Pressley's Replacement?

When we sack Pressley this season, who do we replace him with?

Is it too early for Skelton?

Played 4, new team, why should he be sacked? doom & gloom get a grip...

Don't feed the troll!!

Played four?

What's Pressley's record since taking the job?

Why?
Because he is crap and always has been
Combined with Holdsworth you could not have a better dream team.

I'll bet any money Gavin Skelton will be next manager

Is he your preferred candidate, Nobbler?

Danny Grainger will be our next manager

It has already been discussed and agreed in principle. His apprenticeship at Workington is intended to give him some level of experience until the position eventually becomes vacant

Oldbolt wrote: Danny Grainger will be our next manager

It has already been discussed and agreed in principle. His apprenticeship at Workington is intended to give him some level of experience until the position eventually becomes vacant

Someone else said similar to this didn't they I believe.

Seems a bit mad to do so as what if Grainger is crap at Workington, don't think that he will be but it is a possibility.

I bet Holdsworth is rubbing his hands together thinking that he can steal Symington off of them as he has been on his radar for a while etc....

Holdsworth's been very quiet recently, making me nervous wondering what he's gonna come up with next

I would like to see Lee Bradbury given a go

Piggie’s changed his tune like the wind!

Whats his league record here? Must be terrible!

Bottom 6 with a bottom 6 budget - you get what you pay for.

Wish I'd put some money on for us to go down at 20/1.

I also think Cheltenham will be bottom 6 and by the sounds of it they could have thrashed us.

Going up to Carlisle on Saturday and for the first time in years I will not be wasting my time and money going to watch them in the vain hope that if I shout louder they will play better!

Fans will be pissed off about it but we sometimes have to accept bad luck in games, as in we have fourteen shots on target to the oppositions one effort and it goes in but we were the better side.

The last three league games though we deserved to lose because we aren't very good and are toothless up front.

This is the worrying part as everyone keeps saying that it is a tinpot league and anyone can beat each other but not our team.

Even if we win on Saturday it would just be papering over the cracks and we haven't even won said game yet.

Remember Bob Stokoe tipping for us for relegation when we came down from division 2

CCU wrote: Anyone who put’s cash on their own club to be relegated should seriously question if they are a supporter IMO...

You bet on what you THINK will happen, not what you WANT to happen, I thought you’d know this Danny. 20/1 was far too big a price.

franksidebottom wrote:

CCU wrote: Anyone who put’s cash on their own club to be relegated should seriously question if they are a supporter IMO...

You bet on what you THINK will happen, not what you WANT to happen, I thought you’d know this Danny. 20/1 was far too big a price.

Exactly. Some even look at it as a compensation package for themselves should the worst happen.

franksidebottom wrote:

CCU wrote: Anyone who put’s cash on their own club to be relegated should seriously question if they are a supporter IMO...

You bet on what you THINK will happen, not what you WANT to happen, I thought you’d know this Danny. 20/1 was far too big a price.

You tell him Frank put your money on us to go down if you want, it’s not like Carlisle are your preferred team anyways so it’s not like betting on your first choice team.

5 wins and 5 draws from the last 20 league games since the start of Feb.
No away wins in that time
3 league defeats in a row
Only 1 of the wins was by more than 1 goal
Only 2 clean sheets in that time (1 against a team already promoted)
9 times we failed to score.
We lost 1-3 at home to the worst Notts County team in history, who were relegated.
We got a slightly lucky 0-0 against the other relegated team.
In that time we have only 23 goals - 6 against Crawley at Brunton Park.
A minus 12 goal difference over those games.
5 away goals in 10 games.
We got a 1 goal win at Cheltenham on August 18th last season - the team was Fryer, Liddle, Parkes, Gerrard, Grainger, Yates, Devitt, Etuhu, Hope, Nadesan, Bennett. How many of the team who started at Cheltenham this season are improvements on that lot?

Anyone who thinks Pressley is doing a decent job has forgotten that he took over a team in the top 4 in January, and couldn't even get it to finish in the top 10.
I can't wait for him to leave - he's another talent-free chancer like Abbott or Kavanagh.

Sadly, the board will replace him with whoever will do the job for the least amount of money.

Oldbolt wrote: Danny Grainger will be our next manager

It has already been discussed and agreed in principle. His apprenticeship at Workington is intended to give him some level of experience until the position eventually becomes vacant

Thats bollocks.

CCU wrote: Anyone who put’s cash on their own club to be relegated should seriously question if they are a supporter IMO...

Was in Atherstone one day, pretty dodgy place in all honesty but I did one of those accumulator bets and he one that let me down for a good whack of cash was Carlisle versus Bournemouth, think it was the cup game where Eddie Howes team were on the up.

