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22 May 2025 10:06 #1 by CCU
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Was provisionally arranged for May 31st after the 15/16 Accounts were released in early April. Was this confirmed does anybody know?

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22 May 2025 11:01 #2 by seesaw50
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You had an oracle failure CCU?

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30 May 2025 15:07 - 30 May 2025 15:07 #3 by CCU
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Did any shareholder get notice or was it knocked on the head?
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30 May 2025 15:26 #4 by Zenon
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CCU wrote: Did any shareholder get notice or was it knocked on the head?


Notice given on 24 April, AGM 7pm on 31 May in Foxy's.

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30 May 2025 15:56 #5 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Did any shareholder get notice or was it knocked on the head?


Notice given on 24 April, AGM 7pm on 31 May in Foxy's.


Yes but nothing since and i believe it did say something like "subject to confirmation" didnt it ?

CUOSC didnt mention it in their briefing at the weekend either
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30 May 2025 16:25 #6 by Zenon
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Formal notice given to shareholders, nothing about provisional.

No notice of any change given to shareholders since 24 April, therefore its on.

If I knew how to post a picture, i could let you have a copy of the formal notice.

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30 May 2025 16:46 #7 by CCU
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Cheers for confirmation Zenon!
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31 May 2025 14:02 #8 by whytakemypostcode
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News and Star refused permission to attend. Anything to hide lads?

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31 May 2025 14:27 #9 by Lakelandterrier
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whytakemypostcode wrote: News and Star refused permission to attend. Anything to hide lads?


Would be nice if a concerned member at the AGM who is on the supporters side could relay information to us??

Clearly the club are wanting to hide info from News & Star so we can't read about it.

CUOSC - FOR GOD'S SAKE REPRESENT YOUR CLUB SUPPORTERS! THE WAY THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE CLUB ARE TREATED IS DISGRACEFUL. YOU HAVE THE CHANCE INSIDE TO TELL THE FANS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WHY DO YOU CHOOSE TO RENAGE ON WHY THE TRUST WAS SET UP FOR?
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31 May 2025 15:03 #10 by CCU
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whytakemypostcode wrote: News and Star refused permission to attend. Anything to hide lads?


Club are perfectly entitled as the AGM is for Shareholders only...
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31 May 2025 15:23 #11 by Lakelandterrier
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Press have been allowed to attend in the past. It's totally obvious they are wanting to hide or delay something.
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31 May 2025 15:24 - 31 May 2025 15:24 #12 by Lakelandterrier
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Any member of CUOSC will be allowed to attend then considering they are the second biggest shareholder the Club.
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31 May 2025 15:48 #13 by Zenon
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whytakemypostcode wrote: News and Star refused permission to attend. Anything to hide lads?


The closing date for a shareholder unable to attend to appoint a proxy was 7pm on Monday, so that route is closed for the N&S;

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31 May 2025 16:29 #14 by bluestblue
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Lakelandterrier wrote: Press have been allowed to attend in the past. It's totally obvious they are wanting to hide or delay something.
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I may be wrong, but I don't recall any press attending, certainly in the last 6 or 7 years

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31 May 2025 16:44 #15 by CCU
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Lakelandterrier wrote: Press have been allowed to attend in the past. It's totally obvious they are wanting to hide or delay something.
Worst owners in the History of the club.


I may be wrong, but I don't recall any press attending, certainly in the last 6 or 7 years


I've been as a Proxy a couple of times, Press weren't in those times...
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31 May 2025 16:46 #16 by munchymagic
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Lakelandterrier wrote: Press have been allowed to attend in the past. It's totally obvious they are wanting to hide or delay something.
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I may be wrong, but I don't recall any press attending, certainly in the last 6 or 7 years


Any reporter worth anything will sniff blood and possibly an exclusive story out of this.

The deck of cards is falling.

Nixon at Wembley was probably his last hurrah.

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31 May 2025 18:59 - 31 May 2025 19:12 #17 by CCU
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Club are tweeting from the AGM...

