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  3. 10-06-2021 19:14
Just wondering what people think. Is that an acceptable way to speak to others, or should it be against the forum rules? I personally think it's a rather vile thing to say.
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One of my pet hates is being told I have an agenda.

This was a few years ago when I started querying what was happening at the club, yet no one could tell me what the agenda was.

They are right though, I just want a club to be proud of, not one happy being mediocre where certain directors/owners are happy with that.

I’ve had wind up merchant, again wrong! I just disagree with what you say.
  1. 10-06-2021 19:18
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One of my pet hates is being told I have an agenda.

This was a few years ago when I started querying what was happening at the club, yet no one could tell me what the agenda was.


Same here. People are calling me a troll and saying I have an agenda but nobody can tell me what this "agenda" supposedly is. All I want is a successful club, and criticism is a part of that. I don't just criticize (even though it may seem like it at times!) and I believe in giving credit where its due. For example I acknowledge Nigel is generally very good at responding to questions, which whether we like the answers or not does go some way in helping the fan engagement process and making people feel involved.

If wanting to help the club and see it become successful counts as an agenda, then yes I have an agenda.
  1. 10-06-2021 19:24
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Right then Kes - first question....

Do you have it in for goats who have the family name of “Gruff”?
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As you don't have a problem calling folk liars without actual proof so unfortunately you have left the door open for folk to do that .
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Right then Kes - first question....

Do you have it in for goats who have the family name of “Gruff”?


Careful.
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As you don't have a problem calling folk liars without actual proof so unfortunately you have left the door open for folk to do that .


i explained about the impossibility of having proof the other day, Bob. The alternative in these circumstances is to say nothing in dubious circumstances when, actually, it is healthy to hold the evidence up to scrutiny and people to account. It happens all the time in Courts of Law, the House of Commons etc so why not here.
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Griff it's about Kessler , they could use another way of wording it but no he/she didn't so they then can't complain when others treat them the same way.
Tbh I don't know if they are what they are suggesting or actually unaware of what they are saying. I don't know what's more unsettling tbh
  1. 10-06-2021 21:40
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Kessler’s approach is a bit more blunt than mine, that’s true. Its apparent that he mods here have got their heads together and agreed a policy that CCU is the outward-facing voice of the board, and that all references to Barrygate will not be commented upon, another way in which truth is devalued here - debate is impossible. But is that a reason to simply let it go, because truth is more important than that? It’s like listening to everything Dominic Cummings says and believing it all because sorting the fact from the fiction is too difficult.
  1. 10-06-2021 21:51
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It’s OK to call them a nob if you think they’re a nob.
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Griff it's about Kessler , they could use another way of wording it but no he/she didn't so they then can't complain when others treat them the same way.


It's not the same though. I know that the mods deleted Barry and his posts, so I'm simply stating something which is true. Whereas when people call me a troll, that's actually a falsehood/lie because I am not a troll. You can't compare fact and fiction in that way and suggest they are the same.
  1. 10-06-2021 22:26
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Kess your a troll. Hope that helps.
  1. 10-06-2021 22:25
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and that all references to Barrygate will not be commented upon


Then maybe we should keep mentioning it until they do comment :D
  1. 10-06-2021 22:45
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You are comparing it Kessler , as you think it happened but can't prove it that's opinion not fact . You are however a keyboard warrior who spouts negativety and has a go at folk for whatever reason you feel at the time including a certain successful businessman who you imply knows less than you.
I don't know if you are a Troll tbh as I doubt you live under a bridge !!
  1. 10-06-2021 23:28
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You are comparing it Kessler , as you think it happened but can't prove it that's opinion not fact .


No, it's a fact. The mods did delete Barry and his posts.

You are however a keyboard warrior who spouts negativety and has a go at folk for whatever reason you feel at the time including a certain successful businessman who you imply knows less than you.


I disagree. I'm not having a go at Laffy and I don't really think it's a case of knowing more/less. There will be some areas of finance where Laffy is more knowledgeable, and some he's not. For example I will be the first to admit he knows more about active investing than I do, because that's an area I've not really got any experience in.
  1. 10-06-2021 23:43
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Is it OK to call some threads 'dull' when you dislike them?
  1. 11-06-2021 00:20
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You can't show they did. And in the real world without proof not guilty .
  1. 11-06-2021 01:43
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This is the going round in circles post


[censored] my life...hoped to read some decent posts on my night shifts but alas its the kessler show .
  1. 11-06-2021 06:45
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I sold something on eBay this week to someone named A. Troll
  1. 11-06-2021 08:01
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Narcissist, definitely.
  1. 11-06-2021 08:21
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You are however a keyboard warrior who spouts negativety and has a go at folk for whatever reason you feel at the time including a certain successful businessman who you imply knows less than you.