Only ever done a handful of those bets but I couldn't bear to bet against us, even though I thought that they would win I put my faith in us.

I was there that day in Atherstone when the home side broke through to the Barrow supporters bit and attacked everyone, women and children included, thought about going to it as we drove past the ground, unaware that the fixture even existed but there was unrest everywhere and Police pulling up anyone so thought sod it as the kids were with me.

Peter Murphy hmmm.

deeksme wrote: 5 wins and 5 draws from the last 20 league games since the start of Feb.
No away wins in that time
3 league defeats in a row
Only 1 of the wins was by more than 1 goal
Only 2 clean sheets in that time (1 against a team already promoted)
9 times we failed to score.
We lost 1-3 at home to the worst Notts County team in history, who were relegated.
We got a slightly lucky 0-0 against the other relegated team.
In that time we have only 23 goals - 6 against Crawley at Brunton Park.
A minus 12 goal difference over those games.
5 away goals in 10 games.
We got a 1 goal win at Cheltenham on August 18th last season - the team was Fryer, Liddle, Parkes, Gerrard, Grainger, Yates, Devitt, Etuhu, Hope, Nadesan, Bennett. How many of the team who started at Cheltenham this season are improvements on that lot?

Anyone who thinks Pressley is doing a decent job has forgotten that he took over a team in the top 4 in January, and couldn't even get it to finish in the top 10.
I can't wait for him to leave - he's another talent-free chancer like Abbott or Kavanagh.

Sadly, the board will replace him with whoever will do the job for the least amount of money.

You've got to give Pressley quite a few more games but I don't think he could have done a worse job if he tried to be honest. That side from 18th August last year looks immense in comparison to the team now. Even with Bennett in it!

Playing four centre forwards in the second half on Saturday reminded of something Roddy Collins did one Tuesday night against Hull City IIRC. Which is never a good thing.

deeksme wrote: 5 wins and 5 draws from the last 20 league games since the start of Feb.
No away wins in that time
3 league defeats in a row
Only 1 of the wins was by more than 1 goal
Only 2 clean sheets in that time (1 against a team already promoted)
9 times we failed to score.
We lost 1-3 at home to the worst Notts County team in history, who were relegated.
We got a slightly lucky 0-0 against the other relegated team.
In that time we have only 23 goals - 6 against Crawley at Brunton Park.
A minus 12 goal difference over those games.
5 away goals in 10 games.
We got a 1 goal win at Cheltenham on August 18th last season - the team was Fryer, Liddle, Parkes, Gerrard, Grainger, Yates, Devitt, Etuhu, Hope, Nadesan, Bennett. How many of the team who started at Cheltenham this season are improvements on that lot?

Anyone who thinks Pressley is doing a decent job has forgotten that he took over a team in the top 4 in January, and couldn't even get it to finish in the top 10.
I can't wait for him to leave - he's another talent-free chancer like Abbott or Kavanagh.

Sadly, the board will replace him with whoever will do the job for the least amount of money.

Christ that is grim.

Any talk of sacking the manager 4 league games into the season is a complete joke imo. Fair enough if we're still sat at 20th in the league at say the start of October. Football fans are so fickle and have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Personally I think this team is a working progress where we just need to give them time to gel and to figure out what makes this team tick. That's exactly what JS done last season, got a few months in and assessed what his teams strengths were and played to them. I remember a lot of people around October time last year calling for JS to be sacked. 2 months later and he was the dogs (censored) and took us on a brilliant run. Give them time, if nothing changes then we'll sort it out.

jakeyblain wrote: Any talk of sacking the manager 4 league games into the season is a complete joke imo. Fair enough if we're still sat at 20th in the league at say the start of October. Football fans are so fickle and have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Personally I think this team is a working progress where we just need to give them time to gel and to figure out what makes this team tick. That's exactly what JS done last season, got a few months in and assessed what his teams strengths were and played to them. I remember a lot of people around October time last year calling for JS to be sacked. 2 months later and he was the dogs (censored) and took us on a brilliant run. Give them time, if nothing changes then we'll sort it out.

Exactly. Not sure of the exact stats but pretty sure results in Pressley’s first 16/17 games were almost identical to Sheridan’s.

