18/19 FA Cup 1st Rd - Crewe (A) Match Thread

Crewe have made 5 changes from their last game, Shaun Miller one of the 5 to be dropped/rested.

CCU wrote: I’ll guess at:

Collin,
Liddle, Gerrard, Gillesphey, Grainger,
Slater, Jones,
Yates, Devitt, Hope,
Bennett.

Probably that.

But possibly could be someing like:

Is agent Raynes on active duty today? Always good for a goal

We’ve missed a pen already

Grainger has penalty saved

Bloody terrible game by all accounts.

It's crap but hopefully it won't get any worse

Tonyhemmings wrote: Grainger has penalty saved

That's coz of all the loving he has been getting lately;

Is Mark the redfox there screaming his head off about how shite it is?

Tonyhemmings wrote: Grainger has penalty saved

Jesus, I only said yesterday what a record he has from the spot, a penalty is as good as a goal when Grainger’s playing. Whoops!

Oh a "moment of ridiculously poor quality" . .quote from Phillips

Crewe have Carlisle'd it

Good to see the travelling Blue Army vote for today's Man of the Match

We're on our way to Wembley
We're on our way to Wembley
Na-na nah nah, Na-na nah nah

And another last gasp winner....our tide has turned.. Poor game, low gate but a good following from our lot.....kerching ££££36k

Well done lads-we’re going to be rich!!!

Great result, got to be happy with a last minute winner away in the FA Cup!

Happy football fortune day

At least the lecky bill will get paid this quarter....maybe!

I hate that expression-makes it sound as if ordinary fans are so stupid it needs to be put in childspeak-what’s wrong with ‘cup run’ and transfer fee’?

I wonder what phrase we can use for the opposite of ‘football fortune’?

‘It wasn’t me misfortune’?

Would have liked to have been in the sponsors lounge when they awarded the goalie MOM.

I enjoyed that today. Not the highest quality but plenty of chances and were deserved the win and great way to get it.
Devitt and Slater were good. Collin was solid. Gerrard was decent and enjoyed a scrap. Defence generally decent. Bennett hopeless. Great away support again. Happy days.

Have to say I enjoyed the game.
First half generally better than a poor second and just can't beat a last minute winner.
Not much in the game generally. I thought Crewe played some nice stuff and the number 11, Ainley, I think was excellent.
With a bit more precision and luck with their final ball it could have been different. Lots of balls flying across our box all afternoon. Gerrard, as usual, was often in the right place at the right time.
It was good to see Regan Slater have a more effective game and I thought going foward he looked good.
Jamie Devitt, albeit not all the way through the game, shone. Such a classy player with some lovely passing and a couple of decent efforts.
Not having Nadesan there limits some of his passing options to some extent but still played some nice balls through to Hope.
I have to say the 3 centre halves with wing backs was, in my eyes, a bit of a horror show.
Liddle, Gerrard and Gillesphy were very narrow and there was acres and acres between Liddle and Yates at wing back.
In the 1st half we were lucky to get away with as balls were played behind Yates and to the side of Liddle.
Yates looks as comfortable at wing back as Sowerby does at right back but I guess needs must.
I thought generally we had the clearer, better chances and were unlucky not to be ahead. Crewe generally had the better of the 2nd half but I thought we might sneak it.
In a tight game think there was just that little bit of extra quality with us - Gerrard, Devitt, Hope & Grainger all played well and Collin continues playing very solidly - and of course we got the break at the end.
I love to see that passion after something like that and to see Devitt, Gerrard and Grainger fist pumping and screaming "come on" makes it all worthwhile and you can see how much it means to them.
I have to say I jumped and screamed like a loony when the goal went in and was told in no uncertain terms by my daughter that I was "soooo embarassing", but, hey, who cares. All is good in moments like that.
The things that I'll take away from the game is the sadness I feel at how the FA Cup is viewed. I think the crowd was 2500 or so. It's unbelievable really. Such a great competition yet it seems to have been a slow death for years and years now and that's with cut price tickets too.
Secondly, and I usually feel for the near impossible job they have, the referee was poor. For both sides. I thought it was Paul Durkin for a while but I thought a lot of decision for both sides were wrong.
And finally, I know there's been lots about it this week on here, I found the last post and minute's silence a particularly moving experience today.
Not the greatest of games but an enjoyable one and how good to be in the hat again.
COYB

As always a believable account of the game.
What happened with the pen tho...do you think he changed his mind or just didn't connect. After last week's rocket it should have been an easy ask and he doesn't miss many

highlights now up on bbc sport

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46080490

I was trying to think, and couldn't remember, when was the last time we got a totally lucky goal like that?

I remember Lummy scoring one with his backside v Bradford and the quick thinking of Glen Murray to get us a goal ( via Viera) v Halifax but in general we don't do flukey goals.

