TOPIC: This belief Abbott signed nothing but duffers

The Archer wrote:
With Nixon and Jenkins running the show youre spot on

But with a Knighton or Courtenay as a figure head youd sell 1k more season tickets [ has anybody heard anything coming out of the club this week pushing ST.s on the back of the signings to date. Have you hell as like. ] and the skys the limit with a get your fuckin arses down to to BP call from the rooftops [ think Bury that Boxing day with 1500 locked out.

If i were the club right now on the back of the last two weeks signings i.d say anybody who buys a season ticket in the next two weeks we.ll give you a free ten quid each way bet on the blues i.m sure sky bet would virtually give you the bets for free to sign up a thousand new punters.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
So you reckon that if Carlisle United (funded or not funded by Sky Bet) offered everybody who bought a season ticket in the next 2 weeks, a free £10 each way bet on the Blues, they would sell 1,000 more Season Tickets? Madness. Never going to happen.

cufcdeano wrote:
Merseysideblue is now looking to see if there's any way he can lay off 1000 Carlisle season tickets on betfair

Dancingbear wrote:
I'm having enough bother with the Euros top goalscorer offers!!

cufcdeano wrote:
No not with negative fuckers like you,The Trust Board Nixon Jenkins and their commercial manager who doesnt even appear to have brought his own salary in yet running things.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Have a day off Barry for fucks sake. You have no idea how much the Commercial Manager has or hasn't brought in, so stop playing the big man and alluding to things you have no idea about.

I always find it strange how the club cut Abbott's budget year on year and yet basically handed a bottomless pit to Kav. So much so that Kav apparently bragged about how much money he was able to get out of them.

Yes we were in League 2 and wanted to get out of it but surely the owners have to show some sort of budgetary responsibility.

moose wrote:
I'd expect the Bookies.com and Newcastle Airport sponsorships probably more than covered his wages.

moose wrote:
So fire away then Moose lets be seeing the list as you seem to think that i.m wrong.

The only two deals hes seems to have done are are two bit thing with Newcastle Airport which no doubt has a lock out clause which will stop the Stobbarts coming back on board as they launch the fligts in the next 9 months a great piece of work that.

And the other one is hes played a significant role in reducing the value of our shirt sponsorhip from 100k to a figure nearer to 20k in the space of 3 years.to the point that we now have a 2 bit local building company with links to drug dealers on our shirts after 20 years of displaying national brands which has all the pointers of turning into a Bookies.com mk 2

But if you know different as i say then fire away.

DeckchairBlue wrote:
For Newcastle Airport see above yeah a great piece of business that.

As far as Bookies.com goes i know he had nothing to do with that it was up and running a long time before he arrived.. That one was entirely down to AJ every time he wanted a bit more cash out of him he just let him lick his arse for a little longer and gave him a new title.

Be very interesting to see which clubs accept Bookies.com,s advertising this year after what happened last season.

Read my post again you buffoon.

I don't know any different, and neither do you.

So stop passing off your half baked theories as fact when you don't have the first idea of what you are talking about.

moose wrote:
A hell of a lot more than you do it seems.

You know nothing Barry.

Once a bullshitter, always a bullshitter.

Do you know that Newcastle Airport have a lock out clause, or is that just another false statement you're making up. And you call me negative.

cufcdeano wrote:
Because when i mentioned to someone involved in Stadia Advertising at the time it was announced lock out clause was the first they said.

Do you really think Newcastle Airport went into it to be associated with some leaky dilapidated shed in Carlisle ?

A mate of a mate, reckons his next door neighbours dog told him the moon was made of cheese.

moose wrote:
I think you should get some new mates who arent on hallucinogenic substances then

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
Another false statement your just making up then.

Regarding the claims made in this thread, why should anyone believe the bloke who boasts of convictions for football related offences, who can't be bothered to even go to Brunton Park?

Massive credibility problem like.

deeksme wrote:
Nothing to do with not being bothered. entirely to do with NAPM until the club is owned and run by people i approve of difference is unlike most of the other 3000 i havnt just walked away and found other things to do completely.

Barry not being funny, but you have walked away. You no longer attend home games, so you no longer support Carlisle United.

Man Utd would have only a fraction of their current "supporters" if you had to watch them to support them.

CarlisleWhite wrote:
Completely different as it's possible to watch Man Utd games live anywhere on the planet.

Barry has the ability to attend Carlisle games but chooses to go to Accrington/Blackpool instead.

