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Gareth southgate 07 Nov 2025 21:11 #1

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What a joke. FA puppet.
When will we get a decent single minded manager who has a plan and picks form players and uses youth.
Germany did it with love or whatever he is called and look at them.
FA total [censored] allong with the kiss arses they employ
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Gareth southgate 07 Nov 2025 21:21 #2

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I don't mind him tbh. At least he's been honest enough to say he won't take the job for the sake of it if he doesn't feel it's right.
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Gareth southgate 07 Nov 2025 21:29 #3

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Sam was the right sort of character to be fair, just a shame he shot himself in the foot - I reckon that they should have kept him really if Southgate is the alternative.

Heard an interesting point that Big Sam obviously has a hundred percent record and is likely to be the only manager of England who will probably end his tenure with that.
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Handled the questions pretty well today I thought.

Low was part of huge changes, he was actually a massive yes man with regards to what the DFB wanted to do.

www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwo...agers-world-2015-no8
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Gareth southgate 07 Nov 2025 22:31 #5

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huddersfieldcock wrote:
What a joke. FA puppet.
When will we get a decent single minded manager who has a plan and picks form players and uses youth.
Germany did it with love or whatever he is called and look at them.
FA total [censored] allong with the kiss arses they employ

So you want him to be single minded as long as he does what you want him to do?
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 06:50 #6

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Sam was the right sort of character to be fair, just a shame he shot himself in the foot - I reckon that they should have kept him really if Southgate is the alternative.

Heard an interesting point that Big Sam obviously has a hundred percent record and is likely to be the only manager of England who will probably end his tenure with that.

Yes you'd of thought Aladyce would of sorted the overpaid, idle players out and picked the one who deserved to play but he just picked the usual useless f*****s who were crap at the euros. Jack Wilshere has played his first 90 minutes for what seems like years so he goes straight back in the squad! I gave up on England after Euro 96 :(
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 10:03 #7

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Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?
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Dancingbear wrote:
huddersfieldcock wrote:
What a joke. FA puppet.
When will we get a decent single minded manager who has a plan and picks form players and uses youth.
Germany did it with love or whatever he is called and look at them.
FA total [censored] allong with the kiss arses they employ

So you want him to be single minded as long as he does what you want him to do?
Like the Brexit voters who want Parliamentary sovereignty and the rule of UK law upheld by independent UK judges but only as long as it suits their end goal.
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Re:RE: Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 11:48 #9

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Is it UK law though loser or was it just the finer details of the referendum wording was wrong?
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 13:33 #10

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Same players, same formation, Southgate won't be any different from Hodgson.

Why don't we go back to an English style instead, we've got to a point where we are ashamed to play a flat 442, work hard, have a big man little man front two and get some crosses in.

Failing badly to try and pass teams off the pitch the way Spain did 8 years ago now. Sick of hearing "we need to take a leaf out of Germany's book" and such like.
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 13:43 #11

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Young Pickford called up for Fridays game
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 18:02 #12

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Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?

I'd have Austin and Redmond from Southampton, and maybe even Harry Arter in the squad.

There's too many foreigners playing in England, teams shoud be limited to a certain number then we might start producing decent home grown players.
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 18:14 #13

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Mush wrote:
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Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?

I'd have Austin and Redmond from Southampton, and maybe even Harry Arter in the squad.

There's too many foreigners playing in England, teams shoud be limited to a certain number then we might start producing decent home grown players.

I take it Harry Arter's a wind-up?
Is Austin better than any of the four selected? Very debatable
Redmond has been called up to train with the first team but as u21 manager I feel Southgate has half an eye on next year's euro champs as far as Redmond is concerned.

Hardly a queue of able players waiting in the wings though is there?!
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 18:17 #14

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Harry Arter is a bloody classic like.
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 18:19 #15

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We need to take a leaf out of Germany's book...
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 18:53 #16

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As Arter has only featured in friendlies for Ireland, he could technically switch to England. Think there was discussion on Sky a few weeks back, can remember reading at the time...

Edit - Found it: www.sportsjoe.ie/football/heres-why-harr...ay-for-england/97850
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As Arter has only featured in friendlies for Ireland, he could technically switch to England. Think there was discussion on Sky a few weeks back, can remember reading at the time...

