franksidebottom wrote:
griff wrote:
Some folk should be very careful. No, we're not a conspicuously racist supporter-base, but there are obviously a minority who will be. After all, the Daily Mail has a fairly wide circulation.
But can I just point out one thing. The one thing that I detest on this board is the fairly constant denigration of "scousers" as though they are a racial group, dedicated in their entirety to thieving (eh, Alan?). No doubt there are a minority of Liverpudlians who turn to crime, just as there will be a minority of racists in our ranks. That's is no reason to label the whole population of a city in derogatory terms. There was even a thread on here a few days ago saying how folk should be careful as the scousers attending yesterday's game would be removing stuff from skips. And these sorts of posts crop up from time to time, generally when Liverpool FC are playing. Pack it in, eh? You have to realise that these sorts of comments labels YOU as discriminatory at best, racist at worst.
Time for it to stop.
Shut up griff, for Christ sake.
Stereotyping cities or areas of the country due to what they are known for has gone on for years, most will take it as what it is, banter. However there's always a few precious ones amongst us who will take offence, these are normally the ones who are offended by anything and everything, pathetic really. Do you think folk from the West Country are offended at being called cider drinkers or wurzels? Or folk from Sunderland getting called Mackems? Or southerners getting called shandy drinkers? I certainly wasn't offended when opposition fans used to sing sheep shaggers at us. It's light hearted banter ffs!
Stinky's correct when saying a lot of scousers (whoops, am I allowed to call them this?) would take great pride in thieving from firstly the port then later on from all over Europe when they would travel away with football. Obviously nobody's saying every single Liverpudlian is a thief, but whether you like it or not it's a reputation which scousers have earned over the years. To call it racist is a pathetic overreaction to be honest.
Find it quite hilarious that you're accusing folk on here of being hypocrites yet on the one hand you're whinging about people generalising others and stereotyping and on the other you're implying all Daily Mail readers are racist!!! Work that one out
Shut up yourself Frank.
Firstly on the Daily Mail point it was proven in the British Crime Survey some years ago that people's perception of how crime affects them was skewed by whether they read the broadsheets or the tabloids. Broadsheet readers were generally well informed on crime levels and the sorts of crime that is happening and in which areas. Tabloid readers were generally poorly informed by sensational headlines, and had no real idea that (at the time) crime levels were falling especially in urban areas. The Daily Mail was cited as being a prime example, choosing to sell newspapers by leading with items demonising asylum seekers, over-sensationalising crime rates and causing health scares. I'm not saying that Daily Mail readers are racist. I'm saying that they have a tendency to be poorly informed on key subjects.
Oh, and last time I looked, drinking shandy or cider or being a Mackem isn't a criminal offence. And if you're ok with being called a sheep-shagger then good on you. However, thieving is an offence, and is especially unacceptable when applied to the whole population of a city.
I really don't think you thought your post through, Frank.