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QPR job 04 Nov 2025 22:12 #1

RonBacardi Offline Ball Boy Posts: 228 Likes received: 96	Ramsey sacked, Warnock in charge. Curle in as assistant..?
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QPR job 04 Nov 2025 22:15 #2

CCU Offline Reserve Squad Posts: 942 Likes received: 343	Sol Campbell won't be happy... Powell this morning, Ramsey this evening... Nothing to do with the fact they're both shite?!
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QPR job 04 Nov 2025 22:29 #3

Tom Offline Ball Boy Posts: 100 Likes received: 25	Barnes will be on the radio tomorrow too. They were talking about the Rooney Rule on Talksport the other night, my text saying Keith Curle's Blue Army wasn't read out. Don't blame them mind.
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QPR job 04 Nov 2025 22:30 #4

crunchblue Offline Reserve Squad Posts: 597 Likes received: 192	Csnt see him going as assistant Curle said that Warnock offered him the palace assistant job but he isn't interested in being an assistant anymore.
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QPR job 04 Nov 2025 22:35 #5

bruntonpete Offline Ball Boy Posts: 218 Likes received: 73	How many black managers are there now? I don't think there is a prejudice in the appointment of black managers but the route through the ranks is still very much an old boys cluband jobs for mates which will take time breaking down. I wonder how many white English managers there are in the 92. Not many I'd imagine.
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 09:44 #6

Wazza Offline Reserve Squad Posts: 617 Likes received: 84	Frank Sinclair ‏@FrankMSinclair 54m54 minutes ago Yes of course you want more BMA representation in The English Pyramid but results determine how long you are in a job full stop not colour.
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 11:35 #7

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bruntonpete wrote:

How many black managers are there now?

I don't think there is a prejudice in the appointment of black managers but the route through the ranks is still very much an old boys cluband jobs for mates which will take time breaking down.

I wonder how many white English managers there are in the 92. Not many I'd imagine.

Surely as there are lots of black players, they will all have mates in the game too ?

51 out of the 92 are white and English.

76 out of the 92 are British.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 11:54 #8

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Good from Sinclair to come out and say what he has without jumping on the bandwagon. Thought Ramsey was lucky to get the job in the 1st place so no real surprise, QPR seems to be club were the running leaves a lot to be desired.

Huddersfield fans seemed mixed, sold best players/little recruitment (apart from Dempsey) but have really looked in trouble under him, might be a case of careful what you wish for, or new manager might turn them into a good side. Uwe Rosler being linked i saw.

On the Black manager debate, ive always thought there should be more at lower levels. Remember Ince started at Macclesfield didnt he and worked his way up to the prem, thats how most managers should do it, look at Hasslebank and hopefully Curle.

Think there is also a major problem with British managers, whatever colour, at the top level of the game. Would be interesting to see how recent sackings where british being replaced by foreign.

Sherwood - Garde
Rodgers - Klopp
Allerdyce - Bilic
Pearson - Raneiri

Just a thought but feel lack of british managers is hindering the british game

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 12:03 #9

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Dixy wrote:

Good from Sinclair to come out and say what he has without jumping on the bandwagon. Thought Ramsey was lucky to get the job in the 1st place so no real surprise, QPR seems to be club were the running leaves a lot to be desired.

Huddersfield fans seemed mixed, sold best players/little recruitment (apart from Dempsey) but have really looked in trouble under him, might be a case of careful what you wish for, or new manager might turn them into a good side. Uwe Rosler being linked i saw.

On the Black manager debate, ive always thought there should be more at lower levels. Remember Ince started at Macclesfield didnt he and worked his way up to the prem, thats how most managers should do it, look at Hasslebank and hopefully Curle.

Think there is also a major problem with British managers, whatever colour, at the top level of the game. Would be interesting to see how recent sackings where british being replaced by foreign.

Sherwood - Garde
Rodgers - Klopp
Allerdyce - Bilic
Pearson - Raneiri

Just a thought but feel lack of british managers is hindering the british game

Agree with you that managers, of any colour, should expect to work their way up from the bottom,

the main thing people like Sol Campbell go on about is that he's not considered for top jobs, even though he has absolutely no experience, then claim it's racist that he's not considered.

As I out above, 76/92 managers are British, granted only 8 of those manage in the prem, however the big prem clubs will always look for the best manager they can hire, regardless of nationality.

In the end football is probably one of the most meritocratic industries going, in that if you are a good manager, that wins games, you will rise to the top.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 12:22 #10

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This whole topic of how many black managers there are is ridiculous in any case. The Rooney rule is unworkable and will do no good whatsoever. Positive discrimination is still discrimination... and therefore wrong in my opinion. The rationale that they appear to use is that the percentage of black managers is lower than the percentage of black population in this country.... that may be true.... it seems that they are under represented as a percentage. However, you could use exactly the same rationale to say that black players are over represented as a percentage of population... can you imagine the uproar if teams were forced to play a certain number of white players to make up for the shortfall in percentage representation.

The whole argument is massively flawed.... I seriously doubt a club owner wouldn't employ a successful manager because of the colour of his skin. They are only interested in success. Where do you stop? There are no female managers in the professional game... should clubs have to interview a female candidate too?

