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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
AlbertRoss wrote: Hmmm. Perhaps they've been a bit premature, as his record has been less than brilliant; he seems full of passion and good ideas but we haven't been able to grind out enough results when we should have done.
Not that I am as negative about this as some. I don't think we were in any way "nailed on" for promotion when Sheridan left, and I think Pressley has been on a bit of a hiding to nothing, particularly with the loss of the 3 players and hence the tactics that were working. He's had to try to build again at a time when we could have done with more continuity. The January recruitment perhaps unbalanced the squad even more, with the surfeit of midfielders and lack of fit genuine strikers.
Main issues have been small squad, unbalanced squad, and this is down to budgets and also lack of preparation and planning. Compare to the likes of Lincoln and M K Dons. At least settling the manager situation now does facilitate planning for next season.
Despite the issues this season, we have still managed to get some useful players in and it would be good to hold onto some of these, and also perchance to get hold of Nadesan and possibly Yates again.
Not 100% convinced on this appointment, but also not 100% against it, and can understand where they are coming from.
Maybe this is better than spending time looking for someone fresh and then having to start again (again).
There was no need to look for anybody Ian Evvet has nothing to do after next Saturday and still hasn't signed the contract on offer I.ll bet for a couple of grand he could have started on the 6th of May.
Pressley should simply have been told when he came No Promotion No Job then we might have seen how much he really wanted the job like he claims.
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munchymagic wrote:
nobbyblue wrote: He'll be gone by November I would say.
Who would you blame though Nobby - the bloke signing the players or the bloke managing them?
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munchymagic wrote:
Seekaye wrote: The Carlisle players didn’t want to play for Sheridan at Carlisle, never mind Chesterfield
Ridiculous comment pal as the results of both clubs went sky high under his tenure?!?
He has both clubs higher than expected in the league.
Then we employ a bloke who ruins it, nice one.
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munchymagic wrote:
Seekaye wrote: The Carlisle players didn’t want to play for Sheridan at Carlisle, never mind Chesterfield
Ridiculous comment pal as the results of both clubs went sky high under his tenure?!?
He has both clubs higher than expected in the league.
Then we employ a bloke who ruins it, nice one.
I’m not necessarily defending Pressley but very few of the players were sad to see Sheridan go. I recall someone saying when he left that 9 of the starting 11 at his last game were pleased he went. Sounded about right if you were at the Oldham game on boxing day
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franksidebottom wrote: Can’t say Pressley has won me over by any stretch but I’m more than willing to give him a chance when he’s had time to assemble his own squad in the summer, so I’m reasonably happy with the decision.
Interesting he’s been in charge for 15 games (third of a season) and he’s amassed 19pts (equivalent of around 57pts over a season) not great by any stretch but not relegation material either as some have claimed. Sheridan’s first 15 games as manager brought 20pts so there’s not much between their respective records. Sheridan turned it around so what’s to say Pressley won’t?
Continuity and stability are important at football clubs and I think that’s what the club are looking for. The important thing is he’s here for the foreseeable so why not get behind him and give him a chance, it may work out it may not but give him a chance.
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
AlbertRoss wrote: Hmmm. Perhaps they've been a bit premature, as his record has been less than brilliant; he seems full of passion and good ideas but we haven't been able to grind out enough results when we should have done.
Not that I am as negative about this as some. I don't think we were in any way "nailed on" for promotion when Sheridan left, and I think Pressley has been on a bit of a hiding to nothing, particularly with the loss of the 3 players and hence the tactics that were working. He's had to try to build again at a time when we could have done with more continuity. The January recruitment perhaps unbalanced the squad even more, with the surfeit of midfielders and lack of fit genuine strikers.
Main issues have been small squad, unbalanced squad, and this is down to budgets and also lack of preparation and planning. Compare to the likes of Lincoln and M K Dons. At least settling the manager situation now does facilitate planning for next season.
Despite the issues this season, we have still managed to get some useful players in and it would be good to hold onto some of these, and also perchance to get hold of Nadesan and possibly Yates again.
Not 100% convinced on this appointment, but also not 100% against it, and can understand where they are coming from.