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31 May 2025 19:56 - 31 May 2025 20:05 #18 by CCU
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The Questions from the floor are unbelievable. Sat here shaking my head! First one, access to the kids zone...

Catering, CheckATrade and some football ones to Curle followed.

AGM done in 54mins!
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31 May 2025 20:11 #19 by Dancingbear
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Nice of the trust rep to say we should all now support the checkatrade trophy. And pleasedont anyone come on and say thats not what he meant.
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31 May 2025 20:14 #20 by Laffy
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Sounds like a blast!

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31 May 2025 20:23 #21 by Mullen103
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Dancingbear wrote: Nice of the trust rep to say we should all now support the checkatrade trophy. And pleasedont anyone come on and say thats not what he meant.


I was going to rant but I've gave up worrying!
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31 May 2025 22:22 #22 by seesaw50
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CCU wrote: The Questions from the floor are unbelievable. Sat here shaking my head! First one, access to the kids zone...

Catering, CheckATrade and some football ones to Curle followed.

AGM done in 54mins!


Sounds more like another fans forum ....did these questions come under Any Other Business or what .
What was the Agenda format CCU or was it a free for all

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31 May 2025 22:44 #23 by NORTHERNSOUL
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whytakemypostcode wrote: News and Star refused permission to attend. Anything to hide lads?


Club are perfectly entitled as the AGM is for Shareholders only...


Youd of thought that at some point in recent history the ENS would have bought the odd share so as the club couldn't stop them attending
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31 May 2025 22:47 #24 by whytakemypostcode
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CCU wrote: The Questions from the floor are unbelievable. Sat here shaking my head! First one, access to the kids zone...

Catering, CheckATrade and some football ones to Curle followed.

AGM done in 54mins!


What a total bunch of amateurs. What about an agenda with structure and purpose! Our AGM at our local badminton club puts CUFC to shame...
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31 May 2025 23:11 #25 by CCU
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CCU wrote: The Questions from the floor are unbelievable. Sat here shaking my head! First one, access to the kids zone...

Catering, CheckATrade and some football ones to Curle followed.

AGM done in 54mins!


Sounds more like another fans forum ....did these questions come under Any Other Business or what .
What was the Agenda format CCU or was it a free for all


Not sure Seesaw, just got that from Club Twitter...
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31 May 2025 23:54 #26 by Zebby
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whytakemypostcode wrote:

CCU wrote: The Questions from the floor are unbelievable. Sat here shaking my head! First one, access to the kids zone...

Catering, CheckATrade and some football ones to Curle followed.

AGM done in 54mins!


What a total bunch of amateurs. What about an agenda with structure and purpose! Our AGM at our local badminton club puts CUFC to shame...


Will have been more cocks at the cufc one though
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01 Jun 2025 00:51 #27 by Urban Designer
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If we can only spend 55% of 5m plus on players wages where the hell is the other 45% going? Don't tell me concrete terraces are costly to maintain with people jumping on them twice a fortnight! Old boys club who would be tadpoles elsewhere! I have never said anything against the Trust before but what exactly is the point of your existence?

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01 Jun 2025 08:13 #28 by DeckchairBlue
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Possibly all of the other general expenses of running a business ?

Non playing staff wages, heating, electricity, water, insurances, business rates, cost of sales etc.

There's a lot more to pay than just playing staff wages.

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01 Jun 2025 08:28 #29 by whytakemypostcode
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Deano, the club has massive issues and appears to be heading high speed towards a train crash, yet an AGM is wrapped up in 54mins with everyone including CUOSC appearing to bury their heads in the sand!!!!

Any chance as official CUOSC message board spokesman that you could defend the indefensible?

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01 Jun 2025 12:07 #30 by Urban Designer
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Heating, electricity, water will be lower at BP than a modern stadium considering the open terraces. Non playing wages - that's where it goes!

Other clubs seem to be fine with a much lower turnover.

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01 Jun 2025 12:23 - 01 Jun 2025 12:25 #31 by CCU
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Wet panters like UD are the reason Fan led Clubs will never succeed...

