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Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ?

TOPIC: Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ?

Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:13 #1

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	In the whole of 2014 there were 23 people killed as part of a Terrorist ' Incident ' in the USA. In the same year there were 141 Shooting ' Incidents ' per DAY of which 35 people were killed per DAY.(12,569 for 2014) The powerful NRA promote gun ownership, the effects of this we have seen again on our TV screens. So, who is the bigger terror organisation the NRA or ISIS ?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:20 #2

loser Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 302 Likes received: 258	Do the NRA directly rape and murder innocent women and children? Think I'll say ISIS. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:30 #3

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	Let's have a vote on bombing America then silentone.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:30 #4

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Sadly around 20% of Women in America are raped, however this is about killings.........Not sure how that compares with ISIS as there are no statistics.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:32 #5

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: Let's have a vote on bombing America then silentone. Why would we bomb our allies, that makes no sense ??
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:46 #6

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	Why would you suggest the NRA are as bad as ISIS, that makes no sense?
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Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 10:49 #7

Happyblue Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 319 Likes received: 56	The Americans are worse than any terrorist group on the planet, but as they are mainly white Christians we ignore just how bad they are, 1.8 million civilians killed in Afghanistan, iraq war 600 thousand, but people seem to be deluded that these wars are to help people as what they were all about is having control of oil.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:15 #8

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: Why would you suggest the NRA are as bad as ISIS, that makes no sense? Well, we like to become involved when it suits our political agenda, however we sit back and accept it when it comes from what we conceive as the ' goodies ' Statistically things for the USA look pretty grim, would you not agree ?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:28 #9

Markovitch Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 345 Likes received: 62	loser wrote: Do the NRA directly rape and murder innocent women and children? Think I'll say ISIS. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk So female and child victims of gun crime are not innocent?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:30 #10

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Yes I would.

That does not make the NRA a terrorist organisation along the lines of ISIS though. Their aims are not to have people wandering round the United States killing and maiming people at will. They are misguided, perhaps, they may even be stupid, and they are plainly intransigent and their views would conflict with most people's in the UK. I would disagree, strongly, with their views on guns and gun law, however I would never think to compare them with a group like ISIS.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:33 #11

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Markovitch wrote:

loser wrote:

Do the NRA directly rape and murder innocent women and children? Think I'll say ISIS.

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So female and child victims of gun crime are not innocent?

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:40 #12

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	So, if we convert the misguided Extreme Muslims back to Moderate every day versions, and the killing stops..hey presto.. So, if we convert the misguided 25 million regular drug users (monthly) in America and the shooting stops...hey presto... There is a better chance of ISIS joining the NRA than either of the top two happening..
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:43 #13

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use?
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Re:RE: Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:47 #14

loser Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 302 Likes received: 258	Markovitch wrote: loser wrote: Do the NRA directly rape and murder innocent women and children? Think I'll say ISIS. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk So female and child victims of gun crime are not innocent? Point missed by approx 1,000,000 miles. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:51 #15

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use? It was you who suggested they were misguided not me..............
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Re:RE: Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:53 #16

feckwittery Offline Ball Boy Posts: 174 Likes received: 54	Presidential hopeful and lifetime NRA member Mr Donald Trump rather openly advocated operating a policy of genocide in a recent speech. This was greeted with all the stereotypical red-neck, hill-billy, gun toting, god fearing, right wing loony fervor you'd expect. They're as bad as each other.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 11:55 #17

sirjimmyglass Offline Ball Boy Posts: 204 Likes received: 83	thesilentone wrote: Sadly around 20% of Women in America are raped, however this is about killings.........Not sure how that compares with ISIS as there are no statistics. Sorry, you're saying that 1 in 5 American women get raped?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 12:04 #18

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sirjimmyglass wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

Sadly around 20% of Women in America are raped, however this is about killings.........Not sure how that compares with ISIS as there are no statistics.

Sorry, you're saying that 1 in 5 American women get raped?

Not me, see: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/rape-i...study_n_5784686.html

"Defining rape as "completed forced penetration," "attempted forced penetration" or "completed alcohol- or drug-facilitated penetration," researchers found that approximately 19.3 percent of American women and 1.7 percent of American men have been raped in their lifetimes.

That means that almost one in five women in the U.S. has been raped. That's over 23 million women.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 12:07 #19

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	thesilentone wrote: Moorlad wrote: So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use? It was you who suggested they were misguided not me.............. I did, and I believe they are. But what do they have to do, as an organisation, with the use of drugs in the USA?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 12:51 #20

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Moorlad wrote:

Markovitch wrote:

loser wrote:

Do the NRA directly rape and murder innocent women and children? Think I'll say ISIS.

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So female and child victims of gun crime are not innocent?

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

Point taken. My issue with the NRA is that they actively pursue an agenda which is shown to result in death. If you look at cigarettes the law has moved to limit advertisements etc etc, with cars we have manufacturers improving safety but with guns in the US the NRA have moved legislation and practice away from public safety. Is that worse morally than killing people because God told you to? Depends I guess on how much you believe in God. It is though easier to apply our moral code to the NRA than ISIS because they come from the same broad 21st century Christian background

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 13:08 #21

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: thesilentone wrote: Moorlad wrote: So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use? It was you who suggested they were misguided not me.............. I did, and I believe they are. But what do they have to do, as an organisation, with the use of drugs in the USA? So, are you suggesting that most of the 13k + deaths from shooting are not linked to drugs ?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 13:24 #22

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Moorlad wrote:

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

There's actually a very strong argument that it's not in the constitution - there's a huge [censored] leap from a "well regulated militia" to teaching 9 year old girls how to use an Uzi.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 13:56 #23

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	The NRA has the view that the more people who are armed, the better chance to shoot the shooter. Given there are more guns in America than people, where are those people with guns when the shooting starts ?
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:02 #24

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thesilentone wrote:

sirjimmyglass wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

Sadly around 20% of Women in America are raped, however this is about killings.........Not sure how that compares with ISIS as there are no statistics.

