TOPIC: Dick Young / Lord Clark to be removed from Operational Board?

www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-united/la...utd-revamp-1.1225945

The future of two long-serving Carlisle United directors is understood to be in the balance as the club considers further changes behind the scenes.

The Cumberland News understands the positions of Dick Young and Lord Clark of Windermere are under threat in a continued revamp of United’s operational board.

Their roles have been discussed in previous meetings, and club directors are set for further talks before tomorrow’s home game against AFC Wimbledon.

Commercial director Young, son of legendary trainer Dick Young, has been an influential figure at the Blues and played a key role in setting up the Carlisle United Business Club.

Labour peer Lord Clark first joined the board in 2002 at the invitation of ex-owner John Courtenay.

United are yet to finalise the full make-up of their restructured operational and holdings company boards, with the Carlisle United Official Supporters’ Club – formerly the United Trust – another party with an interest in the discussions.

CUOSC are expected to take a seat on the strategic holding board – alongside fellow owners John Nixon and Andrew Jenkins – for the first time.

But negotiations are continuing on whether they will lose their current representative from the day-to-day operational board of Carlisle United 1921 Ltd.

CUOSC have previously stated they would prefer to be represented on both boards.

Currently on the operational board are former managing director Nixon – now ‘director of external affairs’ – chairman Jenkins, Steven Pattison, Young, Lord Clark, CUOSC chairman Norman Steel, honorary president David Dent and the recently-appointed finance director Suzanne Kidd and sales and marketing director Phil King.

The latter pair are in charge of day-to-day business at the club and whose appointment was intended to give the board a “new, younger line-up”, with the club also set to appoint a supporter representative.

On further potential changes, a United spokesman only described the operational board restructure as “an ongoing process, with the appointments of Suzanne Kidd and Phil King an indication of that.”

United have also maintained they remain in dialogue with the “billionaire” overseas investor whose identity is still a closely-guarded secret.

In response to a request for an update, United said: “The club remains in contact with the potential investor. Communication is ongoing.”

It has now been 94 days since the club announced they had received an approach from the mystery party.

The Cumberland News, meanwhile, understands that, despite speculation, there is no link between the would-be investor’s interest and the former Gretna managing director Keith Agar.

cufcdeano wrote:
If Carlsberg did newspaper reports...

Nixons night of the long knives.

It's like one of those magic tricks with three cups and a ball.... if you move them around often enough you won't have a clue where the ball is.

The Cumberland News, meanwhile, understands that, despite speculation, there is no link between the would-be investor’s interest and the former Gretna managing director Keith Agar.

Id take that with a pinch of salt at the time being, No one would admit to anything would they? That wasn't the question though it was whether Agar introduced the current board to the agent working for the billionaire.

Agar was only at Gretna for a month!

He has a chequered career in football to say the least.

Another knee jerking attempt to deflect attention away from the miss management, the club has no MD so who is making these decisions and are they supported by the board?
Wonder what the business community think of this? Dick Young has worked hard to keep business investing and unlike certain directors doesn't take any wage or shares or fa privileges. Does it for his love for the club and this is how they repay him!
If there is a billionaire in mind why change now? It would make sense to wait till he/she has a proper MD in place isn't that the reason why there isn't a MD currently?

I thought we were going to stop cut/pasting stuff from the N&S;?

ExiledJock wrote:
From the official site, not the N&S.;

These 2 were very much behind the Lapping plan, Lord Clark mentioned it on radio v Chesterfield.

There is a billionaire, showed an interest to an agent who is close to Andrew Jenkins, the billionaire is now not keen at all, hence the silence, and its the agent who is desperate to make it happen. Nixon is practically admitting to people within the club he doesn't expect it to happen at all but maintains they will only sell to right person.

In short, expect a statement in the future about the billionaire pulling out or whatever, which 99% expected.

spaffhead wrote:


which of course they will blame on the fans/AL/Andy H/Cameron/Clegg/Miliband/a small creature from somewhere in the vicinity of Beetlejuice/this forum....in short anything but themselves.....

Did my message get deleted?

Mullen103 wrote:
Yes, let's stick to facts please.

The three amigos are the ones that need removing from the board.

cufcdeano wrote:
It is fact

The facts are that there is no billionaire and that John Nixon is a lying piece of filth. The statement about the billionaire losing interest had better be the final straw in this sorry saga.

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There was nothing defamatory is the post so I'm confused as to why it got deleted.

Its up to others whether they believe what's posted on here, you can't just remove it because there's nothing official. As I have been proved on many others things I have got a lot right.

''The club has no MD so who is making these decisions ''

Wukkies post should be removed because the "Fact" is Suzanne and Phil are making the decisions

Director of External Affairs - Makes him sound like he's running a Nazi Concentration Camp to me.