DeckchairBlue wrote:
Just to correct the above statement i.ve not attended any Blackpool games full stop The last time i saw them play was against CUFC at BR at Xmastime around 2009 I think it was.I did attend a protest march there on the same day i went to watch Workington in the play off final at Salford and i.ve been to Accrington games twice this season on days when CUFC were at home both were corporate hospitality events that were business related in addition i went to a couple of their end of season sell out games with friends who are staunch Stanley supporters once CUFC could no longer be involved in the playoffs only changing my plans once that was on the last day of the season when i chose to go to their shit or bust game against Stevenage instead of going to Notts County for what in the end was a meaningless end of season match as was planned.

I actually watched CUFC 11 times this season inc one at BP for the first time since it was made clear that i wasnt welcome at BP by the Lanky Tw*at over 10 years ago.and thats the highest season total in that time so my support of the team has actually gone up last season not down to a point where i probrably saw more games than plenty who live no more than 20 mins from the ground but like me a lot of them chose not to subsidise to social lives of Jenkins Nixon Pattison and their abhorrent bum chums like Paul Bell.

Mortonblue wrote:
Try telling that to a lot of supporters who live away from the county Morton

I.m just an easy target because for 30 years pre Story I would of been in the top ten attenders home and away most years as you would well know.

Is it just me or what? but I never get this 'I'm not going back until we change owners, manager, board members, tea lady ya ya ya' business. I don't particular like Curle as our manager, but would it stop me going? would it hell as like! The only thing its hurting is the very thing that we all supposed to support, 'the bloody club'.
Seems to me that some people will use any excuse they can not to go when the team isn't doing too well.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
Two long sentences there.

bluebry wrote:
I'm not really fussed about any of that in the grand scheme of things either. In the last 3 or 4 years I've missed more home games than previously, but that's because the football has been absolutely dreadful. Going to BP and thinking 'why oh why did I bother' 15 minutes into games, when you're 2-0 down makes it really easy to want to find other things to do on a Saturday. Or even a Tuesday night when there's Champions League on tele.

That's not so much about being a fair weather supporter as it is really not wanting to waste money on something I'm really not enjoying, and not being proud of the team I support. I'd quite happily not watch us win that many games, so long as the football was entertaining and we competed.

bluebry wrote:
Well you cant throw that one at me i went less during the last promotion season/division one games than at any time in the last 40 years.

Some people dont care about what goes on in the world whereas i take an interest in who runs/owns the companies i do business/spend money with for instance i no longer shop at Tesco for a number of reasons and.I would cut my own throat before giving a penny to Sky or any of Murdochs other companies

If people woke up and realised who really wields the power at a football club at this level and turned off the cash tap to any owners they dont approve of more quickly and realised for as little as a fiver a week the game would be rid of parasites in the game like Jenkins and Oyston then the game would be all the better for it.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
Admittedly Jenkins is not everybody's cup of tea at the moment, and he could and should have done things maybe a lot better, but to cast him in the same boat as an Oyston and call him a 'parasite' is bloody disgraceful in my opinion, after what he has done for the club over the years.

He is a disgusting parasite though.

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Jenkins is just living in the past, Nixon is the blight that is afflicting the club. He's the one that needs got shot of most.Patty is just an irrelevance who happens to have bben given some shares.

A parasite is gan a bit far! But we've always struggled when he's been chairman.
I think he's still stuck in the 60s as regards running a football club unfortunately and he should have moved aside years ago.

bluebry wrote: It is a disgraceful comparison .... there is no way Oyston would stoop to calling people C**TS on live radio....

DeckchairBlue wrote:
Ignoring the comments about NS, that was no what Morton said.
He said if you don't watch your team at home you are not a supporter, which I think is probably one of the better criteria for a supporter

I must admit, I much preferred it when you hardly knew who the owners were and they were judged solely on results on the pitch.

Just to be back on topic

According to Soccerbase these are the player transfers under GA - some good ones - but some shockingly bad ones
2008/09
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Richard Keogh Bristol C Free 20 Aug, 2008
Graham Kavanagh Sunderland Free 01 Jan, 2009
Joe Anyinsah Preston Signed 09 Jan, 2009
Lewis Neal Preston Free 08 Feb, 2009
Ian Harte Blackpool Free 26 Mar, 2009

2009/10
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Matty Robson Hartlepool Free 30 Jun, 2009
Tony Kane Blackburn Free 21 Jul, 2009
Lenny Pidgeley Millwall Free 21 Jul, 2009
Kevan Hurst Scunthorpe Signed 14 Aug, 2009
Richard Offiong Hamilton £75,000 25 Aug, 2009
Tom Taiwo Chelsea Signed 07 Jan, 2010
Sean McDaid Doncaster Free 31 May, 2010
Jason Price Millwall Free 17 Jun, 2010
Craig Curran Tranmere Free 17 Jun, 2010
Frankie Simek Sheff Wed Free 01 Jul, 2010
James Berrett Huddersfield Free 06 Jul, 2010