We've over 250 on the Payroll, it's a lot more than a first team squad at a Football Club!

That's before you've touched the Ground in any way, shape or form...

Travel, insurance, there's all kinds of costs!
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01 Jun 2025 12:46 #32 by Lakelandterrier
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CCU wrote: Wet panters like UD are the reason Fan led Clubs will never succeed...

We've over 250 on the Payroll, it's a lot more than a first team squad at a Football Club!

That's before you've touched the Ground in any way, shape or form...

Travel, insurance, there's all kinds of costs!



We also have Clibbens and King on the pay roll with over inflated salaries. Their work performance does not justify the salary.
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01 Jun 2025 14:02 #33 by Croydonblue
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250 on the payroll? Might I suggest an independent auditor looks at the actual names and related NI numbers . I smell a rat here. Staff who do not exist being paid or family members being slipped little envelopes? You would not put it past them.

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01 Jun 2025 14:06 #34 by MerseysideBlue
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Croydonblue wrote: 250 on the payroll? Might I suggest an independent auditor looks at the actual names and related NI numbers . I smell a rat here. Staff who do not exist being paid or family members being slipped little envelopes? You would not put it past them.


Figure includes match day staff such as stewards... then there's FITC coaches etc...
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01 Jun 2025 14:47 #35 by Urban Designer
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Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!
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01 Jun 2025 17:56 #36 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Croydonblue wrote: 250 on the payroll? Might I suggest an independent auditor looks at the actual names and related NI numbers . I smell a rat here. Staff who do not exist being paid or family members being slipped little envelopes? You would not put it past them.


Figure includes match day staff such as stewards... then there's FITC coaches etc...


The community set up is a registered charity the club should not be paying the wages of those employed by it
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01 Jun 2025 18:07 #37 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote: Wet panters like UD are the reason Fan led Clubs will never succeed...

We've over 250 on the Payroll, it's a lot more than a first team squad at a Football Club!

That's before you've touched the Ground in any way, shape or form...

Travel, insurance, there's all kinds of costs!


The 250 figure was from a few years back and does include stewards who over a year do less than 5 hours a week and whos number has been considerably cut back since that figure I understand the number of equivalent full time positions in financial year was ending June 2016 was just under 100.

Financial modelling on a fan owned club suggests that the jobs of 50% of the non football [ back office ] staff could be done entirely by volunteers or by volunteers who get paid for a match day but not for any work they do in the rest of the week considerably cutting the cost of the "back office" function.
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01 Jun 2025 18:51 #38 by Zenon
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The accounts to 30 June 2025 approved last night show that there was an average of 245 employees during the year, 198 admin and 47 football. No breakdown given between full and part time .

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01 Jun 2025 19:23 - 01 Jun 2025 19:24 #39 by Croydonblue
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Is Harry Redknapp's labrador vetting the books?
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01 Jun 2025 19:55 #40 by CCU
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Urban Designer wrote: Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!


You could be handling the budget of Qatar for all I care, but as you've shown very quickly on this Thread, you have no idea of the number of folk needed to make a Football Club tick over!

Couldn't agree more we need a more professional approach, not sure how you come to a conclusion I'm 'defensive and failing' though?!
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01 Jun 2025 20:58 - 01 Jun 2025 20:59 #41 by Waterworks
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FITC lads were paid by the club up until a few years ago anyway, although only receiving minimal funding from the club.
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06 Jun 2025 18:42 #42 by Urban Designer
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Urban Designer wrote: Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!


You could be handling the budget of Qatar for all I care, but as you've shown very quickly on this Thread, you have no idea of the number of folk needed to make a Football Club tick over!

Couldn't agree more we need a more professional approach, not sure how you come to a conclusion I'm 'defensive and failing' though?!

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200 odd on the payroll - wow more than Sunderland! Im sorry but zero hour contracts for program sellers and random thugs who are your stewards hardly count and along with the crap food and no hot water left contractors who are also not on your books. I very much doubt there are even 30 full time non playing staff at CUFC.

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06 Jun 2025 18:48 #43 by CCU
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CCU wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!