Sorry, you're saying that 1 in 5 American women get raped?

Not me, see: www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/rape-i...study_n_5784686.html

"Defining rape as "completed forced penetration," "attempted forced penetration" or "completed alcohol- or drug-facilitated penetration," researchers found that approximately 19.3 percent of American women and 1.7 percent of American men have been raped in their lifetimes.

That means that almost one in five women in the U.S. has been raped. That's over 23 million women.

Nobody mention Ched Evans...

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:12 #25

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thesilentone wrote:

Moorlad wrote:

thesilentone wrote:

Moorlad wrote:

So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use?

It was you who suggested they were misguided not me..............

I did, and I believe they are. But what do they have to do, as an organisation, with the use of drugs in the USA?

So, are you suggesting that most of the 13k + deaths from shooting are not linked to drugs ?

I'm not at all, as you can plainly see by reading my posts. I'm suggesting that the NRA aren't anything to do with the trade of drugs in the USA. You may know different I suppose.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:25 #26

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Armo wrote:

Moorlad wrote:

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

There's actually a very strong argument that it's not in the constitution - there's a huge [censored] leap from a "well regulated militia" to teaching 9 year old girls how to use an Uzi.

You'll get no argument from me about that to be honest. Even though an ancestor of mine was one of the people who signed the constitution.

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:44 #27

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Moorlad wrote:

Armo wrote:

Moorlad wrote:

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

There's actually a very strong argument that it's not in the constitution - there's a huge [censored] leap from a "well regulated militia" to teaching 9 year old girls how to use an Uzi.

You'll get no argument from me about that to be honest. Even though an ancestor of mine was one of the people who signed the constitution.

Must've missed your episode of Who Do You Think Are?!

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:54 #28

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Moorlad wrote:

Armo wrote:

Moorlad wrote:

It is not the NRA who kill them Marko. They just support the right of every US citizen to arm themselves. It isn't even the NRA who allow it to happen, it's the US government (perhaps pressured by the NRA and other such groups), but it remains in the US constitution that everyone is allowed to bear arms.

There's actually a very strong argument that it's not in the constitution - there's a huge [censored] leap from a "well regulated militia" to teaching 9 year old girls how to use an Uzi.

You'll get no argument from me about that to be honest. Even though an ancestor of mine was one of the people who signed the constitution.

Wasn't George Washington's grandmother a jam eater?

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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 14:58 #29

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	From Whitehaven apparently. Thomas Fitzsimmons was related to my lot who came over from Ireland.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 15:08 #30

Markovitch Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 345 Likes received: 62	So you're to blame
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 15:27 #31

Armo Offline Ball Boy Posts: 148 Likes received: 56	Moorlad wrote: From Whitehaven apparently. Thomas Fitzsimmons was related to my lot who came over from Ireland. Was a guess, never came across Fitzsimmons before.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 15:28 #32

Dancingbear Offline First Team Player Posts: 1562 Likes received: 754	I work with him.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 15:37 #33

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	Armo wrote: Moorlad wrote: From Whitehaven apparently. Thomas Fitzsimmons was related to my lot who came over from Ireland. Was a guess, never came across Fitzsimmons before. Sorry Armo, crossed purposes. Thomas Fitzsimmons (might have been spelled with one m) is related (distantly) to me. Washington's granny was somebody else entirely, but was from Whitehaven.
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Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 16:27 #34

Unrepentant blue Offline Ball Boy Posts: 39 Likes received: 14	Granted gun control in the USA and ISIS are very serious subjects but this must be one of the funniest threads ive read for ages!
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 16:48 #35

Kangshung Offline Ball Boy Posts: 93 Likes received: 20	Moorlad wrote: So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use? They certainly wouldn't be the first American institution with a three letter acronym to be involved with the drug trade As for the title of this thread, this is surely a wind-up.
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Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 18:16 #36

CCU Offline Bench Warmer Posts: 1325 Likes received: 492	When I first saw this thread I misread it as NWA, I know Dr Dre, Ice Cube et al have been involved in various misdemeanours but comparing them to IS is a tad OTT!
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Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 18:56 #37

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	To be fair CCU, they ought to be bombed for murdering music.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 19:15 #38

thebadger Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 342 Likes received: 237	thesilentone wrote: The NRA has the view that the more people who are armed, the better chance to shoot the shooter. Given there are more guns in America than people, where are those people with guns when the shooting starts ? Hiding and praying to JAYYsusss.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 19:27 #39

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: So, what have the NRA got to do with drug use? One of their biggest customers: www.thefix.com/content/mexican-drug-lord...nlikely-ally-nra9015
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 19:46 #40

Moorlad Offline First Team Player Posts: 1554 Likes received: 964	Dear me. That is tenuous at best.
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 19:57 #41

Dancingbear Offline First Team Player Posts: 1562 Likes received: 754	Im surprised your still giving him the time of day Moorlad. Ive given up wasting my time
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Re:Who is worse ISIS or the NRA ? 03 Dec 2025 20:05 #42

thesilentone Offline Youth Team Player Posts: 251 Likes received: 27	Moorlad wrote: Dear me. That is tenuous at best. Then ignore it.......
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