I disagree. I'm not having a go at Laffy and I don't really think it's a case of knowing more/less. There will be some areas of finance where Laffy is more knowledgeable, and some he's not. For example I will be the first to admit he knows more about active investing than I do, because that's an area I've not really got any experience in.

You just go droning on and on that’s why folk are pissed off with you.

Name these areas of finance you claim to be more knowledgeable.

If it’s Bitcoin excuse me I’ll laugh and wish you well in your imaginary £100 investment race with Laffy as to my knowledge there’s no proof of this investment actually been made.
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Kessler, you just keep on digging don't you? I used to read the boards everyday but, when sooo many threads are hijacked by you with the same constant bleatings, it's almost pointless bothering. As usual, you know what everybody else should do but do nothing yourself, time and time again using the same old boring, boring excuses.You feel you have a right to complain but how much do you actually put through the turnstiles in a season? or do you just take the clubs "shilling"? If I could identify a thread that you'd contributed to/hijacked, I'd not bother opening it. I suppose if I picked only the threads that are directly football related I may find a Kessler free zone, maybe.....you do seem to leave those alone, sometimes... are you a troll? no idea? but you are definitely one tedious, boring [censored]**! You're actually lacking in manners too, it's nobody's business how much any boarder has in the bank and I doubt very much you could teach Laffy anything about finance. Please, please, take a break from here for the sake of your own mental health as much as ours.
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Kes - I did not call you a troll because I disagree with you. I called you a troll because you are a troll, as well as some of the other labels people above have given you.
Hope this helps.
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Name these areas of finance you claim to be more knowledgeable.


I'm possibly more knowledgeable than him in the areas of passive investing, American markets, and crypto markets. But that is neither a compliment or criticism to him, just an acknowledgement that we have different areas of interest. Laffy knows more than me about active investing, UK markets, and the energy sector.

I suppose if I picked only the threads that are directly football related I may find a Kessler free zone, maybe.....you do seem to leave those alone, sometimes... are you a troll? no idea?


I'm not a troll, and I'm sick of people suggesting otherwise. I don't mind a bit of banter or lively debate, but it's simply unacceptable to post outright lies and falsehoods about other users when you've repeatedly been asked not to. The forum rules prohibit posting anything libellous or defamatory. There is no excuse for it.
  1. 11-06-2021 10:23
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"I think that calling someone "troll" is an utterly vile, disgusting thing to say. Would you like people calling you that? If not, then don't do it to others. Treat other people how you would like them to treat you, that's my motto." :D :D :D :D


That is exactly what is happening..........
  1. 11-06-2021 10:22
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...Please, please, take a break from here for the sake of your own mental health as much as ours....


This!
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Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll

https://youtu.be/On0IImHTTNY
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I suppose if I picked only the threads that are directly football related I may find a Kessler free zone, maybe.....you do seem to leave those alone, sometimes... are you a troll? no idea?


I'm not a troll, and I'm sick of people suggesting otherwise. I don't mind a bit of banter or lively debate, but it's simply unacceptable to post outright lies and falsehoods about other users when you've repeatedly been asked not to. The forum rules prohibit posting anything libellous or defamatory. There is no excuse for it.




please show me where i've posted "outright lies and falsehoods about another user" Please show me where in the thread I've called you a Troll. I have asked the question, and said that I don't know if you are or not. I suggested that you are a tedious [censored]**** and I stand by that

I don't think Ive ever seen you post anything that could be described as "Banter", EVER! you're far too serious for your own good, and then get all whiney when people tell you to give it a rest. There are plenty on here telling you this, we can't all be wrong! Try looking on the bright side of things.....you might enjoy it!!
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Just wondering what people think. Is that an acceptable way to speak to others, or should it be against the forum rules? I personally think it's a rather vile thing to say.


It isn't the best thing to call someone but there's a lot worse too. You do tend to get people's backs up though.
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please show me where i've posted "outright lies and falsehoods about another user"


I was referring to the people who have called me troll, not you specifically.
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I would say wind-up merchant rather than troll, but a world class one.

Imagine you’ve just sold your company for £40 million but instead of driving around on a golden hovercraft drinking champers you’re instead getting triggered by person X pretending to be piglet pretending to be clibbens pretending to be a steward.

Bravo
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Did you not forget Randomwinner in that last sentence?
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I would say wind-up merchant rather than troll, but a world class one.

Imagine you’ve just sold your company for £40 million but instead of driving around on a golden hovercraft drinking champers you’re instead getting triggered by person X pretending to be piglet pretending to be clibbens pretending to be a steward.

Bravo


If it is a wind-up then it is one of the worst ever.

If some poor sod has been devoting a hefty part of their existence pretending to be a steward over a couple of years on here then that would just be weird, the length of time makes it not possible to pass of as 'I had you all there' and would be the work of a genuine loon.
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