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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 18:22 #1

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Another one of Jezza's buddies.
A fresh ballot for strikes will be held among drivers on Arriva Trains Wales in a long-running row over pay, terms and conditions.
The union Aslef said it had been left with no option than to re-ballot its members after accusing the company of "reneging" on a proposed deal. A planned strike earlier this month was suspended to allow talks to be held.
Aslef's Mick Whelan said they "moved the goalposts" but Arriva's Gareth Thomas blamed a "misunderstanding."
Mr Whelan said: "After arriving at a deal with Arriva Trains Wales that we were happy to put to our members, the operator has subsequently moved the goal posts by changing the length of the shifts our members are expected to work.
"We had hoped to avoid this action, because we always work hard to find a resolution to problems without strike action, but this is no way to conduct industrial relations in the 21st century and the actions of management have left us with no choice other than to re-ballot our members."
Mr Thomas added: "The locally-elected company council were in full agreement with the terms of the deal. There appears to have been a misunderstanding between the locally-elected representatives with whom the detail of the deal was agreed and Aslef's national executive.
"Once again, we find ourselves in a position that the parts of the union closest to our people were in agreement with the detail of the deal but the national executive of Aslef, who were not involved in any discussions until November 11, seem to be unclear about the details of the deal which we believed to be acceptable to drivers locally.”
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 18:29 #2

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thesilentone wrote:
Another one of Jezza's buddies.
A fresh ballot for strikes will be held among drivers on Arriva Trains Wales in a long-running row over pay, terms and conditions.
The union Aslef said it had been left with no option than to re-ballot its members after accusing the company of "reneging" on a proposed deal. A planned strike earlier this month was suspended to allow talks to be held.
Aslef's Mick Whelan said they "moved the goalposts" but Arriva's Gareth Thomas blamed a "misunderstanding."
Mr Whelan said: "After arriving at a deal with Arriva Trains Wales that we were happy to put to our members, the operator has subsequently moved the goal posts by changing the length of the shifts our members are expected to work.
"We had hoped to avoid this action, because we always work hard to find a resolution to problems without strike action, but this is no way to conduct industrial relations in the 21st century and the actions of management have left us with no choice other than to re-ballot our members."
Mr Thomas added: "The locally-elected company council were in full agreement with the terms of the deal. There appears to have been a misunderstanding between the locally-elected representatives with whom the detail of the deal was agreed and Aslef's national executive.
"Once again, we find ourselves in a position that the parts of the union closest to our people were in agreement with the detail of the deal but the national executive of Aslef, who were not involved in any discussions until November 11, seem to be unclear about the details of the deal which we believed to be acceptable to drivers locally.”
A fresh ballot for strikes will be held among drivers on Arriva Trains Wales in a long-running row over pay, terms and conditions.
The union Aslef said it had been left with no option than to re-ballot its members after accusing the company of "reneging" on a proposed deal. A planned strike earlier this month was suspended to allow talks to be held.
Aslef's Mick Whelan said they "moved the goalposts" but Arriva's Gareth Thomas blamed a "misunderstanding."
Mr Whelan said: "After arriving at a deal with Arriva Trains Wales that we were happy to put to our members, the operator has subsequently moved the goal posts by changing the length of the shifts our members are expected to work.
"We had hoped to avoid this action, because we always work hard to find a resolution to problems without strike action, but this is no way to conduct industrial relations in the 21st century and the actions of management have left us with no choice other than to re-ballot our members."
Mr Thomas added: "The locally-elected company council were in full agreement with the terms of the deal. There appears to have been a misunderstanding between the locally-elected representatives with whom the detail of the deal was agreed and Aslef's national executive.
"Once again, we find ourselves in a position that the parts of the union closest to our people were in agreement with the detail of the deal but the national executive of Aslef, who were not involved in any discussions until November 11, seem to be unclear about the details of the deal which we believed to be acceptable to drivers locally.”

So good a story you copied it twice eh you boring [censored]
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 19:10 #3

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He won't have read it.
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Re:The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 20:22 #4

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Moorlad wrote:
He won't have read it.

I doubt he'll be the only one!


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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 21:10 #5

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Will you bore off with your [censored] union shite, you clown
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 21:16 #6

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Good for them. Everyone deserves extra christmas holidays.
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 23:42 #7

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I'm afraid I don't feel in a position to take sides on this issue.
This is because I have never worked as a train driver, have rarely been to Wales (been to Racecourse Ground and Millenium Stadium mind) and I don't fully understand the history and background of the dispute.
If I were to form an opinion, it would be based on my prejudice, not facts. So, for those reasons alone, I'm out.
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Re:The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 04 Dec 2025 23:47 #8

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Fantastic news. Love that every time a Union secures a result, this mong gets proper upset because he's jealous and has a sh*t job.

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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 05 Dec 2025 00:52 #9

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Bit of a misleading thread title.

In that article it only says they will be balloting for a strike, it doesn't detail when they propose the strike to take place, nor does it say anywhere that part of the new deal they wanted would involve more holiday time over Christmas.

Yet more unread rubbish posted by TheSilentOne, can we get some sort of ticker so we can keep track of the amount of crap he posts on here ?
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 05 Dec 2025 05:27 #10

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Why is there a link to Corbyn? Maybe we could bomb them or arm moderate train drivers?
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 05 Dec 2025 08:22 #11

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Markovitch wrote:
Why is there a link to Corbyn? Maybe we could bomb them or arm moderate train drivers?

They're Welsh. I doubt there's many moderate ones. That's unless you count the ones who run the steam trains at Llangollen who've been fighting sheep for 120 years. At least I think they fight them ;)
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The Loonies secure Extra Christmas Holidays. 05 Dec 2025 11:04 #12

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Where is the angle of this article that has the slightest relevance for this forum?
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