Edit - Found it: www.sportsjoe.ie/football/heres-why-harr...ay-for-england/97850

He said no chance early October.
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 20:12 #18

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franksidebottom wrote:
Mush wrote:
franksidebottom wrote:
Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?

I'd have Austin and Redmond from Southampton, and maybe even Harry Arter in the squad.

There's too many foreigners playing in England, teams shoud be limited to a certain number then we might start producing decent home grown players.

I take it Harry Arter's a wind-up?
Is Austin better than any of the four selected? Very debatable
Redmond has been called up to train with the first team but as u21 manager I feel Southgate has half an eye on next year's euro champs as far as Redmond is concerned.

Hardly a queue of able players waiting in the wings though is there?!

I'd have Arter over Henderson any day.

There isn't a queue of players because like I said there's too many foreigners playing in England. It's alright though because we've got the best league in the world
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 20:21 #19

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Mush wrote:
franksidebottom wrote:
Mush wrote:
franksidebottom wrote:
Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?

I'd have Austin and Redmond from Southampton, and maybe even Harry Arter in the squad.

There's too many foreigners playing in England, teams shoud be limited to a certain number then we might start producing decent home grown players.

I take it Harry Arter's a wind-up?
Is Austin better than any of the four selected? Very debatable
Redmond has been called up to train with the first team but as u21 manager I feel Southgate has half an eye on next year's euro champs as far as Redmond is concerned.

Hardly a queue of able players waiting in the wings though is there?!

I'd have Arter over Henderson any day.

There isn't a queue of players because like I said there's too many foreigners playing in England. It's alright though because we've got the best league in the world

Are you deliberately ignoring the fact his granda once bought a paper in Cork and has said he wont play for England?
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Gareth southgate 08 Nov 2025 20:28 #20

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Mush wrote:
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Mush wrote:
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Was just wondering who these in form players are who were unfortunate to miss out.

Unless it's escaped your notice there isn't a vast number of international quality, in form players queuing up to represent England at the minute. As for the point about not picking youth, it's not something which could be levelled against Hodgson. Isn't this one of the youngest most inexperienced England groups for years?

I'd have Austin and Redmond from Southampton, and maybe even Harry Arter in the squad.

There's too many foreigners playing in England, teams shoud be limited to a certain number then we might start producing decent home grown players.

I take it Harry Arter's a wind-up?
Is Austin better than any of the four selected? Very debatable
Redmond has been called up to train with the first team but as u21 manager I feel Southgate has half an eye on next year's euro champs as far as Redmond is concerned.

Hardly a queue of able players waiting in the wings though is there?!

I'd have Arter over Henderson any day.

There isn't a queue of players because like I said there's too many foreigners playing in England. It's alright though because we've got the best league in the world

Totally agree with the foreigners point but that's a different argument. Folk are saying Southgate should be picking different players but the fact is there's nobody else to pick!
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Not sure how Marcus Rashford deserves/deserved a call up ahead of a list of people.
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Frank's got this about right. Hodgson actually brought through a lot of young players to replace the old guard, admittedly he was partly forced due to retirement.

Dier, Alli, Rose, Kane, Lallana, Henderson, Smalling have all become regulars since Capello's days. The truth is, these lads aren't as good as the much maligned golden generation yet, they may never be. Also, aside from the Iceland game, the performances weren't too bad - albeit badly lacking in tempo.

Pointless appointing a fall guy who'll get the bullet if we don't win one of the next two tournaments, find the right man and trust them to build while acknowledging that there might be some backwards steps along the way. I can't see Southgate being any worse than anyone else.
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It would just be nice to see a manager with new ideas and at least a new formation
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It would just be nice to see a manager with new ideas and at least a new formation
Sure Southgate played in a back 3 as a player and may have done when manager for Middleborough. With Chelsea playing well with a back 3 it may not be long until it becomes flavour of the month.
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Imagine if Keith was England manager, we would get a draw at least from every game :)
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Imagine if Keith was England manager, we would get a draw at least from every game :)

Think Raynes may get found out at that level.
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