I’m not saying he’s doing a good job but I’m prepared to give him a decent chance, especially given the massive squad overhaul in the summer. What’s the point in letting a manager build an almost entirely new team then sacking him after 4 games?

deeksme wrote: 5 wins and 5 draws from the last 20 league games since the start of Feb.
No away wins in that time
3 league defeats in a row
Only 1 of the wins was by more than 1 goal
Only 2 clean sheets in that time (1 against a team already promoted)
9 times we failed to score.
We lost 1-3 at home to the worst Notts County team in history, who were relegated.
We got a slightly lucky 0-0 against the other relegated team.
In that time we have only 23 goals - 6 against Crawley at Brunton Park.
A minus 12 goal difference over those games.
5 away goals in 10 games.
We got a 1 goal win at Cheltenham on August 18th last season - the team was Fryer, Liddle, Parkes, Gerrard, Grainger, Yates, Devitt, Etuhu, Hope, Nadesan, Bennett. How many of the team who started at Cheltenham this season are improvements on that lot?

Anyone who thinks Pressley is doing a decent job has forgotten that he took over a team in the top 4 in January, and couldn't even get it to finish in the top 10.
I can't wait for him to leave - he's another talent-free chancer like Abbott or Kavanagh.

Sadly, the board will replace him with whoever will do the job for the least amount of money.

Worrying stats in anyone’s book but a few slightly misleading points. We weren’t top 4 when Pressley took over, we were 6th.

The team who were “already promoted” who we kept a clean sheet against were the eventual champions who hadn’t lost for months and were 1 win away from winning the league.

Also, since when did it matter that you won a league game by only one goal?

Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results

Came in January, brought in good players in Thomas and O'Hare, took us crashing down the table.

Done the same now. A centre back who played in the championship doesn't know how to defend a corner and bundles his own goalkeeper into the goal. Arguably the best winger in the division doesn't put a single cross in towards the head of a 6 ft 5 striker in 2 games.
When do you pull the trigger? How many more games before we cant make the automatic promotion places? The play-offs? Does he get to recruit in January with his record?

People moan about Sheridan, but we were winning away when he was manager. Now were not

How many more games before we can’t make the automatic promotion places? It’s August man FFS!!!

franksidebottom wrote: How many more games before we can’t make the automatic promotion places? It’s August man FFS!!!

You are making out that he got the job in the summer and that folk are jumping the gun after five games forgetting that he had half of last season as well making a mess of things.

I’m making out that it’s August and folk are asking how many more games before we can’t get promotion!

With regards Pressley, I’m prepared to give him a chance with his own team as opposed to working with someone elses. Really don’t like the modern day culture of sacking your manager every year within football, rarely gets you anywhere.

He'll be given plenty of time I would think unless the form is absolutely calamatous and we lose a few more on the trot.

Sir Alex wouldn't have lasted 6 months at Brunton Park.

Pressley as had 7 months.
What was your favourite part of the Cheltenham game Frank? What particular events on the pitch gave you confidence for the future that we can begin a run of results? Did you see the game?

People would do well to remember that Sheridan had a slow start last season before the team finally clicked.

pacirv wrote: People would do well to remember that Sheridan had a slow start last season before the team finally clicked.

He had better players that we were familiar with and we knew that we had the quality to turn it around.

The majority of the new bunch are unproven that they have it in the first place.

munchymagic wrote:

pacirv wrote: People would do well to remember that Sheridan had a slow start last season before the team finally clicked.

He had better players that we were familiar with and we knew that we had the quality to turn it around.

The majority of the new bunch are unproven that they have it in the first place.

Totally disagree, that’s you speaking with hindsight. We lost 5 straight games at home without scoring against some of the poorest sides in the league, at the time there was hell on on here including a similar thread to this calling for Sheridan to be sacked.

Markovitch wrote: Pressley as had 7 months.
What was your favourite part of the Cheltenham game Frank? What particular events on the pitch gave you confidence for the future that we can begin a run of results? Did you see the game?

I didn’t watch the Cheltenham game Markovitch so cant comment but quite what that has to do with you asking how many more games to go before automatic promotion is out of our reach in August I don’t know.

I was at MK Dons last December and there was absolutely no sign whatsoever of us beginning a run of results, after the match most of us in our group had written the season off after an abject defeat and with us also being knocked out the FA Cup the weekend before. We won 8 out of the next 9 games.

franksidebottom wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Pressley as had 7 months.
What was your favourite part of the Cheltenham game Frank? What particular events on the pitch gave you confidence for the future that we can begin a run of results? Did you see the game?

I didn’t watch the Cheltenham game Markovitch so cant comment but quite what that has to do with you asking how many more games to go before automatic promotion is out of our reach in August I don’t know.

I was at MK Dons last December and there was absolutely no sign whatsoever of us beginning a run of results, after the match most of us in our group had written the season off after an abject defeat and with us also being knocked out the FA Cup the weekend before. We won 8 out of the next 9 games.

Beforehand though they were proven players basically underperforming so you knew or hoped that it would eventually click and could turn a losing run into a winning one.

