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Water cannons would have shifted them. Dirty mancs! :o
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Quite amusing really, fans still have the power over greedy owners.
  1. 02-05-2021 18:36
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Water cannons would have shifted them. Dirty mancs! :o

I’d use the term Manc’s loosely, there were quite a few there from Carlisle today. It wasn’t a protest it was a riot. It may have been partly down to the super league and the Glazers but there is one simple truth in all of this: United fans simply cannot handle the fact that they cannot compete with their neighbours anymore, they cannot deal with the fact that it is not the 90’s and they are no longer the best. This arrogance has been passed down generations, the same arrogance is the reason why they’re not at Brunton Park because we aren’t successful, the same reason why you see more United and Liverpool shirts on the streets of a Carlisle than Carlisle shirts. They’ve been spoilt and now they can’t handle the fact that they’re not only second in the country but second in their own City. Neville is the biggest hypocrite btw, his Salford side are everything that’s wrong with football.
  1. 02-05-2021 18:38
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Quite amusing really, fans still have the power over greedy owners.


The Glazers won’t give two hoots!
  1. 02-05-2021 18:40
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If a football match is called off because of fans breaking into a stadium and/or trouble on the streets , players can't leave their hotel and the bus would potentially be attacked, it's seriously messed up if people applaud that.
Can the police not control the streets?
It's sad if that's ok.
Very easy for Man U to show displeasure in lots of other ways.
  1. 02-05-2021 18:56
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20 point deduction and it would never happen again.
Fooked up my fantasy football team big style.
  1. 02-05-2021 19:03
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20 point deduction and it would never happen again.
Fooked up my fantasy football team big style.


I was thinking ten point deduction, but wouldn't argue with twenty.

Shows why fans aren't fit to have the majority stake in clubs.
  1. 02-05-2021 20:01
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I thought Souness spoke sense/basically hooligans causing trouble.That protest was misguided at best.The Glazers have spent big, as have the Arabs across the road-nobody complains about that.Man U have always won most trophies because they had the most money.Now others have similar funding, it’s not fair!

The issue, the only issue, is the attack on the pyramid which was appalling.Probably started by the Spanish who are in the shit, then the easily led followed for fear of missing out eg Spurs and Arsenal.
  1. 02-05-2021 20:03
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The Glazers haven’t spent a penny of their own money have they?
  1. 02-05-2021 20:43
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The Glazers haven’t spent a penny of their own money have they?


No they haven’t and they take £75m for themselves every season. :D
  1. 02-05-2021 20:46
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It really is quite simple folks...

Whoever’s name’s above the door, whoever holds the key,
They’ll never own my football club, it belongs to you and me.


:)
  1. 02-05-2021 20:51
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What those numbskull fans don’t realise is the Glazers are wanting £4billion for their shares.

There’ll not be many takers I wouldn’t think. Even Laffy would struggle to come up with that kind of dough! :D
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Saudi’s could buy them in one swoop...
  1. 02-05-2021 20:58
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The club has spent £1bn on players over the last 8 years-not to be sniffed at though the reward on the pitch has been poor.

The Glazers have taken money out but that’s their prerogative I’m afraid.The fact that they have still spent £1bn on players and taken substantial money out for themselves shows you how obscene the amount of money is pissed away in football.

Easy way to sort is hit the clubs with a windfall tax-that will temper their exhuberance.Boris was preparing it to stop the league going ahead
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That’s a bit different to saying the Glazers have spent a billion. You’d be closer saying Ed Woodward had spent a billion. Andrew Jenkins has spent more on Carlisle United than the Glazers have on Man United.
  1. 02-05-2021 23:43
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The idea that the Glazers have spent big when they've taken more out than put in is ridiculous.

It's the same argument that was used by Remainers in the Brexit debate, i.e. that the EU was funding regional development, improving infrastructure and subsidising farmers in the UK, when at the same time the UK was a net contributor.

Sorry to bring up the whole Brexit thing again, but the analogy was too strong to ignore.
  1. 03-05-2021 00:12
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'Saudi’s could buy them in one swoop...'

Maybe in the 1970s they could have, but Saudi wealth is dependant on the oil price and the Saudis seem to prefer to spend it as it comes in, on things like weaponry, rather than invest it for the long term.

And of course the current oil price is depressed.
  1. 03-05-2021 00:18
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Frankly, I don't give a toss how much the owners of Manchester United have spent on their football club or not, it's their choice - they bought it.

Some owners invest in clubs, others don't. No club has the devine right to have a rich sugar daddy pumping billions in. Fans who expect this are deluded, and those who take part in protests like today's are morons, effectively campaigning for more greed.

If they wanted to boycott something, they should boycott Sky, BT and football on TV. That's the most effective protest.
  1. 03-05-2021 00:37
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Spot on Piglet.
  1. 03-05-2021 09:41
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This is worth a read

https://apple.news/AXN78rmKhRR2RzqevUH1AiQ
  1. 03-05-2021 09:49
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Very sad to see, however there was little to no thought given to the implications of announcing the Super League and what is represented. The big Spanish Clubs are in the smelly stuff, they badly needed that revenue.