Players out
PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Luke Joyce Accrington Free 01 Jul, 2009
Kevin Gall Darlington Free 01 Jul, 2009
Danny Carlton Bury Free 01 Jul, 2009
Chris Lumsdon Darlington Free 01 Jul, 2009
Jeff Smith Darlington Free 01 Jul, 2009
Lewis Neal Shrewsbury Free 02 Jul, 2009
Danny Graham Watford Free 02 Jul, 2009
Ben Williams Colchester Signed 10 Jul, 2009
Cleveland Taylor Brentford Signed 14 Aug, 2009
Vincent Pericard Swindon Free 01 Jan, 2010
Richard Keogh Coventry Signed 29 Jun, 2010
Tom Aldred Watford Free 01 Jul, 2010
David Raven Shrewsbury Free 09 Jul, 2010

2010/11
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Rory Loy Rangers Signed 28 Jan, 2011
Paddy Madden Bohemians D. Signed 31 Jan, 2011
Andy Welsh Yeovil Free 01 Jun, 2011
Jon-Paul McGovern Swindon Signed 21 Jun, 2011

Players out
PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Evan Horwood Hartlepool Free 15 Jul, 2010
Joe Anyinsah Charlton Free 31 Aug, 2010
Ian Harte Reading Signed 31 Aug, 2010
Andy Cook Barrow Signed 14 Jan, 2011
Marc Bridge-WilkinsonDarlington Free 18 Jan, 2011
Gary Madine Sheff Wed Signed 21 Jan, 2011
Nahki Wells Bradford Free 01 Jun, 2011

2011/12
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Stephen O'Halloran Coventry Signed 01 Jul, 2011
Lee Miller Middlesbro Free 23 Aug, 2011
Chris Chantler Man City Signed 06 Jan, 2012
Mike Edwards Notts Co Free 11 Jun, 2012

Players out
PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Kevan Hurst Walsall Free 28 Jun, 2011
Jason Price Barnet Free 01 Aug, 2011
Ryan Bowman Darlington Free 01 Aug, 2011
Steven SwinglehurstAnnan Signed 27 Jan, 2012

2012/13
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Danny Cadamarteri Huddersfield Free 21 Jun, 2012
Liam Noble Sunderland Signed 01 Jul, 2012
Sean O'Hanlon Hibernian Free 11 Jan, 2013
Mathieu Manset FC Sion Signed 12 Mar, 2013

Players out
PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Lubomir Michalik Portsmouth Free 01 Jul, 2012
Tom Taiwo Hibernian Free 01 Jul, 2012
Craig Curran Rochdale Signed 01 Aug, 2012
Francois Zoko Notts Co Free 03 Aug, 2012
Paddy Madden Yeovil Signed 03 Jan, 2013
Alessio Bugno Monza Free 31 Jan, 2013
Adam Collin Rotherham Free 23 May, 2013
Rory Loy Falkirk Signed 31 May, 201

2013/14
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
David Amoo Tranmere Free 14 Jun, 2013
Josh Gillies Gateshead Signed 27 Jun, 2013
Greg Fleming Grimsby Free 01 Jul, 2013
Lewis Guy St Mirren Free 25 Jul, 2013
Danny ButterfieldSouthampton Free 23 Aug, 2013

Players out
PLAYER TO FEE DATE
Andy Welsh Scunthorpe Free 24 Jun, 2013
Mathieu Manset Coventry Free 07 Aug, 2013
Danny Butterfield Exeter Free 21 Sep, 2013

Them last 2 summer transfer windows are absolutely painful to read. No wonder we went from a top 8 side to relegation within a couple of years.

He should have gone at the end of that 12/13 season when we narrowly avoided the drop. The team he put together for the start of following season was the worst I've ever seen.

ccording to Soccerbase these are the player transfers under GA - some good ones - but some shockingly bad ones
2008/09
Players in
PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
Richard Keogh Bristol C Free 20 Aug, 2008
Graham Kavanagh Sunderland Free 01 Jan, 2009
Joe Anyinsah Preston Signed 09 Jan, 2009

Can't really count these three as all previously identified by John Ward.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:
I'm Sick of this man and his endless posts

golden_ramble wrote:
Under players out July 2009 ..Danny Graham certainly didn't go for free..after going to tribunal we got a big fee and sell ons...Watford initially offered us £25k or some such ,often wondered if we got the money and the sell ons to Swansea

Back to the original point. When did anyone say Abbott signed nothing but dross? Don't think I've heard that accusation before. Load of rubbish maybe but that doesn't mean every single player was rubbish.

Surely the last 2 years were because the budget was dramatically cut by the 3/4 amigos?
When it is cut, it only takes one or two duffers to be signed for the effect to have a much greater effect.
Still think he's a total bluffer mind.