Friday, 20 May 2022
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There's always been a bit of bother when fans invade the pitch but players getting assaulted and abused seems a lot more prevalent this year.

Billy Sharpe getting headbutted, and problems at Port Vale, Northampton and Everton last night.

I always remember the mighty Leeds manager Simon Grayson being vexed that a couple of fans had bumped into Leeds players after that penalty shoot out at BP. :D
1 month ago
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#309138
I bet Harry McKirdy was off sharpish last night! :o
1 month ago
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#309139
Grayson strangely seemed to say we were a shambles of a club because we should have stopped anyone getting on the pitch.
Bit impossible that like unless you have hundreds and hundreds of security/stewards.
The bloke who got jailed for the Sharp incident didnt seem particularly remorseful, more sorry for himself.
I suppose clubs will have to take a harder line on banning fans who enter the pitch. Hard to identify them all but could pick out some at least.
1 month ago
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#309141
End of season pitch invasions have always been a thing but this business of physically attacking opposition players has really taken off this season.

Takes you back to when fences were installed in the 80s pre-Hillsborough.
1 month ago
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#309142
Its got pretty ulgly now and its a shame the ugly side of it is overshadowing moments of joy for many who want to celebrate..Why folk wanna go on the pitch and be horrible to others and in particular players is truly pathetic..

Yet when these play of finals occur...will there be more pitch invasions?
1 month ago
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#309143
It’s only going to cost clubs more on stewarding and policing.

It used to be celebration but these idiots are going on to goad/assault the opposition.

It’s increased massively this season, loads of instances - why?
1 month ago
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#309144


It’s increased massively this season, loads of instances - why?


It's strange isn't it? I've heard some people saying standards of public behaviour have fallen in general post-pandemic. Or that social media interactions with players have made it more personal. Like if you punch someone you can go online and see them talking about how angry/upset they were about it afterwards.

They guy who confronted Vieira was obviously filming it for his own social media to show his mates.

But these things tend to spread from a couple of high profile instances - the demographic that are likely to do it are easily influenced by each other. That Leicester fan who ran on at Forest in the FA Cup earlier in the season set the tone in a way.
1 month ago
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#309145
The post pandemic effect has certainly brought out more stupid [censored] doylems behaving like feral animals, with a feeling of they can do what they like with no consequences..and sod everyone else.

Society has become a shan
Christ we seen the disrespect from some of our own doylems in Bradford ..cant even shut up and respect the silence
1 month ago
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#309146
According to some reports the upturn in crowd trouble and violence is linked partly to cocaine use.
1 month ago
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#309150
According to some reports the upturn in crowd trouble and violence is linked partly to cocaine use.



100% on the money that.

It's everywhere...
I narrowly avoided a punch up with a kid myself (no more than 17-18) in our local pub recently...him and his little clan of pals were doing 'Noahs Ark' into the bogs every 10 minutes...his eyes were bright red and he was strutting about like he owned the place, absolute confidence despite being about 10st wet through.
He almost knocked my pint over so I just tapped him on the shoulder and said "easy mate, your nearly knocking my beer over" The response was 0-Nutter in a split second...offering me outside and raging incoherently.

I'm guessing many of the similar types at Football grounds are doing the same only the eye of their rage is an opposition player not the lad stood next to them at a pub bar.
Until they get a grip of drug use in some way these things are going to get worse..that laddo in the bar wouldn't have thought twice of stabbing me had he been carrying...watch the news and it's all over the place where some coked up pillock has blocked or knifed someone unprovoked and randomly...the way these lot go on on the pitch looks very familiar.
1 month ago
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#309151
I used to spray the toilet cisterns with WD40 when I worked in a pub and suspected someone of using coke. Then watch the furious reaction when they came back out the loo having seen it melt away in front of their eyes.
1 month ago
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#309153
Seen a few bars & clubs in Liverpool coat the top of the cisterns with a thick layer of Vaseline too :D
1 month ago
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#309159
Wasn't the start of the current trend when Grealish was attacked by a Birmingham fan before the pandemic?
1 month ago
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#309163
I also think players have a responsibility not to have incite fans.

Reference McKirdy.

"Swindon forward Harry McKirdy said on Instagram: "I'll take the stick and the songs. But bottles, coins, lighters thrown [at] me, running on and hitting and kicking me/team-mates. Too far."

You can't complain if you intentionally goad opposition supporters, I'd make it a red card offence.
1 month ago
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#309168
After the national embarrassment that was the Euro final last summer, the government/FA should have immediately pulled the plug on the world cup bid. By making excuses and proceeding regardless - in what must be a lost cause - they sent out the message that the scenes weren't that bad.

The other thing that is annoying me is that it keeps getting described as passion. Piss off. I've witnessed moments with Carlisle that have made me utterly lose it and I haven't once jumped on the pitch as a result!!

If I can stay in my spot after Scott Dobie has fired a 90th minute winner past Chester, after we were down to 9 men, then anyone can!!
1 month ago
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#309175
I've been on the pitch a few times, mostly just to celebrate.

It's the intent that matters, isn't it?

I don't see an issue with exuberant celebrations, but there is a problem with a few tit-ends spoiling it for everybody.
1 month ago
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#309186
There is no excuse for anyone to attack someone because of a bit of goading .

Although another problem is stewarding, it's getting harder to find stewards which means that they often lack the experience to deal with crowds and control them .
1 month ago
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#309187
If I can stay in my spot after Scott Dobie has fired a 90th minute winner past Chester, after we were down to 9 men, then anyone can!!


Must’ve been the only one! :p
1 month ago
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#309196
There is no excuse for anyone to attack someone because of a bit of goading.



As a player, you understand full well what you're doing if you run up to opposition fans and try and provoke them. You're asking for a reaction and you shouldn't be surprised or act all high and mighty when you get precisely what you ask for.

Do you condemn Patrick Vieira's response to the Scouse scroat who goaded him on the pitch last night, Happy? It's the same thing in reverse.

In all honesty, I completely condone Vieira's response. It takes two to tango.
1 month ago
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#309197
If I can stay in my spot after Scott Dobie has fired a 90th minute winner past Chester, after we were down to 9 men, then anyone can!!


Must’ve been the only one! :p


Didn't you more or less have a picnic on the halfway line at Glanford Park in 94?
1 month ago
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#309204
There is no excuse for anyone to attack someone because of a bit of goading .

Although another problem is stewarding, it's getting harder to find stewards which means that they often lack the experience to deal with crowds and control them .



Are you sure ?

Remember Zidane putting his head in the chest of the player insulting his mother, personally I would have kicked him squarely in the bxxxxks !

Surely everyone has a line ?

Time for everyone to take and accept responsibility for there actions.
1 month ago
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#309242
The Forest "fan" who nutted Billy Sharp was not a regular attender. Glory seeker and yes a coke head
1 month ago
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#309244
Vieira deserves all he's going to get over his assault, fully caught on camera, there surely can be no denying the sh!t hit the fan. :o
1 month ago
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#309245
The Forest "fan" who nutted Billy Sharp was not a regular attender. Glory seeker and yes a coke head


He was a ST Holder according to the reports:
1 month ago
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#309246
Vieira deserves all he's going to get over his assault, fully caught on camera, there surely can be no denying the sh!t hit the fan. :o


Vieira deserves to be safe at his place of work and not be abused by an out of control yob.
1 month ago
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#309247
If Viera overstepped the mark with his kick out, only just, I would say.
A very mild misdemeanor in the context of what happened.
No real case to answer.
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