We have all complained for years about the ridiculous numbers money wise in the Premier League, however then the likes of Garry Neville spouts about how the Premier League is the best in the World, then condemns those who have made it that way.The Premier League like all top sports is high level money laundering.

Glazers are not the issue, they are money Men, the problems were well described by Souness, Man U have won jack-shxt for a decade.

Glazers are well within their rights not to spend another penny, however that won't help the share value. The structure of football needs to change or new Clubs and Leagues for the playboy gazzilionaires to milk.

As for the morons who broke in, well maybe they should have burned the place down.

Change is inevitable, however for it to work means taking everyone with you on that journey.

If football fans own the game, do they also own rugby, boxing, F1 etc, etc, etc.........

Unless you are a masochist, would you buy Man U now ?
  1. 03-05-2021 10:32
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Frankly, I don't give a toss how much the owners of Manchester United have spent on their football club or not, it's their choice - they bought it.

Some owners invest in clubs, others don't. No club has the devine right to have a rich sugar daddy pumping billions in. Fans who expect this are deluded, and those who take part in protests like today's are morons, effectively campaigning for more greed.

If they wanted to boycott something, they should boycott Sky, BT and football on TV. That's the most effective protest.

Their season ticket is the TV remote!
  1. 03-05-2021 10:53
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Frankly, I don't give a toss how much the owners of Manchester United have spent on their football club or not, it's their choice - they bought it.

Some owners invest in clubs, others don't. No club has the devine right to have a rich sugar daddy pumping billions in. Fans who expect this are deluded, and those who take part in protests like today's are morons, effectively campaigning for more greed.

If they wanted to boycott something, they should boycott Sky, BT and football on TV. That's the most effective protest.

Their season ticket is the TV remote!


It's interesting to note. The revenue of the Premier League has gone up in the 2020/21 season with very few, if any fans through the turnstiles. Broadcasting and Commercial/Sponsorship is where the real revenue comes from.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/874020/revenue-of-premier-league-football-clubs-by-stream/
  1. 03-05-2021 11:11
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'Saudi’s could buy them in one swoop...'

Maybe in the 1970s they could have, but Saudi wealth is dependant on the oil price and the Saudis seem to prefer to spend it as it comes in, on things like weaponry, rather than invest it for the long term.

And of course the current oil price is depressed.


The Saudi Royal Family wealth is roughly, depending on what estimate you read, £1 trillion.

Buying Man Utd for £4 billion would be zero problem to them, regardless of the ups and downs in the oil price...
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'Saudi’s could buy them in one swoop...'

Maybe in the 1970s they could have, but Saudi wealth is dependant on the oil price and the Saudis seem to prefer to spend it as it comes in, on things like weaponry, rather than invest it for the long term.

And of course the current oil price is depressed.


The Saudi Royal Family wealth is roughly, depending on what estimate you read, £1 trillion.

Buying Man Utd for £4 billion would be zero problem to them, regardless of the ups and downs in the oil price...

United fans accepting and openly wanting Saudi owners would be extremely hypocritical. Many have tarnished the City owners by saying things such as human rights abusers, blood money, oil money and other racial slurs. However, I would guarantee that if a Middle Eastern consortium were to take over they would bite their hand off. Souness was spot on yesterday, the American owners and Levy need to make a profit due to the mountains of debt there is at these clubs, they were always in it to make money on the side. The Chelsea and City owner have more money than anyone could imagine, they don’t need to make profit and they both are football mad. Glazers didn’t even know the offside rule.
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United fans? Nobody has asked the Paddock if they’d accept Saudi’s!

:D
  1. 03-05-2021 12:40
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United fans? Nobody has asked the Paddock if they’d accept Saudi’s!

:D

Sorry your right, there’s only one United and they play Brunton Park
  1. 03-05-2021 12:45
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The TV revenue is flatlining

I reckon this is high water market for football-the 25 year bull run is over
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Leicester are losing to Newcastle tonight so could blow their top 4 chances and Liverpool are in with a shout of catching them.
They could do with Man U doing them a favour by beating Leicester when they meet on Tuesday.
However Man U will be playing their kids against Leicester as the Man U v Liverpool match will be played 2 day later so they have 4 games in a week.
Man U wont be bothered about losing fo Leicester as they are still likely to comfortably finish 2nd anyhow.
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Leicester are losing to Newcastle tonight so could blow their top 4 chances and Liverpool are in with a shout of catching them.
They could do with Man U doing them a favour by beating Leicester when they meet on Tuesday.
However Man U will be playing their kids against Leicester as the Man U v Liverpool match will be played 2 day later so they have 4 games in a week.
Man U wont be bothered about losing fo Leicester as they are still likely to comfortably finish 2nd anyhow.


Yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  1. 07-05-2021 21:46
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Sorry. It's interesting to me, that Man U fans getting game called off is likely to have effect on outcome of Champions League places.That was what was meant.
It isnt about Carlisle.
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Always found it really odd when someone comes into a Man U Liverpool thread and says they are not interested in it??
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