is the right time for EWM to show their hand and take the reigns officially.
Now is the right time to push the club on and get more investment that we can see and support.

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11 Jan 2019 12:33 #6 by newcarlislefan
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Markovitch wrote: He certainly talks a very good story, shame the results on the pitch weren't as impressive. Whoever made the decisions had clearly lost faith in Curle's ability to effectively manage the budget and thought someone else could do better, a notion that was proved to be true. Quite possible Jenkins and Nixon were just hiding behind a shadow third party to avoid confrontation and unpleasantness. While it's interesting to hear Keith's views is anyone sad he has gone?


My wife is. She was devastated when she saw John Sheridan.
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11 Jan 2019 12:40 #7 by capslockoff
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I have often wondered how our current arrangements sit with the Football League rules on club ownership- it's not clear who is ultimately running the club

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11 Jan 2019 12:44 #8 by howoldboy
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I'm sure John Nixon will have had a quiet word and cleared it with his mates.
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11 Jan 2019 12:56 #9 by Dancingbear
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capslockoff wrote: I have often wondered how our current arrangements sit with the Football League rules on club ownership- it's not clear who is ultimately running the club


The shareholders own the club. I dont think EWM are currently shareholders altough they do have a director on the board. Dont think any league rules will be being breached.

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11 Jan 2019 12:59 #10 by Lakelandterrier
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Markovitch wrote: He certainly talks a very good story, shame the results on the pitch weren't as impressive. Whoever made the decisions had clearly lost faith in Curle's ability to effectively manage the budget and thought someone else could do better, a notion that was proved to be true. Quite possible Jenkins and Nixon were just hiding behind a shadow third party to avoid confrontation and unpleasantness. While it's interesting to hear Keith's views is anyone sad he has gone?


Words from someone in the Nixon camp!

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11 Jan 2019 13:04 #11 by DeckchairBlue
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So basically Curle wasn't happy that his usually tactic of going straight to Jenkins and getting what he wanted had been stumped.

I think it was last week, possibly the week before that Lummy mentioned that when it first came it the EWM money was clearly there to keep the club running, not to be used to increase our footballing budget. Possible that KC wasn't happy with this.

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11 Jan 2019 13:14 - 11 Jan 2019 13:14 #12 by ParcelPete
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Love his Quote"When you're in Carlisle,there's nowhere better to be".
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11 Jan 2019 13:22 #13 by Latrigg blue
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And no traffic jams !!!

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11 Jan 2019 13:41 #14 by sirjimmyglass
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Markovitch wrote: He certainly talks a very good story, shame the results on the pitch weren't as impressive. Whoever made the decisions had clearly lost faith in Curle's ability to effectively manage the budget and thought someone else could do better, a notion that was proved to be true. Quite possible Jenkins and Nixon were just hiding behind a shadow third party to avoid confrontation and unpleasantness. While it's interesting to hear Keith's views is anyone sad he has gone?


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11 Jan 2019 14:19 - 11 Jan 2019 14:20 #15 by Kaiser Blue
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If he ever fancies returning to Carlisle his DIY skills might come in handy at Brunton Park
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11 Jan 2019 15:23 - 11 Jan 2019 15:23 #16 by munchymagic
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"Keith Curle's Troublesome Cog"

Maybe Keith should get himself down to the Sexual Health Clinic asap....
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11 Jan 2019 15:58 #17 by nobbyblue
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There's a new clinic at the Hill Top so somebody was saying.
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11 Jan 2019 17:07 #18 by Markovitch
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Lakelandterrier wrote:

Markovitch wrote: He certainly talks a very good story, shame the results on the pitch weren't as impressive. Whoever made the decisions had clearly lost faith in Curle's ability to effectively manage the budget and thought someone else could do better, a notion that was proved to be true. Quite possible Jenkins and Nixon were just hiding behind a shadow third party to avoid confrontation and unpleasantness. While it's interesting to hear Keith's views is anyone sad he has gone?


Words from someone in the Nixon camp!


? We're in the playoff places, playing great football and with much reduced losses. Me and John are both in favour of that
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11 Jan 2019 17:18 - 11 Jan 2019 17:21 #19 by munchymagic
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nobbyblue wrote: There's a new clinic at the Hill Top so somebody was saying.



Back in the day I had 'work related' dealings with the Sexual Health Clinic and every single person who walked through the door I though to myself 'what have you been up to then' as you cannot help thinking the worst but I was probably judging a normal woman who had just came in to see why she had 'itchy bits' and all that.

I hear that the government have sneaked through cuts amidst the Brexit obsession to cut the Sexual Health Clinics or finish them full stop the crafty gets.
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11 Jan 2019 18:40 #20 by seesaw50
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Latrigg blue wrote: And no traffic jams !!!


Aye they hadn't started the Eastern Way job when curley was here!!

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