When was the last one?

newcarlislefan wrote: Have to say I enjoyed the game.
First half generally better than a poor second and just can't beat a last minute winner.
Not much in the game generally. I thought Crewe played some nice stuff and the number 11, Ainley, I think was excellent.
With a bit more precision and luck with their final ball it could have been different. Lots of balls flying across our box all afternoon. Gerrard, as usual, was often in the right place at the right time.
It was good to see Regan Slater have a more effective game and I thought going foward he looked good.
Jamie Devitt, albeit not all the way through the game, shone. Such a classy player with some lovely passing and a couple of decent efforts.
Not having Nadesan there limits some of his passing options to some extent but still played some nice balls through to Hope.
I have to say the 3 centre halves with wing backs was, in my eyes, a bit of a horror show.
Liddle, Gerrard and Gillesphy were very narrow and there was acres and acres between Liddle and Yates at wing back.
In the 1st half we were lucky to get away with as balls were played behind Yates and to the side of Liddle.
Yates looks as comfortable at wing back as Sowerby does at right back but I guess needs must.
I thought generally we had the clearer, better chances and were unlucky not to be ahead. Crewe generally had the better of the 2nd half but I thought we might sneak it.
In a tight game think there was just that little bit of extra quality with us - Gerrard, Devitt, Hope & Grainger all played well and Collin continues playing very solidly - and of course we got the break at the end.
I love to see that passion after something like that and to see Devitt, Gerrard and Grainger fist pumping and screaming "come on" makes it all worthwhile and you can see how much it means to them.
I have to say I jumped and screamed like a loony when the goal went in and was told in no uncertain terms by my daughter that I was "soooo embarassing", but, hey, who cares. All is good in moments like that.
The things that I'll take away from the game is the sadness I feel at how the FA Cup is viewed. I think the crowd was 2500 or so. It's unbelievable really. Such a great competition yet it seems to have been a slow death for years and years now and that's with cut price tickets too.
Secondly, and I usually feel for the near impossible job they have, the referee was poor. For both sides. I thought it was Paul Durkin for a while but I thought a lot of decision for both sides were wrong.
And finally, I know there's been lots about it this week on here, I found the last post and minute's silence a particularly moving experience today.
Not the greatest of games but an enjoyable one and how good to be in the hat again.
COYB

You paint a very different picture than James Philips and Chris Lumsdon on the radio. They said it was one of the worst games they'd ever seen!

Nobby, strictly speaking JP and Lummy said it was the worst game of football they'd seen but despite that it was strangely entertaining as both sides were so bad.

Congrats by the way on having your question to Lummy asked and answered.

nobbyblue wrote:

newcarlislefan wrote: Have to say I enjoyed the game.
First half generally better than a poor second and just can't beat a last minute winner.
Not much in the game generally. I thought Crewe played some nice stuff and the number 11, Ainley, I think was excellent.
With a bit more precision and luck with their final ball it could have been different. Lots of balls flying across our box all afternoon. Gerrard, as usual, was often in the right place at the right time.
It was good to see Regan Slater have a more effective game and I thought going foward he looked good.
Jamie Devitt, albeit not all the way through the game, shone. Such a classy player with some lovely passing and a couple of decent efforts.
Not having Nadesan there limits some of his passing options to some extent but still played some nice balls through to Hope.
I have to say the 3 centre halves with wing backs was, in my eyes, a bit of a horror show.
Liddle, Gerrard and Gillesphy were very narrow and there was acres and acres between Liddle and Yates at wing back.
In the 1st half we were lucky to get away with as balls were played behind Yates and to the side of Liddle.
Yates looks as comfortable at wing back as Sowerby does at right back but I guess needs must.
I thought generally we had the clearer, better chances and were unlucky not to be ahead. Crewe generally had the better of the 2nd half but I thought we might sneak it.
In a tight game think there was just that little bit of extra quality with us - Gerrard, Devitt, Hope & Grainger all played well and Collin continues playing very solidly - and of course we got the break at the end.
I love to see that passion after something like that and to see Devitt, Gerrard and Grainger fist pumping and screaming "come on" makes it all worthwhile and you can see how much it means to them.
I have to say I jumped and screamed like a loony when the goal went in and was told in no uncertain terms by my daughter that I was "soooo embarassing", but, hey, who cares. All is good in moments like that.
The things that I'll take away from the game is the sadness I feel at how the FA Cup is viewed. I think the crowd was 2500 or so. It's unbelievable really. Such a great competition yet it seems to have been a slow death for years and years now and that's with cut price tickets too.
Secondly, and I usually feel for the near impossible job they have, the referee was poor. For both sides. I thought it was Paul Durkin for a while but I thought a lot of decision for both sides were wrong.
And finally, I know there's been lots about it this week on here, I found the last post and minute's silence a particularly moving experience today.
Not the greatest of games but an enjoyable one and how good to be in the hat again.
COYB

You paint a very different picture than James Philips and Chris Lumsdon on the radio. They said it was one of the worst games they'd ever seen!

Crikey, yesterday wasn't great but there's been plenty worse. There was plenty of effort but too many misplaced passes. Worth going though, just for the ridiculous goal and celebrations afterwards.

I thought the same ...Phillips was struggling to keep a commentary going ....then Sheridan spoke post match and wasn't too critical either.

