Long live the conductors! I'm on your side CCU.


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Wonders never cease when i'm agreeing with you Mouldy!

So Silentone, you'd rather have no guards on say a train from Carlisle to Newcastle? it just beggars belief.

That train is notorious for bad behaviour, what happens if a sexual assault occurs (it happens), fayre dodgers, drunks and people needing assistance. I'm just curious what would happen in those circumstances?

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Wonders never cease when i'm agreeing with you Mouldy!

So Silentone, you'd rather have no guards on say a train from Carlisle to Newcastle? it just beggars belief.

That train is notorious for bad behaviour, what happens if a sexual assault occurs (it happens), fayre dodgers, drunks and people needing assistance. I'm just curious what would happen in those circumstances?

In the event of a major accident the driver is quite often incapacitated (or worse) therefore the Conductor has then sole responsibility for the train and passengers, can you imagine the carnage if they weren't onboard in such occasions!

Totally required for public safety, someone close to me has recently completed the training, unbelievable what they need to know and what they are responsible and accountable for!!

When a Northern train came within 150 yds of 200 tones of masonry blocking the line just outside Lime Street two weeks ago it was the guard who stopped the train by activating the emergency braking system as he had nothing else to focus on The driver has i would imagine many things going thru his mind when he sees the obstruction on the line in front of him and i wouldnt mind betting a lot of them simply freeze whereas if a guard who doesnt get to see whats coming gets an alert that says press the emergency stop he.ll do it in the quickest time possible.

Guards are given 2 weeks safety training with regular statutory updates. The role the government is pressing the train companies to introduce requires just half a day if you cant see that thats a reduction in the safety of a train in an incident your thicker than you purport to be bit i dont think you are for a minute and this is just another of your regular anti union rants.

It may of passed your attention this morning but very interesting development is the recording one of the union negotiators made in a meeting with the head of HR at Northern in which he made no secret of the fact that this isnt a fight that Northern want at all but one that they are being made to fight as the repayment for their bid winning the last franchise auction.

If they got themselves sorted out all train drivers should just refuse to move any train on which there isnt a fully trained guard and the whole thing would be put to bed once and for all and big up the scouser drivers who today scuttled Merseyrails plan to run a scab service by refusing to cross a the guards picket lines.

While I think there's some justification for the RMT's argument recommendation guards on Northern, I disagree re Merseyrail* - which is more like a metro network than national rail.

* I admittedly have a slight vested interest on this!

So on the unmanned stations at the extremes of the Merseyrail network youre happy that the whole arrival loading and dispatching is carried out solely by the train driver in addition to his actual train driving duties then are you ?

If they can design ship and planes to carry cars and lorries, surely it can't be beyond a decent engineer designing wheelchair access built into trains.

In the event of a major accident the driver is quite often incapacitated (or worse) therefore the Conductor has then sole responsibility for the train and passengers, can you imagine the carnage if they weren't onboard in such occasions!

Totally required for public safety, someone close to me has recently completed the training, unbelievable what they need to know and what they are responsible and accountable for!!

When a Northern train came within 150 yds of 200 tones of masonry blocking the line just outside Lime Street two weeks ago it was the guard who stopped the train by activating the emergency braking system as he had nothing else to focus on The driver has i would imagine many things going thru his mind when he sees the obstruction on the line in front of him and i wouldnt mind betting a lot of them simply freeze whereas if a guard who doesnt get to see whats coming gets an alert that says press the emergency stop he.ll do it in the quickest time possible.

Guards are given 2 weeks safety training with regular statutory updates. The role the government is pressing the train companies to introduce requires just half a day if you cant see that thats a reduction in the safety of a train in an incident your thicker than you purport to be bit i dont think you are for a minute and this is just another of your regular anti union rants.

It may of passed your attention this morning but very interesting development is the recording one of the union negotiators made in a meeting with the head of HR at Northern in which he made no secret of the fact that this isnt a fight that Northern want at all but one that they are being made to fight as the repayment for their bid winning the last franchise auction.

If they got themselves sorted out all train drivers should just refuse to move any train on which there isnt a fully trained guard and the whole thing would be put to bed once and for all and big up the scouser drivers who today scuttled Merseyrails plan to run a scab service by refusing to cross a the guards picket lines.

All trains were stopped in the Lime Street incident by the overhead lines tripping out. At no point did any guard stop the train.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/partial-collapse-of-a-wall-onto-open-railway-lines-liverpool

While I think there's some justification for the RMT's argument recommendation guards on Northern, I disagree re Merseyrail* - which is more like a metro network than national rail.

* I admittedly have a slight vested interest on this!

So on the unmanned stations at the extremes of the Merseyrail network youre happy that the whole arrival loading and dispatching is carried out solely by the train driver in addition to his actual train driving duties then are you ?

Every station on the Merseyrail network is staffed, first train to last.

It's done on the Underground and Newcastle Metro, which are comparable networks. Like I've said above (and linked in with High Street's point re: secitons of it's network), I agree on Northern trains that DOO maybe isn't the best option.

Incorrect there are a number of unstaffed stations on the Merseyrail network Cappenhurst, Bache, Little Sutton and Overpool are examples

While I think there's some justification for the RMT's argument recommendation guards on Northern, I disagree re Merseyrail* - which is more like a metro network than national rail.

* I admittedly have a slight vested interest on this!

So on the unmanned stations at the extremes of the Merseyrail network youre happy that the whole arrival loading and dispatching is carried out solely by the train driver in addition to his actual train driving duties then are you ?

Every station on the Merseyrail network is staffed, first train to last.

It's done on the Underground and Newcastle Metro, which are comparable networks. Like I've said above (and linked in with High Street's point re: secitons of it's network), I agree on Northern trains that DOO maybe isn't the best option.

Incorrect there are a number of unstaffed stations on the Merseyrail network Cappenhurst, Bache, Little Sutton and Overpool are examples

Exactly what I was thinking.

Just out of interest.

if you travel on any train in the South there is usually a trolly dolly selling drinks, sarnies etc.

How come we don't get this service on the West Coast Main Line ?

Speaking of MerseyRail, good to hear Guard Martin Zee found Not Guilty today. Case should never have been brought...

https://twitter.com/livechonews/status/842342665974894593

Just out of interest.

if you travel on any train in the South there is usually a trolly dolly selling drinks, sarnies etc.

How come we don't get this service on the West Coast Main Line ?

Absolute horseshit.

Just out of interest.

if you travel on any train in the South there is usually a trolly dolly selling drinks, sarnies etc.

How come we don't get this service on the West Coast Main Line ?

Absolute horseshit.

What, the sarnies, trolly dolly or the drinks ?

never on the 6.49 Carlisle - London or the 3.30pm London - Carlisle

Because these muppets are at it again, looking for a few more holidays....................

The RMT union has announced another 24-hour strike on Southern rail for Tuesday 4 April, in a row over the role of conductors.

RMT union post strike dates for night tube drivers

Are there any reasonable human beings left that support these bruisers ?

If you can afford to strike as often as these idiots, you get paid far to much, no wonder our tickets are so expensive.

Because these muppets are at it again, looking for a few more holidays....................

The RMT union has announced another 24-hour strike on Southern rail for Tuesday 4 April, in a row over the role of conductors.

RMT union post strike dates for night tube drivers

Are there any reasonable human beings left that support these bruisers ?

If you can afford to strike as often as these idiots, you get paid far to much, no wonder our tickets are so expensive.

You know they don't get paid when they're on strike? Hardly a holiday you clown.