Maybe this is better than spending time looking for someone fresh and then having to start again (again).
There was no need to look for anybody Ian Evvet has nothing to do after next Saturday and still hasn't signed the contract on offer I.ll bet for a couple of grand he could have started on the 6th of May.
Pressley should simply have been told when he came No Promotion No Job then we might have seen how much he really wanted the job like he claims.
More bollocks, Barry! Evatt is shite! Failed at Chesterfield... cant do anything with Barrow.
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munchymagic wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Can’t say Pressley has won me over by any stretch but I’m more than willing to give him a chance when he’s had time to assemble his own squad in the summer, so I’m reasonably happy with the decision.
Interesting he’s been in charge for 15 games (third of a season) and he’s amassed 19pts (equivalent of around 57pts over a season) not great by any stretch but not relegation material either as some have claimed. Sheridan’s first 15 games as manager brought 20pts so there’s not much between their respective records. Sheridan turned it around so what’s to say Pressley won’t?
Continuity and stability are important at football clubs and I think that’s what the club are looking for. The important thing is he’s here for the foreseeable so why not get behind him and give him a chance, it may work out it may not but give him a chance.
He has already had a chance though and [censored] it up so far.
I would have loved it but when he took over even I knew automatic promotion was a fantasy but we should already be entrenched in the play-offs and blooding young players and side line players currently as we rest our star players but this bloke has lost too many winnable games.
Who the [censored] employs a manger who gets royally humped from the bottom team in the league when we are going for promotion - oh yes Carlisle United.
I bet Pressley is chortling his arse off tonight getting away with this, Holdsworth will have been involved in this as it is human nature if you are crap at your job to employ someone crapper that you can blame the faults on.
Holdsworth isn't as thick as I once thought.
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
AlbertRoss wrote: Hmmm. Perhaps they've been a bit premature, as his record has been less than brilliant; he seems full of passion and good ideas but we haven't been able to grind out enough results when we should have done.
Not that I am as negative about this as some. I don't think we were in any way "nailed on" for promotion when Sheridan left, and I think Pressley has been on a bit of a hiding to nothing, particularly with the loss of the 3 players and hence the tactics that were working. He's had to try to build again at a time when we could have done with more continuity. The January recruitment perhaps unbalanced the squad even more, with the surfeit of midfielders and lack of fit genuine strikers.
Main issues have been small squad, unbalanced squad, and this is down to budgets and also lack of preparation and planning. Compare to the likes of Lincoln and M K Dons. At least settling the manager situation now does facilitate planning for next season.
Despite the issues this season, we have still managed to get some useful players in and it would be good to hold onto some of these, and also perchance to get hold of Nadesan and possibly Yates again.
Not 100% convinced on this appointment, but also not 100% against it, and can understand where they are coming from.
Maybe this is better than spending time looking for someone fresh and then having to start again (again).
There was no need to look for anybody Ian Evvet has nothing to do after next Saturday and still hasn't signed the contract on offer I.ll bet for a couple of grand he could have started on the 6th of May.
Pressley should simply have been told when he came No Promotion No Job then we might have seen how much he really wanted the job like he claims.
More bollocks, Barry! Evatt is shite! Failed at Chesterfield... cant do anything with Barrow.
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Lakelandterrier wrote:
NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
AlbertRoss wrote: Hmmm. Perhaps they've been a bit premature, as his record has been less than brilliant; he seems full of passion and good ideas but we haven't been able to grind out enough results when we should have done.
Not that I am as negative about this as some. I don't think we were in any way "nailed on" for promotion when Sheridan left, and I think Pressley has been on a bit of a hiding to nothing, particularly with the loss of the 3 players and hence the tactics that were working. He's had to try to build again at a time when we could have done with more continuity. The January recruitment perhaps unbalanced the squad even more, with the surfeit of midfielders and lack of fit genuine strikers.
Main issues have been small squad, unbalanced squad, and this is down to budgets and also lack of preparation and planning. Compare to the likes of Lincoln and M K Dons. At least settling the manager situation now does facilitate planning for next season.
Despite the issues this season, we have still managed to get some useful players in and it would be good to hold onto some of these, and also perchance to get hold of Nadesan and possibly Yates again.