By the way things are going, everybody is going to have left the club soon apart from the one person we need rid of the most!

We even managed to get shot of Pattison at one point, only for him to come crawling back seemingly unnoticed...


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The thing is, if this latest debacle in the whole sorry endless saga does happen, I'd imagine they'd be more than a tad annoyed about it. They'd basically become the latest in the long line of people to be shat on from a great height. In that case, if either of them were inclined to break their silence and go on record with their thoughts on the clowns' behaviour, it could well be the lighting of the blue touchpaper that we've been needing.

The problem is that we never quite seem to get a heavyweight figure from the inside who's prepared to go on record and really blow the whole thing wide open. David Allen clearly had some major problems with them, but has never really said a lot. It would be interesting if they seem to have the same hold over Dick Young and Lord Clark.

Dick Young is the most honest bloke at the club, poor bloke doesn't deserve this

Wukkie wrote:
More like Orwellian I think.....whether 1984 or Animal Farm I'm not 100% sure....

anyone good with photoshop can do a gif of AJ/JN as big brother....

Steven is still the director of football and that has been successful challenging Keith on the previous managers on tactics etc.!

Oh wait a minute.........

Dick Young is an absolute gentleman and works very hard without taking a wage. Has the club at heart and very well respected. Exactly the kind of man you want/need on the board.

Lord Clark I must admit I know little about but he comes across as a man with integrity with the club at heart too.

Something is rotten is there.

'On further potential changes, a United spokesman only described the operational board........'

who is this fabled spokesman?

So do I have this right?

Phil king sales and marketing director
Suzanne Kidd Finance Director
Steven Pattinson Director of Football
Andrew Jenkins Chairman
John Nixon Director of External Affairs

And those supporting Lapping
Dick Young Comercial Director
Lord Clarke director
Norman Steele CUOSC

Also David Dent advisory role with no voting power.
Hmmm anyone else see a pattern?

cocaineblues wrote:
So when did this happen and how did he get re-instated - and is his title a fable too?

My understanding is that he stood down as director on the top board and kept his director of football status on the operational board. Another slight of hand trick by the master Nixon

BOYCOTT!

The only thing keeping them (censored's) here are reasonable crowds...

bruntonpete wrote:
Yeah, the detail is AJ and his paid staff JN are marginalising any opposition. Dick Young seems Carlisle through and through ... in the right way .... and we stood near Clark for several decades on WRE.... Decent enough chap, always forward thinking and I guess pro progress. Hhhm, not the sort of directors the 'old board' want basically!

Hey ho, but fret not we've still got AJ and his controlling money, Nixon and Steve. And of course this shows the club is moving forward

Is this message board ran by Carlisle United?

Blustone wrote:
Yeah Deano Is Steve Patt. Strange question like.

Blustone wrote:

Yes their PR department if you don't like it you bog off!

bruntonpete wrote:
Maybe they`ve decided to challenge the goings on and therefore have got some grief off the 2 top dogs, maybe they`re all falling out at the top table, or maybe they just think it`s time to step down..................but it doesn`t read like that............... "positions are in the balance" seems to suggest somebody else is making the decision!!

Can the owners just kick them off the operating board for no reason and with no comeback? And why tell Lord Clarke who the supposed billionaire is then try to move him on? All seems a bit fishy to me.

Dancingbear wrote:
Wonder if he played his Peer of the Realm Card and demanded to know.
Every statement put out raises more questions!

seesaw50 wrote: rotten...aye, perhaps its cause they backed the Lapping deal.

I still firmly believe Nixon is following orders from above him

Rsblue wrote:
PR DEPARTMENT!!??!!

bruntonpete wrote:
Pattison Retention

Northumbrian wrote: That statement would often describe our defensive tactics. Has Nixon been actually the one picking the back 3/4/5 for the last few seasons?!! And now trying to fool us all with further top-level tinkering? How depressing: a home match versus Akinfenwa, a back three from Dancing on Ice, and the three amigos going nowhere

Get the impression Lord Clark's been one of the few prepared to stand up to Nixon and Jenkins and try to talk some sense into them - so it won't come as a surprise when he's dispensed of once his services are no longer required i.e. helping out with the billionaire thing.

Mashie Niblick wrote:
well that shouldnt be a problem then. lets see how many of the 1st home game 6000+ are keen on another arse raping.

Further evidence that the Billionaire takeover is made up.

Why not leave it to new owners to do this........ah of course there isn't any.

The Board, old or new, are all in BP early today! Board meeting or meet the Billionaire session or to bring about this cull??

It's not to meet the billionaire.

cufcdeano wrote:
Not much point in meeting up with somebody who was hardly interested in the first place, and even less interested now!


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Whats it for then Deano or have you signed a confidentiality clause?

I don't know - I'm just stating the obvious. If I had to guess I'd say bringing about the cull is more realistic.