These players I hope the same will happen with too but I have no confidence in this happening under Pressley.

Markovitch wrote: Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results

Came in January, brought in good players in Thomas and O'Hare, took us crashing down the table.

Done the same now. A centre back who played in the championship doesn't know how to defend a corner and bundles his own goalkeeper into the goal. Arguably the best winger in the division doesn't put a single cross in towards the head of a 6 ft 5 striker in 2 games.
When do you pull the trigger? How many more games before we cant make the automatic promotion places? The play-offs? Does he get to recruit in January with his record?

People moan about Sheridan, but we were winning away when he was manager. Now were not

Marko we were shite befote we had a little run under Sheridan.
And look at his loyalty...

CCU wrote: Sowerby, Yates and Nadesan - The reason we hit form - were far from ‘proven’ players...

Agreed but Sheridan and Curle got the best out of them.

Pressley only got the best out of O'Hare.

Still wasn't enough and we plummeted.

You can feel for unlucky managers but Pressley cannot say that his teams were beaten for any other reason other than that they were second best in the games.

He admits this most of the time to his credit but it reminds me of Kavanagh saying that he didn't know what to do to turn things around.

Theresa May negotiating Brexit had more nous than Pressley will ever have.

munchymagic wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

Markovitch wrote: Pressley as had 7 months.
What was your favourite part of the Cheltenham game Frank? What particular events on the pitch gave you confidence for the future that we can begin a run of results? Did you see the game?

I didn’t watch the Cheltenham game Markovitch so cant comment but quite what that has to do with you asking how many more games to go before automatic promotion is out of our reach in August I don’t know.

I was at MK Dons last December and there was absolutely no sign whatsoever of us beginning a run of results, after the match most of us in our group had written the season off after an abject defeat and with us also being knocked out the FA Cup the weekend before. We won 8 out of the next 9 games.

Beforehand though they were proven players basically underperforming so you knew or hoped that it would eventually click and could turn a losing run into a winning one.

These players I hope the same will happen with too but I have no confidence in this happening under Pressley.

No we didn’t know they would eventually click and turn it around, hence why we wrote the season off that day. They showed no indication whatsoever that they would turn it around. You’re talking with the luxury of hindsight. Just because a player has been decent in the past doesn’t mean they’re going to be decent in the future.

We had an 8 game run over Xmas which totally distorted our season. We were very average before that run and totally average after it.

munchymagic wrote:

CCU wrote: Sowerby, Yates and Nadesan - The reason we hit form - were far from ‘proven’ players...

Agreed but Sheridan and Curle got the best out of them.

Pressley only got the best out of O'Hare.

Still wasn't enough and we plummeted.

You can feel for unlucky managers but Pressley cannot say that his teams were beaten for any other reason other than that they were second best in the games.

He admits this most of the time to his credit but it reminds me of Kavanagh saying that he didn't know what to do to turn things around.

Theresa May negotiating Brexit had more nous than Pressley will ever have.

Theresa May had more nous on approaching Brexit than Boris will ever have too. Should we get rid of him next week too?

chedderbob247 wrote:

munchymagic wrote:

CCU wrote: Sowerby, Yates and Nadesan - The reason we hit form - were far from ‘proven’ players...

Agreed but Sheridan and Curle got the best out of them.

Pressley only got the best out of O'Hare.

Still wasn't enough and we plummeted.

You can feel for unlucky managers but Pressley cannot say that his teams were beaten for any other reason other than that they were second best in the games.

He admits this most of the time to his credit but it reminds me of Kavanagh saying that he didn't know what to do to turn things around.

Theresa May negotiating Brexit had more nous than Pressley will ever have.

Theresa May had more nous on approaching Brexit than Boris will ever have too. Should we get rid of him next week too?

This is where opinions get divided - I think that Boris is doing a grand job.

And neither of them concern me that much as they don't have the power to get Carlisle United relegated.

A couple of friends have said that if we don't pick up any points against Salford then they'll stay away until we start winning.

That's just anecdotal of course, but If that sentiment is widespread then falling gates might force the directors' hand.

Laffy wrote: Piggie’s changed his tune like the wind!

Leave him alone he's a man of his word recall him calling this place "the trust forum" and would never post on here.
As for Pressley 4 games in and calling for his head is just a tad hysterical considering this is his first full season with a squad of his choosing give the fella time to turn it around.

An 8 from 9 game run over Christmas! How long is Christmas in your house? That's 20% of the season! Sheridan was only in the job for 5 months. Pressley has already had over 7 and we are getting worse.

You need to watch the games Frank. Two minutes on a Saturday night won't show you how bad we are. Though I did see Colin Murray has started calling us struggling Carlisle. Maybe that'll spell it out for you