Not 100% convinced on this appointment, but also not 100% against it, and can understand where they are coming from.
Maybe this is better than spending time looking for someone fresh and then having to start again (again).
There was no need to look for anybody Ian Evvet has nothing to do after next Saturday and still hasn't signed the contract on offer I.ll bet for a couple of grand he could have started on the 6th of May.
Pressley should simply have been told when he came No Promotion No Job then we might have seen how much he really wanted the job like he claims.
More bollocks, Barry! Evatt is shite! Failed at Chesterfield... cant do anything with Barrow.
Failed what at Chesterfield exactly ? And funny that the Barrow board have offered him the best contract any manager at that club has ever had.
Three different people I know in the game rate him as do any number of others and its not that long since someone else posted on here exactly the same information that I had.
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newcarlislefan wrote: Pleased with this and a sign that the club has learnt from last year and got to be better than appointing a manager in June.
Gives the club a 6 week head start on last year and it means we're not sniffing out players at the last minute.
Get the squad sorted out early and crack on with the pre-season work, fitness and coaching.
Excellent timing as well.
In arguably the biggest 3 games in 2 years coming up the players now know who the manager is.
This can only be a good thing with such crucial games ahead.
They know he'll be here next year and if they want to be here as well they now know who to impress.
Time and time again you see a side drifting with managerial uncertainty. Really smart timing, in my opinion, getting this out there before the Grimsby game.
The performances against Bury and Lincoln show me that the players are buying into him.
Give Pressley a chance and give him a squad.
Collin, Parkes, Liddle, Grainger, Gerrard, Etuhu, Jones, Devitt, Hope, Gillesphy, McCarron
Add Cullen, Thomas and Scougall to that and that would be an excellent base to build from. Add Yates and Nadesan and you're not a million miles off.
This could, theoretically, all be accomplished in the week or two following the end of the season.
The Devitt situation though, if accurate, is a huge concern.
That goal of the month he scored recently - running on to a ball that was moving away from him and hitting across it - is as good as it gets.
There must only be a handful of players in this division who can do that.
Can't be letting a player of that quality go.
If we're unsure of our division, it doesn't matter. Speak to him. Say we want you to stay.
Here's the Div 2 offer and here's the Div 1 offer. Tell him you'll build a side around him. Make him feel loved and wanted.
What does he give you every year - 10 + goals and the same in assists? How good was it to see him and Nadesan linking up?
Devitt must stay.
There's be no point in getting the managerial side of things sorted out so sensibly and promptly if we weren't able to give him the jewel in the crown.
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Urban Designer wrote: Look what's happened to Man Utd since they made their manager permanent.
I also think the Devitt situation is his choice rather than CUFC's. If we don't go up he will be gone to a league 1 club. I have a feeling Lincoln will sign him. He should be our captain on an improved contract next season if we are looking to progress.
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Urban Designer wrote: Look what's happened to Man Utd since they made their manager permanent.
I also think the Devitt situation is his choice rather than CUFC's. If we don't go up he will be gone to a league 1 club. I have a feeling Lincoln will sign him. He should be our captain on an improved contract next season if we are looking to progress.
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Dancingbear wrote: Isn’t it strange how the people who didn’t want Curle sacked after he ballsed up being top of the league now want Pressley sacked or at least not extended for far less of a collapse. Funny old game isn’t it saint.
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Dancingbear wrote: Isn’t it strange how the people who didn’t want Curle sacked after he ballsed up being top of the league now want Pressley sacked or at least not extended for far less of a collapse. Funny old game isn’t it saint.
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182blue wrote: Wasn't there today but sounded like a real absence of quality in the team.
You can't polish a turd and that is what some of these players seem to be.
Clear out all those who have produced nowt and then he gets his chance to start over again in the summer.
At least he has had a chance to assess the squad and work out what he needs.
There is a fair bet it will go badly and he will be gone by Christmas, but that is on the basis that 95% of managerial appointments end in failure.
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shaldon1 wrote: Looks game set and match for next season also.Really no hope at all for the future.