Did you make it to the British Lion NCF ? It was pretty busy a lot of the London Branch in. They only had Ruddles on tap but was a decent pint. I finished in the Cheshire

Bumble wrote: I was trying to think, and couldn't remember, when was the last time we got a totally lucky goal like that?

I remember Lummy scoring one with his backside v Bradford and the quick thinking of Glen Murray to get us a goal ( via Viera) v Halifax but in general we don't do flukey goals.

When was the last one?

Shaun Miller's opener against Fleetwood in the Carabao last season took a healthy deflection to send it looping over the keeper.
(12 sec in).

Nothing else I can think of in recent seasons although they've been some fine own goals over the years such as Harding's wild slice into his own net when we beat Southampton 3-2 back in 2010 ( www.skysports.com/football/carlisle-vs-soton/216176 ).

Yes, I did enjoy it. The football wasn't sparkling too often but we did create some good chances, particularly 1st half. I have to say the 1st 45 was very enjoyable and it was difficult to see how it had ended 0-0.
I think as well that when you are in an away end, with everyone singing, the banter, the swearing, the crack, being close to play and so on it's a different experience to sitting at the back of a big stand commentating.
However I can quite see why JP & Lummy would struggle particularly with the 2nd half as a lot of it was very sloppy and disjointed.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing but with the penalty, as Danny was running up I thought he telegraphed it a bit and looked to be going that way but it did look a decent save.
The difference in having Hope, Grainger & Devitt all back is huge and whenever Hope is out on the right he looks a different player with good end product as with the penalty.
Compare it to the Maccelesfield when all were missing and you see the difference.
Just that extra bit of quality, belief, confidence & ability to play the right ball makes a big difference.
I thought we missed Etuhu as at times playing with the wing backs we looked short of bodies in midfield.
Jerry Yates works so hard and is a threat going forward but I felt we were lucky to get away with the wing back system today as down the flanks we were murdered.
Fortunately the last ball or cross went astray all too often.
Football is funny and we had that run of 5 defeats at home where I felt we didn't get one ounce of luck. Last 2 games it's run for us.
Sheridan deserves credit for trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and so do the players.
Going on a run like that recently is tough and it shows good character to dig out or grind out results when not at your best.
I think the players and staff deserve a lot of credit.
The biggest concern for me is not really now or even January but next pre-season.
It's hard to conjure up a worse pre-season one that the current one but imagine if we lose some or all of Parkes, Hope, Devitt, Grainger, Liddle, Etuhu and Gerrard and Nadesan find pastures new.
Judging by this pre-season and trimming involved there with the current austerity approach you'd imagine it's a very real possibility given some of those players are high earners.
You can see just how much we've struggled this year when injuries to the experienced, quality pros have affected us.
I still think Sheridan has the side punching above its weight given the pre-season, dramatic squad reshuffling and lack of numbers and quality in the squad.
But imagine if the current slash and burn approach continues from the boardroom.
It's been a real balancing act for Sheridan to somehow integrate the younger, on loan lads into the side and the mind boggles if 2, 3 or 4 lads in a starting 11 becomes 5 or 6.
I really hope the board can see this and can see just how high risk the current strategy is. It is what it is regarding finance but I feel this year the club is currently dodging a bullet on the pitch.
You feel it just can't risk more of the same next pre-season.
COYB

Just watched the highlights and didn't realise until the goal that it was Carlisle in the purple strip.

Waltero wrote: Did you make it to the British Lion NCF ? It was pretty busy a lot of the London Branch in. They only had Ruddles on tap but was a decent pint. I finished in the Cheshire

No I didn't. I don't drink when my daughter's with me but I like to go in and see what the pubs are like even with a pint of coke.
She was too cross with me though as we'd shared a train up with some Wrexham fans and so had listened to a good hour of her dad reminiscing about Ninian Park, the Racecourse and that superb Mark Hughes volley against Wales.
So by the time we'd got to Crewe she'd had enough so I promised her no more football chat and that she could go and get a hot dog right away.
Unfortunately she was subjected to a good 2 hours worth of football chat on the way home with a longstanding Carlisle fan so by the time we got home I had to promise there'd be no more footie chat so I had to sit through the end of Strictly.
It was a small price to pay for a great day out.
COYB

Decent game, the best team on the day won. Good amount of travelling support.
And for me Slater was excellent, MOTM performance.

When did Mark Hughes score a volley against Wales NCF?

Yes, you spotted my deliberate mistake! That falling volley for Wales against, Spain, I think. A fantastic goal.
The lads on the train said it's the Wales game where people who weren't there say they were.

Cheers for the heads up on the penalty miss ncf.......just thought of you as am watching the BBC 2 football round-up show and Jabo got some nano seconds on screen in the Guisley v Cambridge game....getting beat 2-0 so he's not among the goals ....yet!

newcarlislefan wrote: Yes, you spotted my deliberate mistake!

Totally forgiven as soon as you post up some Player ratings from the game

OK, here goes

Collin 7
Grainger 7
Liddle 6
Gerrard 8
Gillesphy 7
Yates 6
Slater 7
Devitt 8
Jones 6
Hope 7
Bennett 5