You could be handling the budget of Qatar for all I care, but as you've shown very quickly on this Thread, you have no idea of the number of folk needed to make a Football Club tick over!

Couldn't agree more we need a more professional approach, not sure how you come to a conclusion I'm 'defensive and failing' though?!

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200 odd on the payroll - wow more than Sunderland! Im sorry but zero hour contracts for program sellers and random thugs who are your stewards hardly count and along with the crap food and no hot water left contractors who are also not on your books. I very much doubt there are even 30 full time non playing staff at CUFC.


Of course they count! Yes, they're minor folks, but we wouldn't be a Club without them...
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06 Jun 2025 19:43 - 06 Jun 2025 19:45 #44 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

CCU wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!


You could be handling the budget of Qatar for all I care, but as you've shown very quickly on this Thread, you have no idea of the number of folk needed to make a Football Club tick over!

Couldn't agree more we need a more professional approach, not sure how you come to a conclusion I'm 'defensive and failing' though?!

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200 odd on the payroll - wow more than Sunderland! Im sorry but zero hour contracts for program sellers and random thugs who are your stewards hardly count and along with the crap food and no hot water left contractors who are also not on your books. I very much doubt there are even 30 full time non playing staff at CUFC.


Of course they count! Yes, they're minor folks, but we wouldn't be a Club without them...


The catering and bar staff shouldn't be counted as they are contracted out.the stewards should be contracted out and not counted and and part time positions should be consolidated into the equivalent number of full time positions.ans i would imagine programme sellers arent employees but agents paid on commission.

I.d say if that was done youd be looking at no more than 30 permanent full time positions
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07 Jun 2025 04:36 #45 by NORTHERNSOUL
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CCU wrote:

Urban Designer wrote:

CCU wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Im dealing with budgets a lot bigger than CUFC. Wet Panter??? Whatever you do CCU you are defensive and failing!!!! You need real professionals there to sort it out because the way CUFC is run is an amateurish mess!


You could be handling the budget of Qatar for all I care, but as you've shown very quickly on this Thread, you have no idea of the number of folk needed to make a Football Club tick over!

Couldn't agree more we need a more professional approach, not sure how you come to a conclusion I'm 'defensive and failing' though?!

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200 odd on the payroll - wow more than Sunderland! Im sorry but zero hour contracts for program sellers and random thugs who are your stewards hardly count and along with the crap food and no hot water left contractors who are also not on your books. I very much doubt there are even 30 full time non playing staff at CUFC.


Of course they count! Yes, they're minor folks, but we wouldn't be a Club without them...


The catering and bar staff shouldn't be counted as they are contracted out.the stewards should be contracted out and not counted and and part time positions should be consolidated into the equivalent number of full time positions.and i would imagine programme sellers arent employees but agents paid on commission.

I.d say if that was done youd be looking at no more than 30 permanent full time positions


And heres a good idea of what you can achieve at a fan owned club

www.exetercityfc.co.uk/news/2017/june/th...-all-our-volunteers/

A potential saving of 300k off the wage bill with an organised programme of volunteers
"The difference is the club belongs to the town and its fans. And when I'm done here it.ll be better than when I came in and it will still belong to the town and its fans." Andy Holt. May 2017

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07 Jun 2025 08:16 #46 by Bumble
Bumble replied the topic: Is the AGM still on May 31st?
It's a great effort. For it to work you need some one near the top to spend a lot of their time organising , some one who has respect for the fans and wants to see them involved.

Unfortunately at Brunton Park, there is a legacy that fans cannot be trusted to give their time and expertise, and if they do prove competent then they will take jobs from permanent staff so must be discouraged.

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07 Jun 2025 08:38 #47 by CCU
CCU replied the topic: Is the AGM still on May 31st?
Exactly what a proper SLO could get on with, in conjunction with a respected Supporters Trust/Club...
Win or Lose, Up The Blues!
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07 Jun 2025 09:55 #48 by Arragorn
Arragorn replied the topic: Is the AGM still on May 31st?
Unfortunately we have neither
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