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munchymagic wrote:
Dancingbear wrote: Isn’t it strange how the people who didn’t want Curle sacked after he ballsed up being top of the league now want Pressley sacked or at least not extended for far less of a collapse. Funny old game isn’t it saint.
Difference is pal is that Curle at least managed the play-offs, we could turn this around but they are not playing well.
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munchymagic wrote:
182blue wrote: Wasn't there today but sounded like a real absence of quality in the team.
You can't polish a turd and that is what some of these players seem to be.
Clear out all those who have produced nowt and then he gets his chance to start over again in the summer.
At least he has had a chance to assess the squad and work out what he needs.
There is a fair bet it will go badly and he will be gone by Christmas, but that is on the basis that 95% of managerial appointments end in failure.
Our last two managerial choices before Pressley unusually did not end in failure, strange really as that is not how Carlisle United roll.
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munchymagic wrote:
182blue wrote: Wasn't there today but sounded like a real absence of quality in the team.
You can't polish a turd and that is what some of these players seem to be.
Clear out all those who have produced nowt and then he gets his chance to start over again in the summer.
At least he has had a chance to assess the squad and work out what he needs.
There is a fair bet it will go badly and he will be gone by Christmas, but that is on the basis that 95% of managerial appointments end in failure.
Our last two managerial choices before Pressley unusually did not end in failure, strange really as that is not how Carlisle United roll.
Curle's remit after keeping us up was to get us promoted, he failed to do that in 3 consecutive seasons, even after issuing a guarantee that we would go up if we finished in the playoffs, which we didn't.
I know you have a man crush on the guy but by the remit he was given his time can't be seen as a success.
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franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
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Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
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Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
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Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
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paddockite wrote:
Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
This is incorrect.
Sheridan left when we were 7th, the Morecambe 2-0 win away took us 7th, then he left. The majority of Sheridans reign saw us bounce between 10th - 15th, the 5 wins on the bounce catapulted us into the play offs.
We were 4th after the 1-0 win at Port Vale, 2 games into Pressleys reign, which was our 8th win in 9.
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munchymagic wrote:
paddockite wrote:
Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
This is incorrect.
Sheridan left when we were 7th, the Morecambe 2-0 win away took us 7th, then he left. The majority of Sheridans reign saw us bounce between 10th - 15th, the 5 wins on the bounce catapulted us into the play offs.
We were 4th after the 1-0 win at Port Vale, 2 games into Pressleys reign, which was our 8th win in 9.
So what you are saying is that Pressley hates successful momentum?
The only way he knows in management is like throwing a marble into water rather than a ball-pit ball that will float to the top, he will never learn and has screwed our season up.
Holdsworth had a hand in it as well as if he is the bloke behind the signings he signed a crock and the manager couldn't get a tune out of the others.
[censored] nice one.
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paddockite wrote:
munchymagic wrote:
paddockite wrote:
Markovitch wrote:
franksidebottom wrote: Sheridan got results - were you saying the same in the autumn when we went 5 home games without scoring, losing the lot? These included losing at home to bottom of the table Grimsby, and other relegation candidates like Yeovil and Morecambe!
16 games in and Pressley and Sheridan have almost identical records, there’s 1 point in it, yet you’re hammering Pressley whilst talking Sheridan up like he was some sort of managerial great.
Because Sheridan learnt from his mistakes Frank. We were crap so he changed things. When he left we were 4th. Now we're not, so it's worse. And there is no sign of a turn around.
Do you watch the games? Did you see the grimsby game?
This is incorrect.
Sheridan left when we were 7th, the Morecambe 2-0 win away took us 7th, then he left. The majority of Sheridans reign saw us bounce between 10th - 15th, the 5 wins on the bounce catapulted us into the play offs.
We were 4th after the 1-0 win at Port Vale, 2 games into Pressleys reign, which was our 8th win in 9.
So what you are saying is that Pressley hates successful momentum?
The only way he knows in management is like throwing a marble into water rather than a ball-pit ball that will float to the top, he will never learn and has screwed our season up.
Holdsworth had a hand in it as well as if he is the bloke behind the signings he signed a crock and the manager couldn't get a tune out of the others.
[censored] nice one.
I was just merely pointing out some facts.
You can continue ranting now.
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