Managers will be judged on success and rise through the game based upon knowledge and results... the colour of the skin shouldn't come into it at all. Forced, positive discrimination just makes the divisions and issue worse.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 12:31 #11

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Northumbrian wrote:

This whole topic of how many black managers there are is ridiculous in any case. The Rooney rule is unworkable and will do no good whatsoever. Positive discrimination is still discrimination... and therefore wrong in my opinion. The rationale that they appear to use is that the percentage of black managers is lower than the percentage of black population in this country.... that may be true.... it seems that they are under represented as a percentage. However, you could use exactly the same rationale to say that black players are over represented as a percentage of population... can you imagine the uproar if teams were forced to play a certain number of white players to make up for the shortfall in percentage representation.

The whole argument is massively flawed.... I seriously doubt a club owner wouldn't employ a successful manager because of the colour of his skin. They are only interested in success. Where do you stop? There are no female managers in the professional game... should clubs have to interview a female candidate too?

Managers are managers... they will be judged on success and rise through the game based upon knowledge and results... the colour of the skin shouldn't come into it at all. Forced, positive discrimination just makes the divisions and issue worse.

Completely agree, forcing clubs to interview managers just to adhere to a rule won't do anything, because at the end of the day they can hire whoever they want.

The rules of these things are overwhelmingly made by old, rich white men who are afraid of offending anybody, even if no offence has been caused in the 1st place. Didn't Curle and Ramsey say they would he against a quota because they'd rather be judged on ability ?

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 12:54 #12

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Not sure what was expected of Powell when you look at some of the other clubs Hudds are competing against in that league and the budgets they are playing with
Hudds selling their best players not a criticism just that's the level they are at,they were where are a few years ago.

just watch they will fetch some European coach in and in a few months be looking for a British manager to repair the damage..Think Brentford and Warburton cant believe they pushed him out

Expectations of managers at some clubs are ridiculous

Ramsay probably wasn't the right guy in first place and was left wit a huge overly paid squad of mercenaries not an easy job in that mess of a club wouldn't say it was his lack of managerial nous.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 13:13 #13

sirjimmyglass Offline Ball Boy Posts: 153 Likes received: 53	I wonder how many black coaches there are in the football league - I'd imagine the ratio of black:white managers is very similar to the ratio of black:white coaches. When you're talking about working your way up from the bottom, taking control of a League 2 club as manager isn't exactly doing that. Has Sol Campbell been a coach anywhere to learn his trade?
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 20:15 #14

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sirjimmyglass wrote:

I wonder how many black coaches there are in the football league - I'd imagine the ratio of black:white managers is very similar to the ratio of black:white coaches.

When you're talking about working your way up from the bottom, taking control of a League 2 club as manager isn't exactly doing that. Has Sol Campbell been a coach anywhere to learn his trade?

I don't think so, last time he was in the news he claimed he was going to try coaching abroad because of 'racist attitudes' here, mainly because Arsenal turned him down when he wanted to he a coach there.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 20:47 #15

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KC said he doesn't want the Rooney Rule as he'd rather be judged on ability.

Less than 2% of the UK, is black. The percentage of black managers in the football league, was until recently, higher than the percentage of black people in the country. They're called an ethnic minority for a reason. There are more white people than black in the UK. Is it really such a surprise there are also more white football managers than black?

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 20:54 #16

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cufcmike wrote:

KC said he doesn't want the Rooney Rule as he'd rather be judged on ability.

Less than 2% of the UK, is black. The percentage of black managers in the football league, was until recently, higher than the percentage of black people in the country. They're called an ethnic minority for a reason. There are more white people than black in the UK. Is it really such a surprise there are also more white football managers than black?

It's surprising because there is a much higher proportion of black players than there is managers.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 21:06 #17

Dancingbear Offline Bench Warmer Posts: 1131 Likes received: 532	Less than 2% of the population are also Cumbrian and theres less Cumbrian managers than black managers. We're the ones being discriminated against.
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 21:20 #18

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There is a broader issue. In public companies like those on the stockmarket, the number of black directors is well below what would be expected given the percentage of the population. Sadly a few rotten apples a decade or so ago spoiled the barrel and made it much harder for the undoubted black talent out there to reach the top.

I think the failure of high profile black managers to achieve success has become self-feeding. It is interesting that KC and Chris Hughton get on with the job in hand rather than playing up their ethnic minority background. But the important thing is that black ex-players take their coaching badges and work their way up on merit not through some quota.

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 22:04 #19

Dancingbear Offline Bench Warmer Posts: 1131 Likes received: 532	Or possibly English former black players have so far proven to not be very good managers?
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 22:13 #20

CheadleBlue Offline Ball Boy Posts: 53 Likes received: 27	Dancingbear wrote: Less than 2% of the population are also Cumbrian and theres less Cumbrian managers than black managers. We're the ones being discriminated against. What about black Cumbrians?
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 22:15 #21

CheadleBlue Offline Ball Boy Posts: 53 Likes received: 27	Dancingbear wrote: former black players Who used to be black?
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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 22:19 #22

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QPR job 05 Nov 2025 23:49 #23

Dancingbear Offline Bench Warmer Posts: 1131 Likes received: 532	CheadleBlue wrote: Dancingbear wrote: former black players Who used to be black? I remember when we signed Jason Lillis a mate of mine was convinced he was black the last time we'd played Maidstone
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QPR job 06 Nov 2025 15:52 #24

Crangon_Crangon Offline Ball Boy Posts: 224 Likes received: 76	I heard Dwight Yorke on the radio the other day trying to get the Aston Villa job on the grounds that the fans like him - would have been insta-relegation. Too lazy to go to another midlands club like Walsall and show he can actually do the job.
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